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On March 28 2014 10:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2014 10:10 marvellosity wrote:
you need to let your prplhz-hatred go bubba You know, also funnily enough the second quote is true.  gumshoe i don't see the point of you asking what you are. Why are you doing it? I just explained my thought process fully. Yes, i think marv as mafia, would get mad at Palmar in that situation and lynch him.
I am asking that question because I think your shit throwing on the towniest person in thread because you feel the need to do something drastic. And I think your doing that because your scum : D
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On March 28 2014 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
rayn's not shit-throwing at me, gumshoe.
and if he were mafia, he would have absolutely nothing to gain from throwing poop at me. In fact throwing shit at me is a lose-lose situation for mafia.
I do think hes mafia though / :
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On March 28 2014 10:32 marvellosity wrote:
rayn's not shit-throwing at me, gumshoe.
and if he were mafia, he would have absolutely nothing to gain from throwing poop at me. In fact throwing shit at me is a lose-lose situation for mafia.
ALSO DONT YOU DARE CALM ME DOWN. Last time people calmed me down, I was going after scum, your gonna listen to my rants and like it!
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On March 28 2014 10:34 marvellosity wrote:
Can you give me a better reason other than "rayn is doing something no mafia would ever do in this situation"? because that's not a very convincing one as reasons go
I has my reasons : P
But I'm gonna pull a marv and air them tommorow, you can guess till the.
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On March 28 2014 10:37 marvellosity wrote:
I need to hear them before night ends in case the doctor is a moron. I have died N1 more times than I care to mention with medics in the game.
Alright, within the next 12 hours XD but its late here now so moop : P
As for the doctor, yeah, probs gonna be a wifom hero.
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On March 28 2014 10:40 marvellosity wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, rayn is totally solved as a player to me and I haven't got his alignment wrong in a very long time spanning a great deal of games. And I'm still not digging him as mafia. So yeah. That's not to say I cannot be wrong, but you're gonna have to sell it pretty good.
I'll probally make a case on him, itll be bad, and then later on you'll realize I was wright with the wrong reasons, then you just make a better one and well lynch him : D ez pz.
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On March 28 2014 10:41 marvellosity wrote:
it is not late in Canada :p
but yes, that's fine :>
9:42 mister nsa.
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Man, I need to write this case but I'm sooooo lazy T_T Rayn, write it for me?
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Yeah, I'll vote phagga, to be honest the Rayn read was far fetched / : it was based of the idea that the question palmar asked rayn at the start could only strengthen rayns position, and how rayn defended Palmer for quite a while until shifting abruptly on him and then placed his vote on prplz to exempt himself from playing or voting his scum buddy / : An act that supports lazy play is usually scummy, but then again why be so transparent in support of his buddy if things are going so bad for him?
Rayn, in regard to my accusation against you bieng what I think gumshoe would do(like in the last pyp we played), let me point out just how different this scenario is. In that game I had a clear agenda, people were attacking my scum buddy and I needed to do something drastic to look productive and save him. Scum shoe only does what gumshoe would do if what gumshoe would do lines up with what scumshoe wants to do / : this game, at the time of my read on you, virtually no one thought I was scum and I had no one to protect. I could take my pick of phagga, thrawn or prplz, and then take it from there. Theres was just no reason at the time to build up towns expectations of me with a big accusation. The only reason I accused you was because I had genuine doubts, doubts that mostly stem from my growing suspicion that the easy mark is almost never scum T_T(Perhaps thats merely a personal issue).
At the moment, despite my paranoia I dont think the reasons mentioned at the start of this post are fair grounds to go after you when there are players clearly not doing as much for town / : if your town (as is likely) I apologize for an ill advised accusation, if your actually scum, I guess I'll have words with you again when the situation is more dire : P
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On March 30 2014 07:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
screw you even if i go afk for 24h i am more helpful to the town than 80% of the players.
that's just bs gumshoe.
I said as much 0_0
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On March 30 2014 07:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you show me one post where i have defended Palmar?
I dont think your scum, but I am telling the truth, you really wanna walk down this road?
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On March 30 2014 07:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
No i am curious because i have never ever defended Palmar in this game.
So, my question to you is:
I don't understand why do you assume Palmar should assume what i am thinking and why i ask what i do. How do you suggest town!Palmar should read me if he is not "allowed" to figure out my motives behind my posts? Or do you think it's reasonable to assume Palmar should have realized what i was after? Did you know what i expected town!gumshoe to answer when i asked you my question?
Like the same thing as my question to you:
"A variety of answers are null, but there is a possibility of scummy one."
Why did you figure that out from my question but not from Palmar's?
Do you think gumshoe is mafia?
Also why don't you understand Palmar's post, it's pretty clear?
Let me make myself Palmar for a second:
"I don't get why you are asking gumshoe that shit. I can't think of a reason but maybe there is one. Let's see if there is a reason or not. Otherwise rayn is probably mafia. Okay he told me the reason, hmm.. seems reasonable, no need to pursue this further." Everything after that is explaining the motivation behind the original question.
