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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 12:32 GMT
#3461
Clearly I should just not post so I dont get lynched, ala djo/slam
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 23 2014 12:33 GMT
#3462
you can talk about the game instead of whatever you're doing
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 12:36 GMT
#3463
What do you want to know thrawn?
I gave a list post a while back. Still pretty much the same.
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 23 2014 12:38 GMT
#3464
need reasons for your reads
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#3465
Be more specific thrawn.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 12:43 GMT
#3466
You cant just say, "Produce content now".
You gotta have questions that make you think Im scum dont you?
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 23 2014 12:52 GMT
#3467
k
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 12:59 GMT
#3468
K what???
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 23 2014 13:03 GMT
#3469
idk. i am too tired.

it's not my job to tell you what to post so that you can look townie?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 13:07 GMT
#3470
No, but its your job to find out whether Im scum or not.
And apparently you dont give a shit now that Im actually here. Wonderful thrawn. Wonderful.
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 23 2014 13:14 GMT
#3471
yeah but idk wtf to ask. because i'll ask you something, and you'll give me an unhelpful one word response

i think i've asked this same question several times already, just framed differently each time and you haven;t ansewred. we need to see as much of your thoughts on the game as possible. the problem is that you've spent most of the game talking about djo, and since your alternate lynch is slam then there's not much discussion that can happen about your scumreads. soo.... I guess you can answer the questions I asked earlier?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 23 2014 13:43 GMT
#3472
Top notch oats. I'll be at a computer in a short while. Guess what I'll be drawing when I get there.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 23 2014 13:46 GMT
#3473
On March 23 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm actually i couldn't find it. Maybe i am misremembering something.
Out of curiosity how do you know Sentinel balances teams?

I thought someone said so but I can't be assed to find it. Not important anyways.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 13:47 GMT
#3474
On March 23 2014 22:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah but idk wtf to ask. because i'll ask you something, and you'll give me an unhelpful one word response

i think i've asked this same question several times already, just framed differently each time and you haven;t ansewred. we need to see as much of your thoughts on the game as possible. the problem is that you've spent most of the game talking about djo, and since your alternate lynch is slam then there's not much discussion that can happen about your scumreads. soo.... I guess you can answer the questions I asked earlier?

You want me to give reasons why everyone else in the game is town?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 13:47 GMT
#3475
On March 23 2014 22:43 Hopeless1der wrote:
Top notch oats. I'll be at a computer in a short while. Guess what I'll be drawing when I get there.

##vote Djo?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43266 Posts
March 23 2014 13:47 GMT
#3476
On March 23 2014 22:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm actually i couldn't find it. Maybe i am misremembering something.
Out of curiosity how do you know Sentinel balances teams?

I thought someone said so but I can't be assed to find it. Not important anyways.

Of course it's important because you are claiming it is a fact one of DP/Palmar/VE is mafia.

Oats what's the case on Djo? Noone is believing you atm so i think you should elaborate more on the case. Also why were you not happy when i shot mafia?
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 13:51 GMT
#3477
[image loading]
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 13:52 GMT
#3478
On March 23 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 22:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 23 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm actually i couldn't find it. Maybe i am misremembering something.
Out of curiosity how do you know Sentinel balances teams?

I thought someone said so but I can't be assed to find it. Not important anyways.

Of course it's important because you are claiming it is a fact one of DP/Palmar/VE is mafia.

Oats what's the case on Djo? Noone is believing you atm so i think you should elaborate more on the case. Also why were you not happy when i shot mafia?

I wasnt happy because you didnt shoot my mafia

I thought I quoted all the relevant posts somewhere for Djo to see. I guess not
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 23 2014 13:56 GMT
#3479
On March 20 2014 21:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 20:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
aw DP.

Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?


Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd.

Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago.

They could both be town or scum, just asking for a read.

I think Vivax is town I agree with palmar.

I dunno about Djo though, I actually think that he is purposely not participating in what is going on.


Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 23:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah this push is really bad by djo. Rayn is scummy for something you agree with? And you bring up way more townie points than scummy points on Rayn? Come on Djo.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why arent we lynching Djo?
He's calling people town for having a bad read.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 20 2014 09:49 Djodref wrote:
Before really going to bed this time, I just wanted to say that I really appreciated DP latest posts and especially this one after he read my filter.

