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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 22 2014 08:28 GMT
#3181
Thrawn/rayn pls dont be lame.
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 22 2014 08:29 GMT
#3182
On March 22 2014 17:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thrawn/rayn pls dont be lame.


then be town to me bby. 'member lxiii?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 22 2014 08:31 GMT
#3183
So much <3 thrawn.
Rayn, the fact that gt flipped gf adds nothing to your case. You shot gt for scum, not for gf so stop shooting your mouth off like you intended to shoot the gf
No gg, No skill.
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 22 2014 08:32 GMT
#3184
are you mad at rayn?
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 22 2014 08:33 GMT
#3185
Heh punny
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 22 2014 08:34 GMT
#3186
Not really. How can I be mad at someone so silly
No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 22 2014 08:37 GMT
#3187
I bet slam is scum. There is not enough scummy people without putting slam on a scum team.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 22 2014 08:40 GMT
#3188
lets all vote him then

[image loading]
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
March 22 2014 08:49 GMT
#3189
haha, rayn will go ape shit for not lynching oats. But we are far ahead so i'm down.

[image loading]
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 22 2014 10:12 GMT
#3190
On March 22 2014 09:31 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 08:57 Palmar wrote:
Holyflare getting shot gives the DP=scum theory more credence, but I dread having to wade through that filter.


What? Why the fuck would I shoot holyflare if I was scum. That was a perfect anti-town argument. Holy was clearly not getting me lynched and that would have been great for me to shit up the thread with him if I was scum.

Chill I did not say I wanted to lynch you, it's just something worth noting.

I don't believe in associative evidence anyway so you're fine.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 22 2014 10:12 GMT
#3191
I think we should lynch VE.
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 22 2014 10:43 GMT
#3192
Does his obsessive town claiming make you think so palmar
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 22 2014 10:45 GMT
#3193
Hey palmar, do you think im the towniest town that ever towned?
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 22 2014 10:48 GMT
#3194
To clarify the case:

On page 69 VE posts this:

On March 20 2014 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 05:57 Palmar wrote:
On March 20 2014 05:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
rayn I'd like you to explain why you think thrawn is town. HF raised a really good point about thrawn leaving DP off his PoE list earlier and I don't really know how you missed that. It's pretty blatant.


Seriously I'm getting like no respect this game.

My point about thrawn's third town read being absolute horseshit is far better.

Palmar you haven't mentioned a single point I've raised about anyone or anything. I don't care if you're butthurt about not being listened to, at least you're being townread for it. I'm being scumread by people who should know better and you don't hear me bitching.


I immediately respond (same page)

On March 20 2014 06:01 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 05:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 20 2014 05:57 Palmar wrote:
On March 20 2014 05:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
rayn I'd like you to explain why you think thrawn is town. HF raised a really good point about thrawn leaving DP off his PoE list earlier and I don't really know how you missed that. It's pretty blatant.


Seriously I'm getting like no respect this game.

My point about thrawn's third town read being absolute horseshit is far better.

Palmar you haven't mentioned a single point I've raised about anyone or anything. I don't care if you're butthurt about not being listened to, at least you're being townread for it. I'm being scumread by people who should know better and you don't hear me bitching.

Who is scumreading you?


Slightly later in the same conversation VE mentions my read on him being shit, when I point out that I don't really have a read on him at the time, he clarifies that he means a historical read.

On March 20 2014 06:34 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 06:27 Palmar wrote:
On March 20 2014 06:18 VisceraEyes wrote:
What are you talking about rayn? Talk to me if you have a problem with me, not Palmar. Palmar's read on me is shite.

What is my read on you?

I'm curious, cause I don't really have one at the moment.

I'm talking about historically - the last two games we've played together you've called me scum in spite of my contributions. Just because you can't recognize good logic when you see it doesn't mean I'M bad, and just because I'm not posting as much as you'd like doesn't make ME wrong. I'm not referring to your read on me in this game, I'm referring to your "read" on me in general. It's pretty abysmal bro, no offense.


When I read the post above, I think it is pretty clear VE is aware that I don't have a read on him this game. This is important for later.

I poked VE to answer my simple question, or what should have been a simple question, both on page 116 and 134.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21034421
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21036082

In the end I manage to extract an answer. This is VE's initial answer.

On March 22 2014 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 17:59 Palmar wrote:
VE still hasn't answered me who was scumreading him at the time.

The reason I'm so insistent on getting the answer is that I don't think anyone was. In fact if I recall correctly people were being like super reasonable about him being afk, and then he comes back moaning that people have a scumread on him, which seems like massive oversensitivity about his own alignment.

If this is what you're referring to, all of Giggletummy, tehpoofter, yourself and rayn (implied, not explicit) thought I was scum.


So apparently the 4 people thought he was scum. I'm going to concede two of them to VE. Poofter did in fact draw that venn diagram with VE on the scummy side, and rayn sort of flip-flopped back and forth on VE throughout the day (I cba checking rayn's enormous filter to see if the timing matches up).

The other two, I have shown to be false, and in fact, now I have also demonstrated that VE was at the time fully aware that I did not have a scumread on him (based on our interaction where he starts shitting on my historical read on him). I had forgotten about that part when I was trying to not yell at him during the night.

For readability's sake I'm not going to quote post for post the interaction during the night, but here's the post where I summarize and link to the posts where I show that he is incorrect about GT and me calling him out.

