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Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:35 GMT
#3714
On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?


As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:36 GMT
#3717
On April 08 2014 05:32 Killing wrote:
If people have the same win cond as me, I want to work with them.
If they don't, then I want to lynch them.

Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



I'm pretty good with that list except:

1. I'm not town on austin but I don't have the info that you claim to have.
2. I'm not town on snb, I don't really have a good read on him. I can't even recall a lot of what he has said, hasn't really stuck out.
3. Same with WoS but I'm leaning town on him.
4. I'm not town on HF but the going full crazy over blue green reads townie to me imo. If I was mafia, I wouldn't argue about color for 3 pages.
5. Paperscraps could be colored as green. I've probably spoken to him the most during the pm phase.

Rest is coool


And I should be in blazing green colors.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:42 GMT
#3721
On April 08 2014 05:39 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:35 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:32 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:28 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 05:22 austinmcc wrote:
Can I stop spamming about this and......Oats and Killing and someone read this and give thoughts? Oats, Killing, VA!


My thoughts: Who gives a shit about the color of my role.
No, different thoughts.

If you don't think anyone should give a shit about the color of a role, then do Holyflare's thoughts and actions make sense to you as coming from a townie? Do they make sense as coming from a scum? Do they make sense as scum slipping and trying to cover up that slip? Do they just not make sense period?


As posted above, I think it's probably coming from a townie POV. As scum, it's probably a bad idea to argue over semantics and make yourself look bad. I think there's probably a reasoning over the difference in coloring the role but not one that is currently visible to the town nor the one that HF is proposing. It's townie to trying and figure it out though. If he was mafia, anyone that wins with town is his enemy anyways so he probably wouldn't care much. The only way it would be a good play as mafia is if he's trying to drum up paranoia or some shit but it doesn't make any sense.

He didn't bring that up to talk about it. He was forced to because what he says doesn't add up.
This is the "It's scummy to do scummy things as scum, so scum wouldn't do scummy things" argument.

It is usually a mafia argument, and often mafia defending mafia


Dude, what are you even saying? Do you think Greymist used a bunch of different colors cause he felt like making the game prettier?

If your answer is yes, then enjoy your stay in lala land
If not, there's a reasoning. I think HF argument on the blue vs green was terrible. Why does HF care if he's mafia? You even called it a slip. If HF is mafia, how does he know who is 3p and who is town. He doesn't even have the info.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 20:56 GMT
#3732
On April 08 2014 05:47 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum

break down the scenario for me

like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head.

(1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town.

(2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts.

(3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying
  • I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
  • I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P


(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood.

The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had.


Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip.


Do you have any theories over the color difference?
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 07 2014 22:38 GMT
#3766
Who's the town that I should be pming to talk about town stuff?
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 00:22 GMT
#3788
##But the Future Refused to change: LSB
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 00:31 GMT
#3792
On April 08 2014 09:29 austinmcc wrote:
That thing was part of VA's 3P role in Aperture 2

Show nested quote +
(+3 Fate): Once per game, you may target a player by typing in the thread ##But the future refused to change: Player Name Target player will stay in thread for day or night after death and not flip until then (thread is notified of death). That player may not vote or action.


Either a different role here OR someone is getting kilt OR some serious shennanies are occurring.


That's not what mine does.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 00:47 GMT
#3796
On April 08 2014 09:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 09:22 Killing wrote:
##But the Future Refused to change: LSB

Oo more shennaies.


My ability was really good for town. I won't disclose everything it does but the chaos counter will now be reduced to 0 as a result. The rest I will not say. In the event I die, the people that I consider my highest of town know what happens to LSB.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 00:54 GMT
#3802
If you bombed me like an idiot, paperscraps and robik have all my info.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 00:56 GMT
#3805
On April 08 2014 09:55 Holyflare wrote:
oats is exploding though, so is ve


Well in that case, good shit
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 00:57 GMT
#3809
On April 08 2014 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
you want a bomb on your head killing?


Please sir no sir
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 00:59 GMT
#3812
On April 08 2014 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
you have 2 minutes to convince me not to


Besides the fact that I just activated a power that reduces chaos counter to 0 which basically confirms me as town?
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 01:01 GMT
#3818
On April 08 2014 09:59 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 09:59 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
you have 2 minutes to convince me not to


Besides the fact that I just activated a power that reduces chaos counter to 0 which basically confirms me as town?


i dunno what chaos counter does, why can't town like chaos?


"Forces town to make difficult decision". I prefer easy decisions.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 01:12 GMT
#3851
Chaos counter: 0

Gimme dat blazing green read now
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 01:13 GMT
#3855
On April 08 2014 10:12 geript wrote:
Hey Keirathi I want to sheep you all game. Who do you trust the least right now?


ROFL keirathi is dead unless you rezed him.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 01:16 GMT
#3863
On April 08 2014 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Just a heads up.

I am immune to NK's tonight. I cannot be roleblocked with this item I was given too. Tomorrow will be cell mafia, every person is split into groups of 3 people and each group contains 1 mafia.

GL scum. You lose.


HOLY SHIT THAT'S HILARIOUS.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 01:17 GMT
#3867
On April 08 2014 10:17 Koshi wrote:
Stupid syllo v2 nuke killed yamato.
WoW I am mildly sad even 2 scummers died. Like... I also forgot about nuke.... but 2-2???
If there are 7 scummers in start this is ridiculous. Too many 3p as well that dont interfefe wigh scum wincon??? Some1 should count.

Dnu why I am still awake.


Are you infected with the blazinghand item?
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 01:39 GMT
#3938
On April 08 2014 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
Paraphrasing:


Show nested quote +
Congratulations! You have completed the trial and have averted Catastrophe! Your prize? Something Catastrophic of course!

You have received a Bomb of Obliterating Mean Baddies (BOMB), you can use this on any person in the game at any time to kill that person regardless of protection.


Just curious, did this coincide when I used my The future blah blah: LSB?
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 01:42 GMT
#3943
On April 08 2014 10:40 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:39 Killing wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
Paraphrasing:


Congratulations! You have completed the trial and have averted Catastrophe! Your prize? Something Catastrophic of course!

You have received a Bomb of Obliterating Mean Baddies (BOMB), you can use this on any person in the game at any time to kill that person regardless of protection.


Just curious, did this coincide when I used my The future blah blah: LSB?

who knows?


I mean, I assume you probably know.
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
April 08 2014 16:45 GMT
#4186
On April 09 2014 01:25 sandroba wrote:
And btw do you happen to be a dragon?


Why are you looking for a dragon?
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