EPT@Cav Just fyi when you go to Day 2 you're required to post when alive. What you thinking about everything?
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@Cav Just fyi when you go to Day 2 you're required to post when alive. What you thinking about everything? | ||
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On May 09 2014 12:25 Holyflare wrote: What do you hope to achieve with a motivational speech? If he is scum he just starts posting and you rethink everything all over again, you have to ask him direct questions about his play in the game otherwise he can just fabricate things. This also let's you slide by without putting in the effort to question him. A Speech is designed to reach out to someone who may feel cornered. It happens a lot in video mafia where someone has no clue what to say and look hella nervous. If they are scum they act a particular way if they are town more likely that act another way (its very vague and not important because its live but still) reacting to a speech can give you a better tell on someones alignment. If they just sit there and cry about how wrong everyone is they're going to get lynched its just not how to play. I have posted questions to him. About what his thought process is about the Vivax situation and he has largely ignored them. I can repost them for him but if hes not motivated to read my questions he can't answer them. If he ignores the speech the lynch him anyways. | ||
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On May 07 2014 22:13 LoneMeow wrote: Night 1 <insert flavor here> Final bote count: Vivax (5): Cavalinho (0): Steveling (1): Koshi (0): Oatsmaster (1): Holyflare, Not boting (2): mderg, Vivax Vivax the Naive Recruit (Vanilla Townie) is lynched. Remember to send your night actions to all hosts. So assuming you're town HF and Steve is red. Who i smost likely to be scum here? (I realize vote count analysis is kinda lame after 1 day but still) I feel like in this type of lynching it might be something more interesting. Not 100% sure where I want to go with this tbh or if its informative but I feel like its hyper unlikely that there wasn't at least one scum in that vote. That would require HF and mderg are both red. Which would be the opposite of what I think now. So I feel like our scum is between those on the lynch block. If we're right about Steve being scum then I think Koshi is like super obvious to be with him not sure if its too obvious though . He might just be really wrong town he is my biggest question mark. Cav could be that lurker scum that sees his partner going down in flames and just tries to go the busing route. Oats Would be the scum mastermind type his attempt to go from scumsteve to me was really odd and then after that tried to say I scumslipped basically a really weak push on me maybe hoping it gained some traction. I realize associative reads are thin for some reason especially in forum mafia but What does everyone else think? How many mafia were on the Vivax lynch? In my world I'm thinking 2. | ||
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On May 09 2014 12:38 Holyflare wrote: Right, why would he feel cornered if he "knew vivax's alignment all along" or "knows that we are scum"? That screams the opposite of being cornered. Being cornered and responding with i don't knows or i can't remember is town. Responding with refusals and absolutes is normally mafia. I agree. Basically I'm trying to get a read on steve more so than just super obviously scummy thing he did at EoD occasionally donkey town do shit like that and I don't want to go to lylo just cause someone was playing odd. He has yet to change my mind and silence will just make me more sure he is mafia. I'm pretty sure HF me and you may just be argueing about which method is best to push on someone scummy but we actually have similar intentions. I also agree where the hell is everyone else? Like discussion please!!! Steve only has 2 bote I think were hitting mafia with him but there is one more, feel free to raise your hand or townie people point them out. | ||
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On May 09 2014 12:51 Holyflare wrote: Kinda happy for thrawn, he got to escape. Some day I shall be freeeee! f that we winning this game HF help me find the scum and glad you stay up. I might be awake when you rise if you're going to bed. If not i'll see ya tomorrow. I'm heading out of work right now. Other people be town please!! ! | ||
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On May 09 2014 13:21 Cavalinho wrote: Hi. Apologies for the afk, got some real life shit going on at the moment. Going to be as active as I can, but don't expect miracles. Let's get to work. I'm not really sure we should vote off Steveling today. Martyrs are usually town more often than not, so I feel like lynching him after he selfvotes like this wouldn't be a great idea. If he's scum, I seriously doubt he would just roll over and die if people started scumreading him. Maybe it's just me. His play hasn't been stellar, so I'm definitely not crossing him off the list, but I think we should look at other people today. If we believe Koshi's rb claim, I think Poofter might be a good lynch. Koshi raised some good points about what Poofter has done this game, and when compared to what he was doing outside of it...It isn't good. I also think Oats might be a good lynch. Steveling and I have both pointed out his opportunism throughout this game thus far, but the rest of his filter at the time seemed pretty town to me. I'm going to pick through what he said thus far and see if he's another viable lynch candidate today. TLDR: I think we should lynch between Steveling/Poofter/Oats. I still think HF is town, and at face value Koshi is town as well. Mderg is slightly townie. Will do more research and post findings ASAP to see where the town stands. To Here: On May 09 2014 14:53 Cavalinho wrote: Koshi, please post a case on Poofter. I'm trying to see what makes him scummy, but I'm looking at his filter and it looks supertown to me. Maybe I just suck, but I really, really want to see your side of things. ??? I mean I'm glad you seem to realize my shit is townie but like why do you want koshi to convince you? Why are you not convincing koshi I'm town. Like I guess you read my filter and were impressed but like this is really odd. I mean what if you don't suck and I'm just town? I don't understand why this is your mindset. ' Also why do you believe that Koshi was RBed? What about it sprung as true to you? | ||
