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Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 17:16 GMT
#421
[caps and boldface for emphasis because my requests are getting lost in the posts]
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
sqrtofneg1
Profile Blog Joined November 2013
Canada1159 Posts
March 27 2014 17:16 GMT
#422
On March 28 2014 02:16 Eden1892 wrote:
ROBIK, VOTE. Thanks.

HE DID. Thanks.
Imaginary
Pixalated
Profile Joined March 2014
Singapore38 Posts
March 27 2014 17:17 GMT
#423
He voted me.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 17:19 GMT
#424
Durp, I see it now. This game is moving too fast for me in class right now
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 17:34 GMT
#425
On March 27 2014 23:01 IAmRobik wrote:
I think that the trio of Cavalinho, LT and OK contain both mafia, although OKs post are growing on me as the game has progressed (specifically his last post where he outlines why he thinks Valenius is mafia -- a sentiment I disagree with).

As long as we are lynching between Cav and LT, I'm happy throwing my vote down on either one of them by the end of the day. Let's just make sure that AT LEAST one of them is a wagon for today.

Okay, so obviously this is outdated since you have Pixalated as one scum. Let's assume you drop OnceKing from the list here (you seem to be softening on him). Now you've got one of Cavalinho or Lord Tolkien as the other scum.

But! Earlier you said:

On March 27 2014 00:53 IAmRobik wrote:
The number of people suspicious of (myself included), and voting for, cavalinho is a bit unnerving. I do agree that he's been the scummiest, but I've yet to see someone defend him (other than maybe LT). IDK. I'm getting the heebie jeebies from this.


1) Do you think Cavalinho is town or scum?
2) If you think Cavalinho is scum, what do you make of the fact that no one was contesting his lynch?
3) If you think Cavalinho is town, then according to your first quote from above, you should think the scum team is Lord Tolkien and Pixalated. If so:
(a) How do you rationalize the fact that Pixalated had the correct reaction to Lord Tolkien's trap and subsequent pressure on LT?
(b) Why are you by yourself on an outlier when your other scum read is one vote behind your town read?
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 27 2014 17:37 GMT
#426
On March 28 2014 02:04 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 01:49 Cavalinho wrote:
On March 28 2014 01:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 28 2014 01:37 Eden1892 wrote:
Hey Robik, tell me why you haven't voted yet and one significant point of discussion regarding your top two suspects (Cavalinho, Lord Tolkien) that you feel you contributed to the day.

I was planning on hammering the shit out of whoever I thought was more mafia at the end of the day if the wagons were close because I trust me to have the hammer than anyone else.

As for what I've brought to the table with Cava and LT...well...that doesn't really matter. I actually don't know if I've brought up any new content regarding them, I'd have to reread my posts. What I do know is that I have a pretty large town circle, and I'm happy lynching outside of it, and those two are DEFINITELY outside of it.


And I'm outside of your town circle because...?

1) You were very reluctant to answer my questions early in the thread. I wanted you to take a stance and you were unwilling to do so.

2) While it's flattering to have someone just agree with me nonstop, I think that you could have been just sheeping the shit out of me. You know that people are going to follow me and thus if OK is town, it's easy for you to just hop on early cause i'm pretty much confirmed GOAT.

3) After I said the thing about there being a lot of votes on you, there was a really really quick and dramatic shift away from you and it was almost as unnerving to me as the original amount of people who DID vote on you.

Hopefully this answers some of your questions. I'll try to answer the rest. You seem to be missing A LOT of things that are happening. Maybe you wanna hold off on this convo until you're back home from class? Cause repeating myself isn't really productive.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 17:40 GMT
#427
No, that actually doesn't answer my questions at all.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Pixalated
Profile Joined March 2014
Singapore38 Posts
March 27 2014 17:42 GMT
#428
Okay, im really tired and need to sleep. Since I am not really feeling like LT and Cav are good lynches anymore, I am placing my vote on val, as I like onceking's case against him the most. Wanted to wait for val to get back to respond before deciding intially, but I had a long day and my brain is kinda fried.

I don't like sqrt as well, but I think I prefer val

##Unvote
##Vote: Valenius

I will try to wake up an hour before lynch, but I will probably sleep through my alarm so don't count on it. Will be here for awhile more can answer any quick questions.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 27 2014 17:43 GMT
#429
On March 28 2014 02:34 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 23:01 IAmRobik wrote:
I think that the trio of Cavalinho, LT and OK contain both mafia, although OKs post are growing on me as the game has progressed (specifically his last post where he outlines why he thinks Valenius is mafia -- a sentiment I disagree with).

As long as we are lynching between Cav and LT, I'm happy throwing my vote down on either one of them by the end of the day. Let's just make sure that AT LEAST one of them is a wagon for today.

Okay, so obviously this is outdated since you have Pixalated as one scum. Let's assume you drop OnceKing from the list here (you seem to be softening on him). Now you've got one of Cavalinho or Lord Tolkien as the other scum.

But! Earlier you said:

Show nested quote +
On March 27 2014 00:53 IAmRobik wrote:
The number of people suspicious of (myself included), and voting for, cavalinho is a bit unnerving. I do agree that he's been the scummiest, but I've yet to see someone defend him (other than maybe LT). IDK. I'm getting the heebie jeebies from this.


1) Do you think Cavalinho is town or scum?
2) If you think Cavalinho is scum, what do you make of the fact that no one was contesting his lynch?
3) If you think Cavalinho is town, then according to your first quote from above, you should think the scum team is Lord Tolkien and Pixalated. If so:
(a) How do you rationalize the fact that Pixalated had the correct reaction to Lord Tolkien's trap and subsequent pressure on LT?
(b) Why are you by yourself on an outlier when your other scum read is one vote behind your town read?

Sigh. I'm such a fucking pushover.

