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sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 01:38 GMT
#761
Which do you think it is then? Val + LT? Val + OK? OK + LT?
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 01:38 GMT
#762
Right now, I think it's Val + LT.
Imaginary
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
April 01 2014 01:39 GMT
#763
I'm pooped today, and I'll post more later but quick responses for now:

1) I am not doctor. That being said, I'm not sure what to make of sqrt's claims. He could be making this shit up as scum do know the setup to know there won't be a counterclaim. I'm just going to ignore all this talk of blues and roleblocks because I have no fking clue whether to believe it or not.

2) I...don't get what Robik's case against me is? Can you elaborate?

I'm going to reread filters later tonight to figure out who the second mafia is. But initial impressions:

#vote sqrt

I said it before and I'll say it again, being a blue role is no excuse for being scummy as fk.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
April 01 2014 02:26 GMT
#764
Yeah I've thought about it and I don't believe you at all sqrt.
On top of what I've said before, you're consistently town reading me for weak reasons, probably because you don't think you can get me lynched and just want me on your good side. Your logic for the supposed night saves is unbelievably convoluted, which is to be expected since you needed to make up rationale and wanted to make something that was complicated enough so that we couldn't look at it and say "wow that's a load of bullshit".

In addition, as I've said before, it turns out really convenient for you that you get to claim doctor and having been roleblocked every time. Consider this: we don't know whether the setup contains a roleblocker and medic in addition to the parity cop -- only the scumteam knows. Then it's safest for scumteam to try to throw suspicion off one of their members by claiming medic knowing that he can't possibly be counterclaimed because there is no medic. Awfully convenient if the mafia member closest to being lynched suddenly claims a role no one else will!
Same thing with the roleblocks -- I bet no one counterclaimed roleblocks because there's no roleblocker. Is it a wild coincidence you got roleblocked two nights in a row?

"W-well m-m-maybe they KNEW I was m-medic!" Please. If they knew you were medic, why wouldn't they just shoot you? There would be nothing stopping that! In fact the entire situation that Robik is backing your claim suddenly makes it evident this is a poorly thought out gambit by the scum team to try to win ASAP. You two were even RJ's scum reads, so you guys shot him to prevent him from pushing any further -- the logic here is clear and simple unlike your huge mess.

None of your actions match what a real doctor would do -- a real doctor is town and plays like town, not scum (which is what you've played like).
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
April 01 2014 02:32 GMT
#765
Vote Count

sqrtofneg1 (2) - OnceKing, Lord Tolkien
Lord Tolkien (1) - IAmRobik

Not Voting (2) - Valenius, sqrtofneg1



Currently sqrtofneg1 is set to be lynched!



Day ends at Wednesday, Apr 02 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 02:34 GMT
#766
On April 01 2014 11:26 OnceKing wrote:
"W-well m-m-maybe they KNEW I was m-medic!" Please. If they knew you were medic, why wouldn't they just shoot you? There would be nothing stopping that! In fact the entire situation that Robik is backing your claim suddenly makes it evident this is a poorly thought out gambit by the scum team to try to win ASAP. You two were even RJ's scum reads, so you guys shot him to prevent him from pushing any further -- the logic here is clear and simple unlike your huge mess.

None of your actions match what a real doctor would do -- a real doctor is town and plays like town, not scum (which is what you've played like).

They probably kept me alive for a pretty easy mislynch. Which is where we're headed to.
Imaginary
OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
April 01 2014 03:13 GMT
#767
lol. wifom, everyone's favorite defense
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 03:13 GMT
#768
Night guys.
Imaginary
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
April 01 2014 07:59 GMT
#769
On April 01 2014 10:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 07:43 Valenius wrote:
Once / LT - I'd prefer a speedy response from you if possible. It should be early evening for you guys right?

Also, if you're doubting why i'm asking, Robik, you can back me up that it's the right play, right?


Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 07:45 IAmRobik wrote:
If you're doing what I think you're doing, then I approve. Otherwise, I'm kinda nervous about the implications.


For the record, I forgot that I thought that sqrt was blue, and I thought you were trying to trap someone and bait out a fake medic claim (and that you were going to claim medic)


Im phone posting now so I cant put it in too much detail, but id mapped out what a doctor claim from each of you guys meant in terms of sqrt, and potential scum pairings. If there was no doctor claim (or sqrt claims) then the (obvious) first thing is to decide if he's lying. If he is lying, then I advise each of you to go look at his interactions with everyone so far this game, and come up with what pairs work, and which dont.
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
April 01 2014 08:03 GMT
#770
As it stands now.

##Vote: sqrtofneg1

Sqrt, why did you try and save robik last night?
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
April 01 2014 09:29 GMT
#771
Alright, the only mafia pair that makes any sense without major wifom (for me) is sqrt and Robik, and matches my current scum feelings (they haven't really changed since Day 2, god that was a disaster day). If sqrt is mafia with anyone, it's Robik. With Valenius and OK's voting on sqrt through the day and my own stand on him Day 1, it makes no sense for them to be partners with sqrt (or me).

