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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-18 12:43:27
March 18 2014 12:43 GMT
#441
Koshi that 70% theory does not include the rest of the town claiming mafia you silly.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 12:47 GMT
#442
You say all these things. But let's look at SMB.

I didn't look particullary town.
Snowman didn't look particullary town.
VA looked like VA so nobody knows tbh.

BUT BUT BUT

Who did you lynch?
Troll Grack whos reads were actually 3/3 somewhere in the day.
Lurker Toad.

Dat 70%
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 12:49 GMT
#443
It's really about how you define the 70% I guess.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 18 2014 12:51 GMT
#444
Yes, we lynched someone who decided to troll pretty much all D1. Then we lynched someone who martyred. Yet still, i had the game pretty much figured out. I even said Vayne looks so goddamn scummy but i can't lynch him over Oats who decided he is not going to help me before i die.

I just said it does not include townies claiming mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 18 2014 12:58 GMT
#445
Or look at the Witchcraft game where you and thrawn almost had the game figured out despite three townies basically claiming mafia and one townie ACTUALLY claiming mafia. It was pretty damn close even though i was one of the "towniest motherfuckers" in that game. Yes, you were basically an inch away from winning the game.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 13:03 GMT
#446
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I still disagree.

Minis are successful for town recently because town players are getting stronger due to obvious townies while scummers are failing in recent games.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 13:05 GMT
#447
I disagree about the 70% thing.

7 townies trying to figure out the game
3 townies not trying to figure out the game.
3 scummers influencing 10 townies.

Not the best odds for town.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 18 2014 13:07 GMT
#448
be quiet, Koshi.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 18 2014 13:08 GMT
#449
On March 18 2014 22:07 marvellosity wrote:
be quiet, Koshi.

So mean...
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 18 2014 13:09 GMT
#450
On March 18 2014 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Does it help if I in too? Or you already have enough?

You can take my spot if you want to. Honestly don't feel like playing too much anyway

I kinda want to play but I will have a lot less time and Im not sure how it will go, whether Ill be a liability and all that.
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 13:09 GMT
#451
Nha. marv knows I am right. It is his way of admitting it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 13:10 GMT
#452
Oats tasted MVP.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 13:15 GMT
#453
On March 18 2014 22:05 Koshi wrote:
I disagree about the 70% thing.

7 townies trying to figure out the game
3 townies not trying to figure out the game.
3 scummers influencing 10 townies.

Not the best odds for town.

Also this is for mini.
Now look at big game.

21 townies trying to figure out game.
9 townies not trying to figure out game.
6 scummers influencing 30 townies.

BAD BAD BAD ODDS.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 18 2014 13:17 GMT
#454
It only takes one influential townie to find and push mafia.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2014 13:17 GMT
#455
On March 18 2014 21:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi that 70% theory does not include the rest of the town claiming mafia you silly.


Only retards would do that.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 18 2014 13:17 GMT
#456
On March 18 2014 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 19:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 18 2014 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Does it help if I in too? Or you already have enough?

You can take my spot if you want to. Honestly don't feel like playing too much anyway

I kinda want to play but I will have a lot less time and Im not sure how it will go, whether Ill be a liability and all that.

Just play or replace in case someone has to drop out later on, you played a great game in Foundation!

Koshi the point is there are very very few instances where mafia wins because of "great mafia play". Almost always it's because townies fuck up. If townies do not fuck up there are no mislynches. If there are no mislynches there is nothing you can do regardless of how good you are or how bad townies are. Nobody does even really need to "figure out the game" because there is just nothing mafia can do. There just needs to be someone who is able to push lynches and with the current level of play on TL mafia, pretty much anyone can do it, especially when the "town leaders" are dead.
table for two on a tv tray
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 18 2014 13:18 GMT
#457
On March 18 2014 22:05 Koshi wrote:
I disagree about the 70% thing.

7 townies trying to figure out the game
3 townies not trying to figure out the game.
3 scummers influencing 10 townies.

Not the best odds for town.


It's not about trying to figure out the game. It's about posting enough and well enough to guarantee a townread on you.

if I'm in a 13 player game and the pool of lynch candidates is 6 players, 3 of which are the mafia, it's really easy to win.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 18 2014 13:25 GMT
#458
On March 18 2014 22:18 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2014 22:05 Koshi wrote:
I disagree about the 70% thing.

7 townies trying to figure out the game
3 townies not trying to figure out the game.
3 scummers influencing 10 townies.

Not the best odds for town.


It's not about trying to figure out the game. It's about posting enough and well enough to guarantee a townread on you.

if I'm in a 13 player game and the pool of lynch candidates is 6 players, 3 of which are the mafia, it's really easy to win.

Nope. Simply not true.

Thug life mafia I confirmed 3 townies and into last day the most obvious scum "cheesecake" was not prime lynch target. People were still wanting to lynch Austin who played his hearth out or VA or WoS. We were quite lucky that CC decided to give up because I would have liked to see it.

Survivor Series mafia there were so many "confirmed" townies (or at least targets who shouldn't be lynched due to who mafia selected) and it wasn't close.
I had a good night of sleep.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16318 Posts
March 18 2014 13:26 GMT
#459
I don't get this argument. Obviously rayn/marv/palmar are right but Koshi is the definition of a player that proves his townieness.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
March 18 2014 13:26 GMT
#460
On March 18 2014 21:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Or look at the Witchcraft game where you and thrawn almost had the game figured out despite three townies basically claiming mafia and one townie ACTUALLY claiming mafia. It was pretty damn close even though i was one of the "towniest motherfuckers" in that game. Yes, you were basically an inch away from winning the game.

Horseshit, 'cause I DID have that game figured out way early on.
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