1) scum
2) after i said something about that, there was a HUGE push against him. I think I might have set a trigger for everyone to abandon ship.
3) assuming that cava is town:
a) while pixalated's reaction was good -- I myself had the same reaction -- he still ended up following you onto Cava and he has since backtracked off of LT
b) I assure you that I will make my vote count. I do think that pixalated is scummy based off of the case that I posted earlier. If people want to follow me on him, that would be fucking great cause he's my best scum read at the moment. If people disagree and it comes down to two others, I will make the proper adjustment in my vote. I don't see why I need to squash a mafia read on someone just because there are two other wagons with 4+ hours left in the day. My goal is to lynch mafia. I didn't remember anything pixalated did this game, so I went back and read his filter and drew the conclusion that he was mafia from it. Thus my vote.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 27 2014 17:44 GMT
#430
On March 28 2014 02:40 Eden1892 wrote:
No, that actually doesn't answer my questions at all.

Actually it did answer questions 1 and 2, but you clearly are focused on class and not this game, or you just don't give a fuck about reading what I wrote.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 27 2014 17:44 GMT
#431
On March 28 2014 02:40 Eden1892 wrote:
No, that actually doesn't answer my questions at all.

I guess this is what it feels like to be Cavalinho in a discussion with you.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 17:51 GMT
#432
That was a better series of answers than I expected.

Followup: Why would Pixalated follow me onto his scum partner?

Also, side question, this one is less pressing but it's sticking out so I figure I'll ask anyway. Why are you so pushy with other people but so soft with me? You almost seem scared of me. Not really GOAT behavior imo.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 17:52 GMT
#433
On March 28 2014 02:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:40 Eden1892 wrote:
No, that actually doesn't answer my questions at all.

Actually it did answer questions 1 and 2, but you clearly are focused on class and not this game, or you just don't give a fuck about reading what I wrote.

No, I just wanted hard answers, not soft ones. Yes, I could imply reasonably well what your positions on 1) and 2) were from that sequence. No, I'm not going to do your homework for you.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 27 2014 17:53 GMT
#434
On March 28 2014 02:51 Eden1892 wrote:
That was a better series of answers than I expected.

Followup: Why would Pixalated follow me onto his scum partner?

Also, side question, this one is less pressing but it's sticking out so I figure I'll ask anyway. Why are you so pushy with other people but so soft with me? You almost seem scared of me. Not really GOAT behavior imo.

I don't know. Maybe they're not partners together. Maybe it's LT and Pixalated. Maybe it's Cava and LT. I'm not sure what the right answer is to the scum pairing. I definitely can see disconnects with certain people not being mafia together, but I don't want to bring that up yet because it's still d1 and making those types of assessments this early is dangerous.

I don't think I'm really pushy with anyone. If you think I'm aggressive towards certain people it's because I want to put pressure on them. I don't think I need to put any pressure on you. I think you are town and I think you're playing well.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
March 27 2014 17:55 GMT
#435
Vote Count

sqrtofneg1 (2) - Valenius, Lord Tolkien, Lord Tolkien, Valenius
OnceKing (0) - sqrtofneg1, Lord Tolkien
IAmRobik (0) - Cavalinho, OnceKing, Eden1892
Cavalinho (2) - Eden1892, RolandJarvis, Pixalated, OnceKing, sqrtofneg1
Eden1892 (0) - Cavalinho
Lord Tolkien (2) - Eden1892, OnceKing, Cavalinho
Valenius (2) - OnceKing, Pixalated
Pixalated (1) - IAmRobik

Not Voting (0) -



Currently Cavalinho is set to be lynched!



Day ends at Thursday, Mar 27 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00), .
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 27 2014 17:56 GMT
#436
On March 28 2014 02:52 Eden1892 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2014 02:44 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 28 2014 02:40 Eden1892 wrote:
No, that actually doesn't answer my questions at all.

Actually it did answer questions 1 and 2, but you clearly are focused on class and not this game, or you just don't give a fuck about reading what I wrote.

No, I just wanted hard answers, not soft ones. Yes, I could imply reasonably well what your positions on 1) and 2) were from that sequence. No, I'm not going to do your homework for you.

IT WAS THE FUCKING PREVIOUS PAGE. I am not forcing you to go through hundreds of posts of research. I had legitimately JUST answered how I felt about cava and two of the questions you asked were getting me to reiterate myself. How am I supposed to feel?
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 17:56 GMT
#437
"Dangerous" or not, you just stated in no uncertain terms that Cavalinho is scum, and that Pixalated is scum. That means they're the mafia team. I don't think they can both be mafia given how long Pixalated has been on Cavalinho and (while perhaps pushing Tolkien more) agitating for his lynch. I suppose you're more certain about Pixalated than Cavalinho, yes?

And okay, that's fine, I was genuinely curious about it is all. Your personality just seems more aggressive than this naturally. It seems similar to mine, but at the same time I think I would be more aggressive with myself than you are, so it's throwing me off a little. Probably nothing.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 27 2014 17:58 GMT
#438
People can be independently scummy.
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 18:01 GMT
#439
Correct. How certain are you of Cavalinho and Pixalated being scum?

I'm asking because I can see both of them independently being scum, but I can't see both of them being scum.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
Eden1892
Profile Joined March 2014
United States5866 Posts
March 27 2014 18:06 GMT
#440
Additionally, do I have this right as far as your reads go to this point?

scum: Cavalinho, Pixalated
maybe scum: Lord Tolkien
town: all else

I know OnceKing might be off-base; you were fine with me moving him to your town pile in my questions but that might have been for sake of discussion. I think the rest is correct based off of reading your filter.
“I like to see myself as the swim instructor that trows kids in the pool shouting at them they should try to not drink too much water.” - Koshi
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