EPTIII Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition - Page 143
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raynpelikoneet
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Palmar
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Holyflare
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VisceraEyes
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On March 22 2014 01:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: VE do you think Djo looks better than Oats? I do - mainly because of the point he raised against Oats regarding Vivax. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Holyflare
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On March 22 2014 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: No we lynch the guy who knew Vivax' alignment before flip. After this guy (shoot this guy) | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2014 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote: I do - mainly because of the point he raised against Oats regarding Vivax. On March 22 2014 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not from the top of my head. Here is the problem; I want Djodref to go to the point of the game where Oats changes his mind and votes for Vivax. He needs to tell us why does mafia Oats do that because only doing that does not make him mafia. town Oats changes his mind all the time. mafia Oats needs a reason to bus Vivax and if Djodref calls Oats mafia he must give the reason why Oats did that as mafia when he did. VE okay, if you think that is the case can you instead explain this? | ||
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Palmar
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VisceraEyes
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2014 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote: The reason Oats does that is it's almost certain at the time of Oats' vote switch that Vivax is going to be the lynch unless I'm misremembering. Yes town Oats changes his mind, but the fact is that there was nothing new said - there was no further explanation of the point. Oats DISAGREED with your theory, full stop. Then he voted for Vivax, in such a way that it seemed like he never doubted your read of the situation. Is it or isn't it? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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On March 22 2014 01:28 Palmar wrote: My problem is not activity VE, it's the fact that I think you lied about people scumreading you. I never lied about anything. You're wrong. If I'm exaggerating, then that's one thing - a thing I do ALL THE TIME REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT. But at the very least Giggletummy and poofter had me as scum, and those were the "iffy people" I was referring to when I made the statement I assume you're questioning. You're wasting a LOT of time on this when I'm here interacting with the thread and participating in discussion - all things you've been bitching about me NOT doing all game long. I don't have to tell you how frustrating this is. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Djodref (who Oats is on) - (3) Giggletummy - (3) Vivax - (2) | ||
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Holyflare
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VisceraEyes
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I still think the switch is weird, but yeah the timing isn't what I thought it was. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2014 01:40 Holyflare wrote: Anyone that thinks vivax wasn't gettimg lynched the moment you brought it up is bad at the game rayn So why did you defend him if it was useless? | ||
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VisceraEyes
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Djodref
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On March 22 2014 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote: The reason Oats does that is it's almost certain at the time of Oats' vote switch that Vivax is going to be the lynch unless I'm misremembering. Yes town Oats changes his mind, but the fact is that there was nothing new said - there was no further explanation of the point. Oats DISAGREED with your theory, full stop. Then he voted for Vivax, in such a way that it seemed like he never doubted your read of the situation. I just want to add that this is exactly what is expressed on his drawing he made here. On March 20 2014 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Y3KYUt5.png) At this point, scum Oats has realised that everyone was going to see that Vivax was scum given the damning evidence presented in the thread. He isolates here HF in his drawing while he was making roughly the same argument with the filters just a moment before. At first read, I found it a little unfair to HF, but I think Oats wanted to be part of the "EVERYONE" because he realized it was going to be a successful and unstoppable wagon. | ||
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Holyflare
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On March 22 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why did you defend him if it was useless? I wanted to make sure because what you were saying "he lied about page numbers" didn't necessarily make him mafia and that's why i said you were a tool because the thing you linked didn't make him mafia. It wasn't till you fully explained it that i understood. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2014 01:42 VisceraEyes wrote: If we assume that Djo is town in that situation then there's no reason for scumOats to switch. If we assume that Djo is scum then there's even less reason for scumOats to switch. I don't like ruling people out for suboptimal plays or whatever, but yeah it seems unreasonable to assume that Oats is scum based on the switch. That's why i don't like Djodref. He picks something that "looks bad in theory" without explaining the scum motivation behind the action. The fact IS that Oats does this ALL THE TIME as town and it DEFINITELY does not make him mafia unless there is some explained scum motivation behind it, which i do not see. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 22 2014 01:42 Djodref wrote: I just want to add that this is exactly what is expressed on his drawing he made here. At this point, scum Oats has realised that everyone was going to see that Vivax was scum given the damning evidence presented in the thread. He isolates here HF in his drawing while he was making roughly the same argument with the filters just a moment before. At first read, I found it a little unfair to HF, but I think Oats wanted to be part of the "EVERYONE" because he realized it was going to be a successful and unstoppable wagon. How can you say it's damning evidence because at the time you didn't YOURSELF think it's damning evidence and neither did about 8 other players? | ||
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