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On May 09 2014 14:14 Cavalinho wrote: @Holyflare why is it that you believe Koshi's claim but you think he's null anyway? @Poofter what makes you so sure that there were two scum on Vivax? Is it associative reads and such or merely PoE? I noticed that you don't have mderg as town but you exclude him from your list of scumreads. Why isn't he scum? @Koshi what are your current reads and why don't you want to lynch Steveling? Also, I just looked through Oats' filter and I want to know his current reads. He says Poof is scum but doesn't back it up with anything. His second page was towny but I want a little more substance than what he has done at the moment. And he's still being opportunistic wtf. I read HF as town I know I'm town and I mentioned it at least wtice that mderg was more townie for me because we had a mindmeld situation on the whole STeve thing. So it was more PoE for me. How many scum do you think voted? | ||
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On May 09 2014 15:32 Steveling wrote: My post wasn't a case? You're alive congradulations. Did town make a mistake not sending you off in your sleep? Why are me HF/Oats scummy? Like by case I think he means point out posts that make us more likely to be scum than town. | ||
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On May 09 2014 15:04 Cavalinho wrote: Actually, I have another question for Poofter: Why are you commenting on what my scumgame would be? I have a bunch of problems with opening this can of worms: A) I have yet to actually roll scum in a forum game. There's 0 meta to work with, and nobody was considering me scum until I had to go afk for the day. Then you start thinking, "oh, he could be scum" and you come up with this asinine explanation for what kind of scum I would be out of nowhere. B) You said you were getting townvibes from me, and then you start thinking I could be scum because...? I don't see a single reason for anyone scumreading me right now (aside from being afk, maybe) but then you draw some asinine conclusion that I would bus my partner based on...? What in the world made you start thinking you could/wanted to lynch me? I feel like the fact that you haven't played scum is what would do it. In a forum scum game if you're with steven adn you see him going down in flames the move to bus him makes a lot of sense as a new to scum player you can use it as credibility right there. ^^this answers both a and b. I don't feel like not having meta doesn't matter. I feel like a new to scum player is more likely to do that than try to help their partner. I only starting reading you as scum for just saying that you thought steve was mafia. seemed bussy. I did have town vibes from you they're just vibes they change if you vibe mafia that doesn't look good for you. | ||
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On May 09 2014 17:22 mderg wrote: that´s because you read him correctly without giving proper reasons and still voted him. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^This This is why. Read this steve nad respond. This is the logic why people think you're scummy. | ||
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On May 09 2014 17:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Man poof keeps flipping from saying things from the perspective that steve is town to steve is scum. Its weird shit. mderg, why am I scummy for making a case on a townie and hammering a townie. It feels like you are looking too hard for reasons to avoid calling me town at this point. I don't know the world that steve is actually in so I want to look at it from both worlds. Do you think that flipping like that is more mafia or town inclined? Like you say its weird... does weird=scummy. | ||
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On May 09 2014 18:16 Koshi wrote: @poofter Why is your vote not on Steve? Everything you say about other people is in correlation with Steve being mafia. Except when you talk about Steve then he is 50% town 50% scum. My actually % is much higher that he mafia than town probably 85% mafia and 15% town. The reason I'm not voting is because I want to engage others in conversation and see where they are at and talk about a lynch before it happens. If people don't give their opinions and talk about a lynch then it happens its harder to garner information but if you can get people's viewpoints and the like you gain MUCH MUCH MUCH more information. If we instantly voted steve it doesn't give us a whole lot to go on no matter what his alignment is. We need people to talk about their reads and interact with others and project the mindset to figure this out. If this was a normal type of lynch system my vote would have been on steve the whole time because I think he is mafia and I know that no matter what we have 48 hours to talk about this and decide whats best for town. I want to learn things from a vote. In this setup I could vote go to sleep and wakeup to a lynch that happened over night. | ||