Now why is this not an acceptable scenario given the posts i quoted? I mean of course it's possible Palmar was just lazy scum who was not thinking at all and asked useless shit but is it more likely?
I can't tell based on these relevant posts so i consider this a null-tell. So if you have some awesome evidence i have missed which proves Palmar was just making shit up for no reason please elaborate.
Your case on Palmar is reaching, your case on me is pure shit. You are either insane or mafia and discussing it with you does not help. Is there anything else?
(robik didn't lie, your case on me was bad and invalid, case on Palmar was bad). That's not scummy. I simply refused to contribute more until i could gain more info on the events that were going on, which i think i clearly expressed.
You then turn on him (around when marv jumps on palm), but always include a bit of doubt in your read of him.
I think game is kinda easy because i don't really see anyone being mafia except for thrawn/Palmar/prplhz.
Inclusion of other scum reads to buffer the one on palmer.
gumshoe - obviously town for the Palmar argument
robik - pretty obviously town
Holyflare - insane but most likely town
marvellosity - likely town, a lot depends on his play later on but nothing seems scummy to me
phagga - not sticking his neck out but atm i ahve no problem with him because he is on the right case
Palmar - i don't know what he is doing. could be mafia
prplhz - i have absolutely no idea what he is doing. likely mafia
thrawn2112 - mafia as per my case
Again, a doubtful scum read on him, supplemented by preferred lynches (thrawn prp)
Thats generally how scum like to handle thier sinking buddies, they present themselves as willing to lynch them from a reasonable point in the day, but are always prepared to vote for an actual townie.
And of course then the prp vote, which conveniently removed you from the proceedings / :
There, you made me make the case I didnt want to make / : happy?
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On March 30 2014 07:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i mean noone was like "gumshoe wow, your case on Palmar is so good that totally proves him mafia".
noone is like "wow gumshoe you are most likely town because you made a good case on Palmar which we all followed"
noone is like "wow rayn you are so scum because you argued against gumshoe's really good case on Palmar at the start of D1".
He is perfectly capable of pointing out "shit logic" on his own (which couldn't have been that shit seeing as I was right) yet you felt pressured to do it for him. Let me ask you ,what is the result of pointing out the shit logic of an accusation on someones behalf without even calling the accuser scum, that person is defended. You are defending him. End of story. If you dont want to called out for it, shut your mouth when two people are having a conversation. Otherwise we have to assume you have an agenda, as I have.
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On March 30 2014 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay i am starting to be annoying, so i'll go to sleep.
But gumshoe, defending someone and calling out bad logic are two different thigns. I was not doing the former, ever.
This is the exact kind of distinction scum loves to make fyi / : makes it much harder to pin them down.
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On March 30 2014 08:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
who is scum?
Not Marv, Holy, Rayn(probally) or me.
If your actually town, then its an easy answer from there, just gotta choose between prp or phagga / :
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On March 30 2014 08:34 thrawn2112 wrote:
i was replying to phagga
Sorry ) :
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On March 30 2014 08:39 phagga wrote:
@gumshoe
Why am I scum?
Honestly it's just a process of elimination lynch / : I'm not really considering holy or marv at all and my Rayn read is pretty out there( most likely wrong as well). Moving past the seemingly obvius townies (who are likely to get shot and should therefore not be lynch targets) I actually feel pretty good about prp(no tremendously good reasons as to why, I just kinda do going by his general play). That leaves you and thrawn, so long as one of you is lynched today, I really dont care / : and I'm too lazy to argue why town should choose chocolate over vannila, so thats pretty much where I'm at concerning todays lynch.
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On March 30 2014 08:49 thrawn2112 wrote:
gumshoe if you are town you should care, even if it's only for the sake of not setting yourself up to be mislynched if you're wrong
It's actually in towns interest to mislynch me, you really dont want me at lylo / : that said, I'm pretty sure my votes gonna stay on Phagga, pretty much because your asking me to reconsider my play when my current course of action is already going your way XD seems like a pretty townie thing to do.
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On March 30 2014 09:28 phagga wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2014 08:46 gumshoe wrote:On March 30 2014 08:39 phagga wrote:
@gumshoe
Why am I scum? Honestly it's just a process of elimination lynch / : I'm not really considering holy or marv at all and my Rayn read is pretty out there( most likely wrong as well). Moving past the seemingly obvius townies (who are likely to get shot and should therefore not be lynch targets) I actually feel pretty good about prp(no tremendously good reasons as to why, I just kinda do going by his general play). That leaves you and thrawn, so long as one of you is lynched today, I really dont care / : and I'm too lazy to argue why town should choose chocolate over vannila, so thats pretty much where I'm at concerning todays lynch. So bascially you have no reason to vote me or not vote prp (or vote Thrawn), so you just stick your vote somewhere where it looks fancy? Also, I'm totally Pistachio.
So basically your trying to avoid your own lynch by turning it around on the weakest people on your wagon? Hey look at that, I can scummily generalize crappy play too : D
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