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 09:29 DarthPunk wrote:
OK i just read Djo's filter and he acts super weird around his rayn 'read'

On March 19 2014 17:52 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:50 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 09:46 Coagulation wrote:
so does that make rayn confirmed scum or confirmed bad?


Rayn is pretty much town also. Do you really think rayn would fake this rage quit thing as scum? I don't. But I do think that he would care this much and be so convinced as town that he would do what he did.

So yeah. Kiss and make up cuties.

Although your hydra offends me and If I was a vig I would be viging you tonight no question.

Sadly I don't have a gun.


I'm catching up but I just wanted to mention that I think it is really an easy way to get an excuse to not contribute as scum. And if he was that much concerned about seals, regardless of his alignment, he could have mentioned it at this point (beginning of the game).
On March 19 2014 06:18 Coagulation wrote:
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VE also drew something similar and rayn didn't react at that point.

My point is, you shouldn't base your assessment of rain's alignment on this. It doesn't make him look good from my point of view.


His first post in and he is discrediting my town read of rayn which honestly is heavily influenced by playing with rayn a lot so I kind of like this post for a couple of reasons.

He is participating in a discussion of current events in the thread. He is calling someone scummy which in my experience of him he doesn't love to do as scum.
On March 19 2014 22:28 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:38 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote:
HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff
↑ People who are scummy.


How is Alakaslam scummy ?
And what about me also by the way ?

Give me your opinion on rayn in 2-3 lines pls.


I don't like how rayn is pushing his lynch targets, I think he is spending more time arguing for the sake of arguing instead of presenting sound arguments which would convince us to lynch Coag/Hopeless/GT with him.
The flip of Coag makes him look bad imo, given the time he spent arguing with him, and I don't understand why he didn't notice the drawn seal the first time if he was ready to AFK the game for it.
I don't understand what he has against Hopeless exactly and I wouldn't mind him explaining again. The scooby doo thing looks minor to me but I honestly don't want to read a previous game.
tl;dr rayn is rather scummy for me at the moment



More accusations of rayn. Even though I disagree with him I like that he is accusing SOMEBODY and that he is participating.

On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.


Here he is going from rayn is scummy to "actually I just didn;t want DP to give you a town read'

Don't like it. Djo in my experience hates taking firm stances on whom he thinks is mafia


His next post on the surface appears good and productive but it's kind of weird also at the start he makes some points about why he thinks rayn is 'suspicious' I don't necessarily agree with what he is saying but I like that he saying things and trying to scumhunt. The odd part happens after that.

On March 19 2014 23:24 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:
On March 19 2014 22:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref tell me, you have no idea of my meta so does it bother you you (who have not played wwith me) call me mafia for something and the people who have played with me do not call me mafia for it?


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.

I don't know if it's just me but to me it looks like that's exactly why you are calling me mafia.
So if you would clarify why you in fact are calling me mafia it would help me figuring out your alignment.


I'm suspicious of you for several reasons.
  • You pinned Coag as mafia for one useless post and a point about kush's meta.
    =>How could you be so sure it was kush posting ?
  • You spent a lot of time arguing with Coag and clarifying some minor points, and it was messing up the thread from my point of view.
    =>Why didn't you bring up new arguments ?
  • You announce that you go AFK because of the seal thing, when they were already seals drawned in thread way before
    =>Looked too easy for me
  • I didn't understand where Hopeless was lying.


That being said, the post of Coag was indeed scummy, but it is a little not enough much for me to spend so much time and thread space about it.
Also I don't think it's a good idea to lynch you today because of your activity and also because I don't feel like I could push a lynch on you. And you have good points about GT.
tl;dr I don't trust you, you are potential mafia on my list, but I would rather lynch someone else today.

Could you answer me why you chose to support an Hopeless lynch instead of a GT lynch ?



He goes here is all the reasons I think you are scummy. But here is the reasons I don't want to lynch you today despite, up until this point only talking about you bieing scum and nothing else.

