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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#2259
Djodref i am more interested in why you think Slam/Palmar are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:23 GMT
#2261
What's HAM?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:29 GMT
#2266
On March 21 2014 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
HAM as in going after someone hard, making textbook sized cases and just generally making it impossible to see him as scum. The only one I know about is Survivor Series.

Yes he does.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:30 GMT
#2267
The problem is VE, that he also busses so it's literally impossible to tell if he is scum or not until later on in the game. He does not "slip" early on.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:31 GMT
#2269
Can this just be so easy that GT is mafia and Vivax fucked up?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:32 GMT
#2272
Like:
"hey let's call one scumbuddy scum too"
"oh shit he is actually being voted, let's not call him scum any more"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:32 GMT
#2274
On March 21 2014 07:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think he might have slipped this game by not trying to pocket me already. :/

Anyway, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Just didn't know if anyone else had seen it first-hand or not.

Can you elaborate more on this?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:33 GMT
#2276
NONONO MY OTHER EAR TURNED YELLOW!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:35 GMT
#2280
On March 21 2014 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On March 21 2014 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can this just be so easy that GT is mafia and Vivax fucked up?

I wouldn't call that "easy" necessarily. With GT being the only counterwagon to Vivax that's going to make it a little stranger to lynch him tomorrow for most people I would assume.

That's my problem.
GT being mafia would make sense but if GT is mafia wtf was mafia doing whole D1??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:41 GMT
#2284
On March 21 2014 06:54 Djodref wrote:
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On March 21 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref and giggletummy.

What mislynches mafia tried to push throughout D1 and why?


Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it.
I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually...

Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help.
I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to.
In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything.

Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum.
In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case.

So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one.

I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players.


On March 21 2014 07:36 Djodref wrote:
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On March 21 2014 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref i am more interested in why you think Slam/Palmar are scum.


I think it could fit well in the case where mafia didn't try to influence the lynch that much during D1. Actually your question about who mafia try to push today opened my eyes because I realized that they didn't push me, or very little even if I was the perfect mislynch.
I want to read again the thread from midday where GT and me were both the main lynch candidates with the assumption that GT is town and see what I get from there. I won't do it tonight though because I need some sleep first.
Slam didn't do anything so he immediately fits well in this hypothesis.
And Palmar did push GT the strongest.

How do the red and green go together?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:42 GMT
#2286
Like, you say you don't think GT is mafia, so mafia did not need to do anything on D1 at that time.
Then the reason you give for Palmar to be mafia is that he pushed the GT lynch strongest!?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:43 GMT
#2287
On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time?

I don't understand what this means?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:45 GMT
#2291
On March 21 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time?

I don't understand what this means?


because mafia roll over and die when they get called out

No they don't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:46 GMT
#2294
On March 21 2014 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time?

I don't understand what this means?

i mean he JUST came to the conclusion that he and GT were mislynches because mafia didnt do anything. He then immediately turns around and says palmar is scum because he did stuff. It happened too fast for it to make sense from a scum perspective, at least I think I would personally be far more aware of whats coming out of my mouth.

There is this thing where you are trying to push an idea which is not true in the first place so it's more likely you fuck up something when people ask you questions and demand answers which you have not thought about already.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:47 GMT
#2295
On March 21 2014 07:45 Holyflare wrote:
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On March 21 2014 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time?

I don't understand what this means?


because mafia roll over and die when they get called out

No they don't.


that was so beyond sarcastic i have no idea how it has gone so far over your head

i was being beyond your beyond!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:48 GMT
#2297
On March 21 2014 07:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote:
djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time?

I don't understand what this means?

i mean he JUST came to the conclusion that he and GT were mislynches because mafia didnt do anything. He then immediately turns around and says palmar is scum because he did stuff. It happened too fast for it to make sense from a scum perspective, at least I think I would personally be far more aware of whats coming out of my mouth.

There is this thing where you are trying to push an idea which is not true in the first place so it's more likely you fuck up something when people ask you questions and demand answers which you have not thought about already.

Yeah, but to me it looks like he's trying to work things out instead of stumbling through his previous narrative.

Well he said:
"mafia did not try to push anything"
"Palmar is mafia because he pushed GT"
"mafia had no thread precense"
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:51 GMT
#2298
If mafia had no thread presence it should be Hopeless, Slam and idk someone but not Palmar who is mafia in Djodref's mind. Because Palmar actually did have thread presence and is capable of pushing lynches in general.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:52 GMT
#2302
Don't worry you have plenty of time Djodref. Don't base your scumreads in some scenario which you can't know is true in the first place (GT's alignment). Just re-read and lay out the reasoning why you think scummers are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:55 GMT
#2309
Why do i have a carrot?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:56 GMT
#2312
no it's a rotten carrot
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