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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 20 2014 22:01 GMT
#2241
On March 21 2014 06:57 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also nothing in that posts says who he thinks is scum.


Calm down a minute and try to work with my assumptions plz
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:02 GMT
#2242
On March 21 2014 06:54 Djodref wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref and giggletummy.

What mislynches mafia tried to push throughout D1 and why?


Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it.
I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually...

Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help.
I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to.
In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything.

Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum.
In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case.

So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one.

I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players.

So who do you think is mafia?
In your scenarios you basically present an argument that mafia are in high volume posters but didn't do anything to push their preferred lynch. How does that make sense?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 20 2014 22:02 GMT
#2243
This makes 0 sense. What does GT's alignment have to do with your alignment? Why are you spending your time defending GT instead of finding scum?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 20 2014 22:03 GMT
#2244
I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all,

Everyone pushed you so you dont feel like there is scum in the game at all?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:03 GMT
#2245
On March 21 2014 07:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all,

Everyone pushed you so you dont feel like there is scum in the game at all?

ahahah
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Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 20 2014 22:05 GMT
#2246
On March 21 2014 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2014 06:54 Djodref wrote:
On March 21 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Djodref and giggletummy.

What mislynches mafia tried to push throughout D1 and why?


Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it.
I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually...

Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help.
I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to.
In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything.

Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum.
In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case.

So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one.

I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players.

So who do you think is mafia?
In your scenarios you basically present an argument that mafia are in high volume posters but didn't do anything to push their preferred lynch. How does that make sense?


No, I think mafia didn't disrupt the thread or didn't feel like they needed to.
I wouldn't be surprised if Slam was mafia right now. Maybe Oats, maaaaybe Palmar...
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 20 2014 22:06 GMT
#2247
Why am I scum??? You never responded to the accusations about you properly too.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 20 2014 22:07 GMT
#2248
also contradicting statements.
I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all,

I wouldn't be surprised if Slam was mafia right now. Maybe Oats, maaaaybe Palmar
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:08 GMT
#2249
Okay now we got to something. Why do you think those people are mafia?
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 20 2014 22:08 GMT
#2250
On March 20 2014 10:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
1 of DP/HF I think
VE has a slight chance but I have him as town atm
poof/vivax/djo is a clusterfuck to me...at least 1 i guess
GT has my vote
and then slam hasnt posted anything


On March 20 2014 10:38 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 10:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 20 2014 10:24 Hopeless1der wrote:
On March 20 2014 10:23 Tehpoofter wrote:
On March 20 2014 10:20 Hopeless1der wrote:
1 of DP/HF I think
VE has a slight chance but I have him as town atm
poof/vivax/djo is a clusterfuck to me...at least 1 i guess
GT has my vote
and then slam hasnt posted anything



Why 1 of DP/HF?? No way they're both town/maf in your eyes?

small chance of bus i guess but the amount of bs in the thread because of the early game makes me think one (and only one) of them is scum.

So it's impossible they are both town?

no, but i think one of them is town...for the reason stated, the amount of early game bs and sustained shitshow.


I want to point out these wise words of insight from god of reads (but for some reason sheeping) hopeless


he's been on my case all game, he even defends dp and says what dp's actions mean before dp does:

On March 20 2014 23:31 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 20 2014 23:29 Holyflare wrote:
On March 20 2014 23:26 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 20 2014 23:24 Holyflare wrote:
What benefit does mafia have from lying about a god damn fact checkable page number? You flat out unvoted a 100% scum suspect confirmed liar to vote someone who agreed with you but was afk because you were sheeping sentiment and said nothint about his case that followd your logic now the second someone says something aboit page numbers not adding up you unvote from your 2 TOP scum reads because...? Oh yeh page numbers totally scum slip ggggg so much pro skill here.

What you don't say and what rayn didn't say is that the reason he could be mafia because of the page number thing is that he picked 2 targets abd used their filters to make cases thus the age numbers do not make sense because he was grasping at straws to make cases. You do not do that. You don't play this game like a towny.


I mean that is a good point. But why are you (Vivax) making cases then without reading the whole fucking thread? especially taking shit out of the context that you could not possibly understand, cause you know, he hadn't read that part of the thread.