He says he doesn't want to lynch rayn because he couldn't get the lynch off. Not because he has changed his read, because he still calls Rayn mafia in that same post, but then he wants to sheep rayn and both of the lynches rayn has been pushing. That makes no fucking sense at all.


On March 20 2014 08:56 Djodref wrote:
I have read the whole thread again and I don't think that rayn could be mafia anymore.
I don't like how Oats and thrawn voted me for the lynch with little justification. I would expect thrawn to be more active to push my lynch over GT as well.
I don't mind Koshi voting me that much because I believe he is town and I know I didn't do much.
I'd be happy to get behind a GT lynch today for self preservation mainly.
Also I wouldn't be surprised if we have at least 3 mafia members in the pool of less active players in this game. Which I'm fully aware of belonging to. I'm not mafia though
I'll try to give better input tomorrow before the lynch and also my paintings if I get behind a proper computer.
I got to go to bed now though but I'll hang around a little more.


See you tomorrow guys!


Later he says he doesn't think rayn is scum after all. He has done nothing but call rayn scum or argue with rayn the entire game, all of a sudden rayn is not scum due to a 'reread' what could he have possibly read to completely reverse his only scum read and the only thing he has spoken about all game?

He sheeps a wagon his precious number one scum read was pushing when he was his number one scum read.

Basically I want to lynch one of Djo or GT today. I want poofter to answer my fucking questions. Then I will be a happy panda.


It shows he is really trying to figure the game right now and I think it's a rather fair assessment of my filter.



His read on me is total shit. His explanation is not at all how it happened and I did the exact same thing as koshi did so why he calling me scum for it?
Like this post, he implies that I look town until me and thrawn vote
And to answer to thrawn, I need to see more from Oats to read him properly, he looked quite townish until he decided to put down his vote on me and went to bed.
As for you thrawn, I was worried about your activity level until you started to post more tonight. I have you more on the townie side with your latest posts. But this is as well downgraded by the fact that you have your vote on me

Which makes me think he is calling me scum for trying to lynch town but thats clearly not the case. The later explanations of our votes being not so clear is totally bullshit and backtracking.

The most convincing thing for me is that he accepts DP's analyzation of his filter which was that he was scum and even calls DP townier because of that.

Dp, tehpoofter is reasonably answering your inquires man, get off his back for today at least. Giggle or Djo?



On March 21 2014 06:54 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref and giggletummy.

What mislynches mafia tried to push throughout D1 and why?


Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it.
I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually...

Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help.
I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to.
In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything.

Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum.
In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case.

So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one.

I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players.

Man this post. I missed it. So Djo is defending GT here, but later he calls me scummy for defending GT. Double standard?

On March 21 2014 06:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
lynch the noob claimer. I hate noob claimers.

On March 21 2014 07:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont see what hopeless is seeing. Djo is making up theories and cant justify them. Also he hasnt said who is scum that doesnt have thread presence. Palmar has. He also hasnt given any proper reasons for anyone in the game to be scum. Its already n1

On March 22 2014 07:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
so bad.
Town djo knows how to make cases.
This is barely a case.

1. He pokes at my phrasing when its clear that the answer will be a read on Djo and Vivax so nothing wrong there.

2. I just checked, nobody was talking about Vivax. A lie. Lynch liers who lie to get people lynched.

No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 23 2014 13:57 GMT
#3480
On March 23 2014 22:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 23 2014 22:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 23 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hmm actually i couldn't find it. Maybe i am misremembering something.
Out of curiosity how do you know Sentinel balances teams?

I thought someone said so but I can't be assed to find it. Not important anyways.

Of course it's important because you are claiming it is a fact one of DP/Palmar/VE is mafia.

Oats what's the case on Djo? Noone is believing you atm so i think you should elaborate more on the case. Also why were you not happy when i shot mafia?

I wasnt happy because you didnt shoot my mafia

I thought I quoted all the relevant posts somewhere for Djo to see. I guess not

hmm. you agree it is strange to say though.
I was also partially sad GT flipped scum but I wasn't going to put a face in the thread about it. Cuz I was more happy that he flipped scum. But as scum you only have the unhappy feeling of not getting what you want.

Why were you only unhappy Oats?
I had a good night of sleep.
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