III Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition - Page 91

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 12:54 GMT

#1801

On March 20 2014 21:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Actually I think GT is town never mind. He fufilled his promise of writing a case, his posts are casual and lighthearted and he seems to be working towards something.

Well I disagree with that.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 20 2014 12:55 GMT

#1802

Ok I know what Im thinking now.
DONT LYNCH GT, lynch DJO!

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 12:56 GMT

#1803

On March 20 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:
Ok I know what Im thinking now.
DONT LYNCH GT, lynch DJO!

LOL. oats is town.

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 12:56 GMT

#1804

Wrong. But town.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 20 2014 12:57 GMT

#1805

On March 20 2014 21:54 DarthPunk wrote:

Show nested quote +

Well I disagree with that.

In what ways is he not doing these things?
Or do these things not make him town?

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 13:02 GMT

#1806

On March 20 2014 21:57 Oatsmaster wrote:

Show nested quote +

In what ways is he not doing these things?
Or do these things not make him town?

He did the following that made me think he is scum

Made a weird vote on Holy which he says he will explain in a follow up post.

Fails to deliver on that promise for a substantial amount of time.

Comes back with a very fake/polished post on HF.

Disappears before we can cross examine him properly and he is yet to return with deadline approaching.

Failing to deliver on a promised case in a timely manner and reappearing with a highly manufactured fake sounding case is like classic scum.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 20 2014 13:03 GMT

#1807

ok so 1 thing mainly.
And its nothing to do with what I pointed out.

I think that his disappearance is unfortunate and not alignment indicative.

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 13:04 GMT

#1808

On March 20 2014 22:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
ok so 1 thing mainly.
And its nothing to do with what I pointed out.

I think that his disappearance is unfortunate and not alignment indicative.

How can you know that? did his case not read as fake to you?

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 20 2014 13:10 GMT

#1809

Hes a smurf therefore not a noob and therefore not gonna shy away when he is almost 100% dead.

And his case just seems very structured. Like he spent a lotta time and effort writing it. Just wrong, not fake.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 20 2014 13:29 GMT

#1810

On March 20 2014 16:34 DarthPunk wrote:
About Vivax: I don't know. The case on you originally was focusing on the wrong things in my opinion. People have brought up some good points against him, Rayn in particular.

That post in which he wrote a wall on his schedule was poor and scummy.

I actually wouldn't mind flipping him. He is on the grey side of red for me.

What are the good points i have brought against Vivax?

On March 20 2014 18:31 DarthPunk wrote:

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On March 20 2014 18:28 thrawn2112 wrote:

On March 20 2014 18:24 DarthPunk wrote:

On March 20 2014 18:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
those posts from djo you say are reasonable, here is what you previously said about them:

On March 20 2014 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:29 Djodref wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:11 Djodref wrote:

On March 20 2014 08:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wait Djodref. Why is any vote on you more townie or unimportant than any other?

You mean the Koshi vote ?
I found him very straightforward and open in the way he voted me. He pointed out at my demand what he found scummy in my play and warned me that I should step up my game. I didn't do it and I feel like I got what I deserved.
Thrawn and Oats votes are less explanatory.

They are all voting for you for exactly same reasons and it's easily to be seen from their posts.

They may have the same reasons but they didn't have the same way of doing it. From my point of view, it could be convenient for them to just put down their vote on me if they were mafia.
And to answer to thrawn, I need to see more from Oats to read him properly, he looked quite townish until he decided to put down his vote on me and went to bed.
As for you thrawn, I was worried about your activity level until you started to post more tonight. I have you more on the townie side with your latest posts. But this is as well downgraded by the fact that you have your vote on me.

this makes less sense than i thought...

you're reading koshi as town, koshi votes you, but you previously read him as town so his vote is ok

oats was looking townish until his vote, which was scummy
thrawn is more on the townie side but his vote is scummy

I don't understand why you are ignoring koshi's vote "because he looked town" while you are holding thrawn/oats votes against them even though you were also townreading them before the votes.

Yes that does look bad. And djo is the kind of player for whom being wishy-washy is a legitimate tell.

you said they looked bad. after that you went on to call djo mafia based on meta. the SAME posts that you are calling reasoanble and using to justify not lynching djo, are the posts that you initially called bad. what's up with that?

The content is not reasonable necessarily. What IS reasonable is his willingness to take part in a productive discourse and interact with the thread. Which I feel is pretty clear from his final few posts on the second page of his filter. He is willing to talk with people such as you and rayn and is attempting to make his thought process clear etc.

I still think he is scummy, I wrote a case on him that I believe in, but as I said, I would like to give him the chance to get his shit together as he is showing that he is willing to take part in a productive discourse.

Whereas someone like GT is afking and Teh poofter either ignores or outright ignores my questions until I prod him to death, after which he finally answers my questions with outright lies and twists of the truth.

Does that seem reasonable to you?

not really, because those djo posts were so bad that it overrides the fact that he was at least here to make them. here is what you're saying

scummy guy 1 doesn't show up
scummy guy 2 shows up and says scummy stuff

and then you're deciding that scummy guy 2 is being "reasonable" and is worth saving over #1? i think they should at least be equal in scumminess from your point of view, especially considering how any time you talk about anything djo says you call it scummy

Fuck no. That is not at all how I should think.