Which is what you did with your unvote before fact checking. Also the fact that what you said makes it even more unlikely for him to be scum because why lie about a page number so why are you voting him straight away?

rayn alleged that vivax had lied. DP was receptive to it and unvoted until things could be verified. Its a show of good faith that he is considering the allegation and not dismissing it as absurb.


why at this point was it between me or dp? why not just me? his "clusterfuck" with the ... at least 1 I guess is also super fucking weirdly worded "....at least 1" when 1 has flipped mafia already (pretty sure djo is too) it looks like he just lumped together some scum and said at least 1 and he didn't elaborate on that bit at all ever but just said it was a clusterfuck so he doesn't know

then he throws ve into the mix?? he has a town read on ve A TOWN READ ON VE OK so why mention him as a slight chance at all??? to town read someone is to mean that they aren't scum as he said here:

On March 19 2014 22:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You NEVER explain why you think Coag is town. NEVER. In any of those posts Koshi.

he was constantly explaining why coag was not scum. In light of the fact that there are only two alignments in the game, a binary function of notscum=town should apply.


yet ve is there...?

I can see hopeless and ve being a team in this game because ve's dealings around the vivax lynch were super weird and antsy (but why would scum do that you ask! - short answer, meh dunno) but it was just weird, like a panicked person that just returned to see their rber being lynched
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 20 2014 22:09 GMT
#2251
On March 21 2014 07:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
This makes 0 sense. What does GT's alignment have to do with your alignment? Why are you spending your time defending GT instead of finding scum?


GT's alignments and mine are connected because we were the main lynch targets for quite a long time during D1.
If one of us is scum, then mafia should try to push the other lynch, right ?
I'm not scum, so I wonder my lynch was not pushed that much over GT's one. Do you see the logic ?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:10 GMT
#2252
That is in fact really weird. "VE has a chance of being mafia but i think he is town".
What does that even mean?
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 20 2014 22:14 GMT
#2253
Well I'm town. Rayn explain the actual reasons you think I'm scum and I'll try and explain myself. I feel like showing /you/ that I'm town and taking myself off your plate is going to be a huge boon for town going into tomorrow.

Just don't say "Just find scum" because people say shit like that to me all the time when I /am/ and /have been/ looking for scum.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 20 2014 22:15 GMT
#2254
On March 21 2014 07:07 Oatsmaster wrote:
also contradicting statements.
Show nested quote +
I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all,

Show nested quote +
I wouldn't be surprised if Slam was mafia right now. Maybe Oats, maaaaybe Palmar


I'm not sure about you being mafia or not atm. You have decent reasons to have voted for me but you could answer my questions anyway. I'm trying to figure out your alignment ok ?
What made you vote Vivax over me ?
When did you get what rayn pointed out about Vivax ? Because your 180 was rather quick.

On March 20 2014 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
He might have used filters.

On March 20 2014 23:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
Thats probably what he did.

On March 20 2014 23:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn, its far more likely that he used filters to make his case rather than lying.

On March 20 2014 23:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
[image loading]
If Vivax was town and thought that Hopeless/thrawn was scum before he made the case, he would have posts to analyze from before that point. Which he didnt as I understand.
Scum!

VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 20 2014 22:15 GMT
#2255
Like I realize I'm not "on your plate" already because you're leaving that for someone else - but I think it will add clarity to your thoughts if you don't have that nagging suspicion of me going forward if that makes sense.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:18 GMT
#2256
On March 21 2014 07:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well I'm town. Rayn explain the actual reasons you think I'm scum and I'll try and explain myself. I feel like showing /you/ that I'm town and taking myself off your plate is going to be a huge boon for town going into tomorrow.

Just don't say "Just find scum" because people say shit like that to me all the time when I /am/ and /have been/ looking for scum.

I think there are some weird things you have said in this game like the GT stuff that i still don't fully get and the Vivax thingy at the end of D1. You have not been very productive in my opinion, although this does not necessarily mean you are mafia. On the other hand when you post the way you post reads very townie to me and all this confuses me a lot.

So there is not much i can say other than i would like you to participate into discussions more if that's possible.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
March 20 2014 22:20 GMT
#2257
[image loading]
Djodref
Profile Joined September 2012
France3332 Posts
March 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#2258
@DP

Why did you unvote a few minutes after rayn posted his first post about Vivax inchorence ?

On March 20 2014 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VIVAX:
You said you were on page 40 when you stated your scumreads were Hopeless/thrawn.
However in your cases you present later every piece of evidence you point out happens after page 40.
Should i lynch you for this? And if not, why? Because i think you are full of shit.



On March 20 2014 22:57 DarthPunk wrote:
##unvote

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#2259
Djodref i am more interested in why you think Slam/Palmar are scum.
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
March 20 2014 22:22 GMT
#2260
If anyone is aware of a scum game where HF goes HAM all fucking D1 can you link me plz?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
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