The only other thing I find believable is Val and OK, or Robik and OK, and that requires quite some WIFOM do to their day 1 moves.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
April 01 2014 09:29 GMT
#772
*due to
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
LoneMeow
Profile Joined June 2013
Finland1396 Posts
April 01 2014 11:45 GMT
#773
Vote Count

sqrtofneg1 (3) - OnceKing, Lord Tolkien, Valenius
Lord Tolkien (1) - IAmRobik

Not Voting (1) - sqrtofneg1



Currently sqrtofneg1 is set to be lynched!



Day ends at Wednesday, Apr 02 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 01 2014 15:19 GMT
#774
LT analysis:


Starts off the day joking about HS with sqrt. That's fine.
Votes sqrt jokingly
Votes OK for some reason claiming "my renewed ok scum sense is tingling" but then agrees with OK regarding lynching lurkers

Now this is where it gets interesting:
Gives his list of reads along with "trying to make a play"

His reads are:
"OK sounds town as all fk" -- even though he just said that his scum senses are telling him that OK is maf
I am town, but apparently my motives are suspicious
"Valenius is super town in my eyes, he's cleared for me" -- this is "justified" by the "play"
"Pixelated is neutral or slightly scummy to me" -- this is also part of the "play"
"Eden feels even more town for me" -- apparently this is for pushing Cavalinho and being a clear posted. I'd be pretty happy with Eden too if he was pushing an agenda that gets town lynched and I were mafia

BUT in the very next explanation of Cavalinho he doesn't even call Cava mafia
"Cavalinho sounds...well, aggressive in all his posts"

We know that Cavalinho is town, which is probably why LT was so reluctant to build a real case against him. It's always important to leave yourself options when you're mafia so that you don't look scummy when you have to flip, in case all of town finds someone townie.

"Sqrt has thus far been fairly disconcerting to me" -- once again, he seems to want to call him scum, but is afraid to actually do it. Before Sqrt's claim (which, again, I forgot that I had read him blue), my thought this past night was the LT and sqrt are together based off of their d1 interactions.

Says some stuff at RJ but not about RJ. That was another possible connection I saw, but now RJ is dead.


So, pretty much, LT is unwilling to take any strong stance on anyone being mafia. This is 1000000000% a mafia characteristic.
I will keep reading his posts, but yeah. Just laying it out for all of you kids so you can just sheep me to victory.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 15:48 GMT
#775
OK, Val, LT -
One of you are town. Two of you are mafia. (assuming that Robik is town, which I'm willing to go with him till the end)
One of you are making a mistake. Two of you are on the verge of victory.
Reconsider.
#Vote LordTolkien
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 15:51 GMT
#776
On April 01 2014 17:03 Valenius wrote:
As it stands now.

##Vote: sqrtofneg1

Sqrt, why did you try and save robik last night?

Because he seemed like the most logical kill, plus I couldn't save RJ cause I already saved him.
I had OK as my night save for most of the time, and then I switched last hour because Robik has a town reputation, and because he hasn't tunneled me, and if mafia kill him, everyone would mislynch me the next day for an easy win.
Imaginary
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 01 2014 17:02 GMT
#777
Sorry. Work meetings and whatnot. Dafuq?!?! Who actually works at work zzzzzz.



LT analysis continued:

He finally takes a stance on two "top scum reads," Cava and sqrt, and leaves out valenius, the person he's using to "try to make a play"

After that he reveals his plan. Let's analyze this real quick

His first long post with reads comes at 6:13. His next post without valenius in his scum read is at 6:40 and then he admits to lying...sorry, to making the "play" at 7:31.

LT claims that he "Was trying to scumbait with it when questioning Cavalinho and sqrt." but that doesn't align with the timeline of events, because the only people who responded within the period between 6:13 and 7:31 are Eden and Pixalated. His "play" is just a blatant cover up of his lies.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
April 01 2014 17:05 GMT
#778
On April 02 2014 00:51 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2014 17:03 Valenius wrote:
As it stands now.

##Vote: sqrtofneg1

Sqrt, why did you try and save robik last night?

Because he seemed like the most logical kill, plus I couldn't save RJ cause I already saved him.
I had OK as my night save for most of the time, and then I switched last hour because Robik has a town reputation, and because he hasn't tunneled me, and if mafia kill him, everyone would mislynch me the next day for an easy win.

It kinda sucks that you saved me. That means that mafia will just kill me tonight and then tomorrow they're going to shed doubt on why you're still alive or some bullshit. Cause once we kill LT today, I'll be confirmed town and they will be scared shitless (and rightfully so) that I'm going to figure out at f3 which of the other two are mafia.
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#779
The problem is, if the last town doesn't switch over to LT, we lost.
Imaginary
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
April 01 2014 17:16 GMT
#780
Oh, and what's PoE????
Imaginary
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