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On May 09 2014 18:02 Steveling wrote: Don't you guys find it weird how they appear to shift their attention from me? Multiple people said I was 100% lynch for this day, so where are their votes? I point you to my post where gaining information from interacting with people gets us a lot more as town than just instantly lynching. If you were a red check or something then thats different but this is just a reads lynch so no one should be 100% sure. I think I've been pushing on you the longest and I admit I'm only like 85%. Steve are you going to play the game? Like you are acting like you've never played mafia before. Its silly. What about me is the most scummy thing? I'm one of your scum suspects. Do you think HF or me is more likely to be town since we both think you're mafia but he has had your vote on you for several hours? | ||
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On May 09 2014 18:32 Koshi wrote: What are you looking for with these questions? Why would I fakeclaim RB? If you fakeclaim that you got RB and you're scum and someone else gets RBd later in the game they might think "hey that happened to me guess I better believe it happened to that other guy the night before" Also its more that he Instantly believed you. I feel like town would be more skeptical of such a claim. Like its honestly more alignment indicative that he believes you were RBd than you saying you were Rbd. That make sense? The voting question is a good question to ask because it makes people think about how votes went down and where they read people. If I read HF and mderg as town then I think 2 scum voted and the lynch makes more sense then I just need to decide as scum when is the most likely time I'd vote on a ML day 1. Also it makes people read everyone in the game in a small way as they have to use PoE to figure out the number of scum that voted. Its not something super strong to go off but the whole conversation at that point was about Steve so spuring other forms of discussion is good for town it makes it hard for scum when they have to talk about more than just one subject and can't just post something like every 2 hours like "Steve is scum, steve is town" they have to be thinking about multiple lines of attack and keeping their story straight on multiple fronts where as town you're just okay talking abotu whatever as long as it helps you find mafia. | ||
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On May 09 2014 18:45 Koshi wrote: Give me the tldr from this post you made. What did you try to accomplish here? TLDR: A town got misslynched, who is responsible? Where would I want my name on this list if I was mafia? Also possible scum teams with Steve. (I don't think the post is that long so not sure why you need a TLDR. Do you just hate everything I do this game I mean jesus dude this is like the 20th post that you have openly criticized explain why what I'm doing is mafia driven whats my agenda here? I even admit in the post that I'm not sure where this is going i just want to get my thoughts out there.) | ||
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On May 09 2014 19:05 Koshi wrote: 1) So scum tends to RB themselves when there is a possible Cop, Parity cop and doc in the game. 2) Ok. So a town got misslynched, you want to see where scum would put there vote and you start with assuming that everybody that is not on Vivax is town. Why is mderg town in that post? They could RB anyone or they could know there isn't a RB in the game... the important part of the quest was WHY HE BELIEVED YOU SO INSTANTLY. Maybe I'm just a suspicious guy but I don't believe shit like that I'd definitely say it as mafia for a number of reasons. mderg felt townie to me because we had the same thoughts abuot steveling at the same time. I know my alignment so someone thinking like me is likely to be aligned with me/looking for the same things/ hunting scum. I've explained this before you don't seem to be reading my answers or you're just skewing them to your own agenda of calling me scummy. | ||
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On May 09 2014 19:34 Steveling wrote: It's 2 between HF/oats/poofter. Fact I'm still alive speaks volumes. This is the same post you made earlier. Bring some content to the game. Say why these are your reads and say something besides "I'm still alive" or maybe explain this point better. | ||
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On May 09 2014 19:13 Koshi wrote: feigning activity. Show me a post where you have explained somebody his mafia mindset. How is that feigning activity? Look through my filter I'd say 1/4th of my filter is being accused by you for every post I make and you not responding to my posts but just pointing out why each one is scummy instead of casing me for having scummy posts. You just are constantly prodding me its really weird. I have the posts where I gave a mafia mindset on Cav being with Steve. The basis of my Steve read is why its a mafia mindset. You probably said something in both posts were scummy so I'm sure you read them feel free to look them up yourself if you're too lazy I'll look them up after I sleep  | ||
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On May 09 2014 19:39 Oatsmaster wrote: Although holyflare not dying is really weird and actually points to steve being town. How so? Like what part of HF not dying makes steve town? Also what do you make on Koshi's posts against me. Do you think that he is right? Am I being scummy? | ||
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