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On April 10 2014 11:37 Oatsmaster wrote: Dont know what you are asking. Dont care. we lynch jat today and va/geript/ve tmr Keep on doing what you are doing please. I don't even have to defend myself, lol. Although it is pretty sad that you guys are getting rolled this hard. I will never be able to achieve my wincon this way.
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On April 10 2014 18:16 Palmar wrote: So how do we tell the bad from the scum. Three people are guilty of serious stupidity, who among them is mafia and who is town?
Geript is adamant about being obnoxious. Between talking in code, calling me mafia for no particular reason, and in general refusing to co-operate with people he knows for a fact are town.
VE checked me. Are you fucking serious? That's the dumbest goddamn check anyone could ever have made. Both my role and my alignment were readibly available in the thread. This is like the easiest check anyone could ever have made.
Oats shot a confirmed townie for no good reason and didn't ask for my permission.
Someone want to fill me in? You see all this and want to lynch me? I think you can add yourself to the list.
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Oats basically claimed scum and is the only reasonable and right lynch here for town.
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On April 10 2014 17:49 Oatsmaster wrote:I lied about nothing. I can prove it. You have been caught lying and can't prove shit buddy.
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Oats isn't even a policy lynch. He is blatantly obvious mafia.
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Koshi, Sandroba and Dandel were/are obviously town even in thread geript, trust me I have no reason to lie. There is nothing to go on for Amiko since he (understandably as survivor) doesn't really play the game. Hopeless, Wave, HF, S&B seem to have been cleared in pm land and I am exactly as in the dark about the reasons for that as you are.
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On April 10 2014 18:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 18:41 justanothertownie wrote: Oats isn't even a policy lynch. He is blatantly obvious mafia. Well certain people have called him town all game long... Then certain people played bad and should feel bad. At least if they did so after day1.
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On April 10 2014 19:06 Palmar wrote:The problem I have with lynching Oats is that I believe his claim. Don't get me wrong, I want him to die. He lied about his roleclaim to me. However the whole thing about him figuring out WoS was in orthanc and killing WoS because of that seems overly complicated for Oats to have thought of it on the spot to get an excuse to kill WoS. I don't think scumOats would believe for a second he could get away with it. There are more things at work here. Show nested quote +On April 10 2014 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote: Ima fuxkimg wizard!! Sorry palmar I lied about the pgo shit. My actual role is dumbledorf amd j have a 1 shot power that tells me all the night actions that someone takes. So jat. He killed keir correct. But he also roleblocked foolishness. Now how does he do that as sk? He doesnt. He scum. Also n2 he went to koshi and roleblocked koshi. N3, he went to dandel and roleblocked wave.
scummy scum scum. ##vote jat If Oats is telling the truth, who do you think JAT is? I wonder who would roleblock someone by putting him in orthanc So my current suggestion is that we make Oats take poison. JAT has already claimed anti-town afaik (sorry if I'm wrong on this, not really reading the thread). So we need to kill JAT anyway. If JAT flips what I'm expecting him to flip, we should consider giving Oats antidote. It's important that JAT's flip matches Oats' description of his night actions. If not? We let Oats die. If Oats lies about taking the poison and somehow stays alive, we just lynch him the next day. Oats, I am expecting you to go along with this plan. I will be so mad if you put your own stupid agenda in front of town again. You're taking the goddamn poison and you will like it. It's a punishment for your blatant stupidity in shooting WoS. You really should start reading the thread now that pm land is over. WoS alreay said that what oats claims I have done is literally impossible. You can also ask geript - he knows that too. Are you calling them both liars? Do you honestly think I could kill someone N1 AND rb a different person? That I roleblocked people who weren't roleblocked?
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You are adorable. You said I killed Keir. How many times are you going to change your story? Anyways - I really doubt that anyone believes you here so you are at least right about the waste of time.
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I think oats is just pissed that I don't help his scumteam to be honest.
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On April 10 2014 20:01 Palmar wrote:I still think this makes JAT saruman What exactly makes me saruman? That oats repeatedly lied about what I did? Or that 3 people by now confirmed that I am telling the truth? If I am claiming anti-town (your choice of words - i would rather call it anti-sandroba) then what reason is there for me to lie about the name of my role? Exactly, there is no reason.
On April 10 2014 20:45 Palmar wrote: I still don't understand why scumOats would claim the kill on WoS.
He didn't have to do anything in the thread right? Before you have the next great idea regarding who should be lynched try and read the thread. Thanks.
On April 10 2014 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Maybe jat has sick dodges. Why woukd I fakeclaim easily confirmable stuff for no reason?? Best defense ever.
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And you still did it. Grats.
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On April 11 2014 02:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Fuck guys just think it through. Ok scumoats is under some pressure, starts out attacking JAT, WOAH SHIT CLAIMS A WHOLE LOTTA SHIT FOR NO FUCKING REASON. Makes sense? Nope. Now get off me and onto Jat.
LOL, you are really doing your best to get lynched. I respect that - this game went south for everyone not town when the pms were allowed.