On March 22 2014 02:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE can you answer Palmar about the people you said were suspicious of you at the time he pointed out?
Who were those people and why did you think they were suspicious of you?


He already did, his answer was here:

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 01:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 21 2014 17:59 Palmar wrote:
VE still hasn't answered me who was scumreading him at the time.

The reason I'm so insistent on getting the answer is that I don't think anyone was. In fact if I recall correctly people were being like super reasonable about him being afk, and then he comes back moaning that people have a scumread on him, which seems like massive oversensitivity about his own alignment.

If this is what you're referring to, all of Giggletummy, tehpoofter, yourself and rayn (implied, not explicit) thought I was scum.


Which I have shown to be false
here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21039285
and
here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=21039393

He is indeed right that poofter called him mafia, so there's that.


Ve responded by showing more people that were calling him mafia, to further back up his point:

On March 22 2014 02:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 19:15 thrawn2112 wrote:
yeah i'd lynch ve

Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 02:14 thrawn2112 wrote:
i'd probably lynch out of this group right now

4. djodref
6. VisceraEyes
8. Vivax
15. Alakaslam

Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
Anyway game ez.
1. thrawn2112: town
2. DarthPunk: town
3. Hopeless1der: dunno
4. djodref: scum
5. Holyflare: town
6. VisceraEyes: dunno
7. raynpelikoneet: town
8. Vivax: scum
9. Coagulation: bench of shame
10. tehpoofter: dunno
11. Oatsmaster : town
12. GiggleTummy :town
13. Koshi: town
14. Palmar: town
15. Alakaslam: town

So we lynch into
Hopeless/poof/djo/Ve and we will win the game.

Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 12:03 Tehpoofter wrote:
[image loading]


This is where I'm at. I'm bad at sizing votes so ill recap.


Town: Me, Koshi
Mafia: VE, Thrawn
Fence From scummiest to least scummy, Coag, Darthpunk, Palmer, Rayn, Holyflare

Reasons to come for some of them except VE, he is my most scummy because he tells me hes good then doesn't talk at all bump that lurking bullshit.

Like, you can say that I'm just making shit up all you want - the fact of the matter is that several people have stated that they would lynch me - people of questionable intention. That was my observation, it wasn't a fucking lie, and you're bad for pursuing this to this point. I've spent a half of an hour on this bullshit that I could have spent filtering people or talking to people but instead I'm doing this asinine bullshit because you've now convinced rayn of something that's completely untrue.


I'm not going to go into detail, but he is entirely correct about thrawn, he had already mentioned poofter, but the Oats part comes on page 90-something, so it's irrelevant for the original claim.

I'm not going parse the yelling VE did at me during the night, if he's mafia he's an asshole for antagonizing me and if he's town he's an asshole for assuming I won't take reasoning.

Like the point is that, if VE at any point just said "Oh, guess not that many people were scumreading me, my bad!" or anything in that direction, I'd have been okay with it.

But instead he defended his stuff in the past based on things that aren't true, and when I pointed that out he threw out more stuff that isn't true, all the while antagonizing me throughout the entire game.

Dude's mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 22 2014 10:57 GMT
#3195
On March 22 2014 19:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey palmar, do you think im the towniest town that ever towned?

No, I think that title belongs to me, or koshi, but you'd have to ask him.
Computer says mafia
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 22 2014 11:01 GMT
#3196
On March 22 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2014 15:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
My case is Oats is not happy with vigi shooting mafia godfather.
That's so bad he has to be mafia.

How about djo flipping means im confirmed town + we lynch giggle today anyway.


How can you be so sure I'm mafia ?

@poof

Regarding HF's kill, there are possibilities

1) DP is mafia
2) mafia wanted to frame DP
3) mafia hated like HF's spam -> joke

I personally don't think it's 1 because scum DP would have tried harder to push other lynches than GT and Vivax ones.
The truth I should look closer on how he tried to push your lynch, and also a closer look on DP and HF cases on general, but that's a fuckton of work and I hope the game is going to be solved by cop or better players before I have to do that.
Also I think the priority is to lynch Oats today.

On a side note, I would say that mafia use the Luger on HF and the real kill on Koshi. Rayn was getting protected for sure so you want to shut down another town hero. If that's the case, I don't think HF kill is so relevant.
But it means that Koshi list could be more threatening to mafia than, let's say, Palmar's list...

Interesting...
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
March 22 2014 11:19 GMT
#3197
[image loading]
Computer says mafia
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 22 2014 11:20 GMT
#3198
Everyone thinks your case is shit djo. Why arent you making new posts?
No gg, No skill.
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 22 2014 12:09 GMT
#3199
thrawn2112
DarthPunk
Hopeless1der
djodref
Holyflare
VisceraEyes
raynpelikoneet
Vivax
Coagulation
tehpoofter
Oatsmaster
GiggleTummy
Koshi
Palmar
Alakaslam


Here is the information that everyone has. We could let the cop claim and play imba "follow the cop" from here now that mafia RB and mafia GF and Luger are out. I think we have enough mislynches to get all the info we need. Right ?
We could start a MS paint drawing contest instead !
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 22 2014 12:20 GMT
#3200
It doesn't work if the cop is Slam though...
But if the cop gets red check or even the scummiest town players around confirmed, we cannot lose this game. And it will force the mafia to snipe the doc, meaning rayn and koshi stay alive longer.

Thoughs ?
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