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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 14 2014 19:23 GMT
#361
DP hasn't confirmed yet.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 14 2014 19:33 GMT
#362
The countries rolled are random, right?
Imaginary
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 19:40:34
May 14 2014 19:39 GMT
#363
On May 15 2014 04:33 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
The countries rolled are random, right?


Yep

If you're new, you can read up on some strategy here when you roll your country:
http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/resources/strategy.htm
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 14 2014 19:40 GMT
#364
Good. I hope RNG will shine on me.
Imaginary
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 14 2014 19:41 GMT
#365
Austria incoming
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 14 2014 19:42 GMT
#366
I'm new, but I'm just gonna wing it.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
May 14 2014 20:03 GMT
#367
I say Italy
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 14 2014 20:35 GMT
#368
I guess it's early morning for DP. Soon he might wake up.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 14 2014 20:35 GMT
#369
He lives in Asia then?
Imaginary
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 14 2014 20:38 GMT
#370
DarthPunk Australia. May 14 2014 09:37. Posts 5329
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 14 2014 20:40 GMT
#371
I feel like an idiot.
Imaginary
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 14 2014 20:45 GMT
#372
Worry not. His last post was a couple of pages ago
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 14 2014 22:44 GMT
#373
On May 14 2014 16:15 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 15:51 JieXian wrote:
I convinced England that we were allies after Italy sowed even more ideas that Germany can't be trusted and changed my moves to a defensive one, like how Italy urged me to. However, after thinking for more than 30 minutes (it's my first game after all and I'm a newb), 5 minutes before the deadline, I changed my moves and committed to the sealion and screwed England over really badly after deciding that Italy was being a manipulative asshole

I dodged a bullet there.



I was being a manipulative asshole? When? I wasn't trying to find out how committed you were to Germany. If you had actually cooperated with Germany against England, things would have been very different this game.

On May 14 2014 16:25 Xatalos wrote:
JieXian: I severely miscalculated with Italy. On the first day I thought we (me/Italy) were allies, while in truth he was allied with Russia, and suggested that he should move to Piedmont and threaten you from there, and apparently he used that to make you distrust me. Later on I realized that Italy's diplomacy and actions had been clearly anti-German, but it was pretty much too late at that point. He had already managed to turn you against me and committed to helping Russia instead. I should have seen it coming earlier and decided my diplomatic aims differently. Oh well.


I actually wasn't clearly anti-German. My discussions with France were merely to get a feel for the northern diplomacy situation. Germany can be extremely flexible first year, so I was just using the Piedmont talk as a discussion point for France. Its true that by sowing distrust it could compromise your alliance, but honestly there isn't anything France can do with it directly (no possible stabs as with the southern countries). I discussed it with France more to build trust with him than to actually undermine you.

I didn't really have anti-German feelings until the failed Sealion. Had France gone through with supporting you to NTH, I would still have considered joining you against France if France committed too many troops to the north. That didn't happen though, so I just went along with France and decided you were too weak to be worth keeping as an ally. I was open to allying with you until your failed Sealion. Like I said in my previous post, I really think that failing the Sealion puts you way behind. Unlike doing your standard non-committal moves, committing to a Sealion is extremely high risk, high reward play for Germany. Yes you still have 2 builds, but your builds become extremely awkward for Russia/France and leave you in a horrible position to go on England. That is what makes your negotiating position more difficult. Failing to get into NTH kills off your ability to go after England, which forces everyone else to recalculate their diplomatic strategy.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 22:56:01
May 14 2014 22:55 GMT
#374
Also: I'm obviously not playing in this one, but if anyone has questions or wants to bounce ideas/talk strategy, let me know and I'm available. I think it would be nice if we could build up a solid group of experienced players so that games are not as brutally lopsided like the last one.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 14 2014 23:02 GMT
#375
If you think that was lopsided, you should check out the first game :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-14 23:50:37
May 14 2014 23:45 GMT
#376
Ok so where is DP?

I understand he is in austrailia but what is he doing
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
May 14 2014 23:46 GMT
#377
On May 15 2014 08:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Ok so where is DP?

This.
Imaginary
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 14 2014 23:58 GMT
#378
Probably he's doing something like this:

"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
May 15 2014 00:34 GMT
#379
On May 15 2014 08:02 Xatalos wrote:
If you think that was lopsided, you should check out the first game :D

Oh yes Hapa showed me. England and Russia's Spring 1901 moves were o_O.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
May 15 2014 00:36 GMT
#380
Fall 1901 moves were more fun
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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