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As an important member of town I hereby command you to keep checking people.
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On April 11 2014 11:25 IAmRobik wrote: I'd lynch Amiko over JAT
On April 11 2014 13:15 geript wrote:This is a very good point. JAT has shown that he's willing to work with town and has abilities that are useful to us. If the second leader does get lynched Amiko is a more preferential lynch that JAT IMO. <3 We can still win together - it is not impossible. Just sayin. There might even be a situation where it would be benefitial for town to let me win. I will elaborate on that should we get that far. And no it doesn't require me to do anything anti town before.
On April 11 2014 19:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2014 18:58 geript wrote:On April 11 2014 18:54 Palmar wrote: I want JAT to be second, that's all that matters. If there are specific reasons why you think he's scum instead of Amiko I'd love to hear them. Voting patterns seem to indicate Amiko as more likely to be scum but I honestly haven't read a word in JAT's filter. He claimed scum. or 3p. I don't really care. He's not town, and I don't think Oats is unlynchable anyway. If Oats somehow is, we at least kill anti-town. Why the hell do you hate me that much? No, I definitely did not claim scum. My play makes NO SENSE AT ALL as scum. If oats is really unlynchable I will gladly shoot him if town wants me too. I won't do it if you put me in second place though. Why are you so lazy, Palmar? You aren't reading the thread. You don't care about finding scum and rather lynch me... Why? It is pretty certain you are town but your pm deeds shouldn't excuse you guys from playing the game. If you don't think that oats is the last scum I should definitely not be the second wagon.
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I gave up on winning on my own quite a while ago btw. as is obvious by the way I acted the last days/nights.
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On April 11 2014 20:20 geript wrote: He has a lot of odd flip flops on LSB, IamP and syllogism. Even if Oats is scum and 1 of JAT/Amiko is scum I still think there's at least a sixth. Idk, maybe all the 3P claims are com scum and there's 7 who knows. Talking about me here? I did not flip flop on LSB ever. I even pushed for his lynch. I flipped my opinion on the other 2 that is correct. I didn't want to lynch them day1 (like marv btw.) and changed my opinion afterwards. In Syllos case even before the redcheck came out.
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On April 12 2014 02:39 Amiko wrote: You and kita both also claimed to be immune to nightkills. That's also why I figured you both must be 3p/scum - why claim you are immune if you could soak bullets instead? I mean, I guess the obvious answer (given kita's flip) is to avoid getting shot at night.
On April 12 2014 03:40 Amiko wrote: My role feels pretty boring. I mean the random item swap might be interesting but sort of mean. Maybe I would end up with some powerful item? But like I said, even if I got some item, I am dis-incentivized to use it.
I really don't know what syllo was trying to do. I feel like as scum he should have wanted to ally with me, not try to paint me as scum. If I get lynched I flip 3p without any kp, so it just makes him look bad. I guess maybe he could have used this argument to say he must not be scum because why would he lie, and someone else must have also visited whoever it was he claimed, but eh. It is possible someone has a win condition of killing me (since that kind of role seems popular in this game). I guess he could have been trying to keep the lynch off someone else that day?
If you want I can try to visit you and steal an item to feel more confirmed :3c I'd be willing to give it back afterward. If I get roleblocked by scum, then whatever, it would uses up a roleblock to prevent nothing important.
On April 12 2014 09:59 Amiko wrote: 30 secs moving to JAT Does this really look like survivor play to ANYONE? He tries to get information about the people who cannot be nightkilled, he has a pretty unbelievable role and he is the only one fast enough to start a switch onto me? Smells like he KNEW oats would not be lynched. If he was a survivor why would he care about securing a lynch on me that late in the day?
On April 12 2014 03:02 strongandbig wrote: here's one thing, as long as jat is alive and trying to kill sandroba, we have to keep roleblocking him every night. i'd take a scum lynch first, but that in itself is a good enough reason to have jat be the backup lynch if oats is actually lynchproof.
On April 12 2014 10:16 IAmRobik wrote: Someone shoot that scumbag I can do that if you don't rb me. No, I won't shoot Sandro because you guys made it pretty clear that he won't be killed and I believe you.
On April 12 2014 14:53 Oatsmaster wrote: Oooo I got a gun. who should I shoot guys? ahahaha. Inb4 he "proves" his townieness by shooting a townie/3p tonight. lol
On April 13 2014 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Dude no flips tonight and changed rad counter. I only have 2 1 shots. RIGHT GUYS? Yes, but how would we know that it wasn't one of your teammates who did the janitor thing? Ridiculous.
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On April 13 2014 03:56 austinmcc wrote: geript, question.
If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day.
Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities. If scum used that on a townie oats... Why did oats say he could not be lynched?
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Dandel, I don't know how many times I told you that already but I am not a Serial Killer. I am an Assassin with multiple targets (at the start). It is perfectly possible that I and town both win if Sandroba dies. I see your concern with my KP though if you are a Survivor.
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