Scummy guy one does inexplicable scummy shit and then afk's

Scummy guy 2 makes reasonable effort to enter into a productive discourse with his accusers, is willing to answer questions and may prove to be town if given the time and space to hunt for scum and continue his present willingness to talk and communicate effectively. Which is exactly what djo has been doing.

I disagree with this post entirely.

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 20 2014 13:30 GMT

#1811

Who are the people not voting for Giggletummy atm?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

March 20 2014 13:32 GMT

#1812

Dp didn't comment on Giggles case at all ever by the way and look how strongly he is pushing him now.

Lynch with fire.

Also read my case

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 20 2014 13:35 GMT

#1813

Me/thrawn I think and alak/gt.

Holyflare, how does scum DP produce 10 pages of filter day 1?

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 13:36 GMT

#1814

On March 20 2014 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Show nested quote +

What are the good points i have brought against Vivax?

Show nested quote +

On March 20 2014 18:31 DarthPunk wrote:

On March 20 2014 18:28 thrawn2112 wrote:

On March 20 2014 18:24 DarthPunk wrote:

On March 20 2014 18:18 thrawn2112 wrote:
those posts from djo you say are reasonable, here is what you previously said about them:

On March 20 2014 09:35 DarthPunk wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:33 thrawn2112 wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:29 Djodref wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:

On March 20 2014 09:11 Djodref wrote:
[quote]

You mean the Koshi vote ?
I found him very straightforward and open in the way he voted me. He pointed out at my demand what he found scummy in my play and warned me that I should step up my game. I didn't do it and I feel like I got what I deserved.
Thrawn and Oats votes are less explanatory.

They are all voting for you for exactly same reasons and it's easily to be seen from their posts.

Yes that does look bad. And djo is the kind of player for whom being wishy-washy is a legitimate tell.

I disagree with this post entirely.

It wasn't you it was koshi. And looking back I don't agree with it after all, because it's meta based. and that is not allowed.

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

March 20 2014 13:36 GMT

#1815

(still think giggle is scummy though) it makes perfect sense for dp to sit back on him and not say anything about the case he was waiting for only for giggle to say bus me i have no time in qt and then dp to start pushing for him out of the blue

raynpelikoneet

Finland43268 Posts

March 20 2014 13:36 GMT

#1816

DarthPunk why does this look townie and contributes to scumhunting:
Djo: "Koshi is townie because he looked town before he voted for me and he gave reasons for his vote. Oats did not give reasons for his vote so he does not look townie.
Djo: "Oats why did you vote for me?"
rayn: "What are you talking about, Oats is voting for you for the exact same reasons Koshi is. Read his posts."
Djo: "Oats why are you voting for me?"
Djo: "Also Oats looked town before his vote on me but because of his vote he does not any more."
Someone: "Oats is voting for you because of what Koshi has already said."
Djo: "Oats why are you voting for me?"
Oats: [makes a more detailed post about why he is voting for Djo]
Djo: "Oats why are you voting for me? Can you tell the reasons so we can discuss it?"
Oats: [quotes his post]
Djo: [does not post any more]

care to explain DP?

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

March 20 2014 13:37 GMT

#1817

On March 20 2014 22:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Me/thrawn I think and alak/gt.

Holyflare, how does scum DP produce 10 pages of filter day 1?

It's not hard to write pages as scum and dp isn't bad

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 13:37 GMT

#1818

On March 20 2014 22:36 Holyflare wrote:
(still think giggle is scummy though) it makes perfect sense for dp to sit back on him and not say anything about the case he was waiting for only for giggle to say bus me i have no time in qt and then dp to start pushing for him out of the blue

I said ages ago. If this dude doesn't come back and make a fucking huge recovery he is scum. This is like early day one. Read my filter.

He didn't so now I want to lynch him.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 20 2014 13:37 GMT

#1819

Its not hard?
Really HF.
Really.

DarthPunk

Australia10854 Posts

March 20 2014 13:38 GMT

#1820

On March 20 2014 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk why does this look townie and contributes to scumhunting:
Djo: "Koshi is townie because he looked town before he voted for me and he gave reasons for his vote. Oats did not give reasons for his vote so he does not look townie.
Djo: "Oats why did you vote for me?"
rayn: "What are you talking about, Oats is voting for you for the exact same reasons Koshi is. Read his posts."
Djo: "Oats why are you voting for me?"
Djo: "Also Oats looked town before his vote on me but because of his vote he does not any more."
Someone: "Oats is voting for you because of what Koshi has already said."
Djo: "Oats why are you voting for me?"
Oats: [makes a more detailed post about why he is voting for Djo]
Djo: "Oats why are you voting for me? Can you tell the reasons so we can discuss it?"
Oats: [quotes his post]
Djo: [does not post any more]

care to explain DP?

I didn't say that it contributed to scum hunting. I said he was willing to discuss things which makes me want to give him some time over GT who is absent.

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