Do you guys think that mafia gumshoe would bump himself just to bump rayn? I mean there's not really anything to gain from that unless he could put one of his own guys (probably Oatsmaster) into a better position.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:10 GMT

#943

But why would a scum gumshoe care so much whether or not raynpelikoneet gets Universal Backup or not? It really doesn't matter because of it's not raynpelikoneet, it's someone else and unless they're mafia it makes no difference.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:11 GMT

#946

rayn speaking about marv not me

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:12 GMT

#949

And.... what does he gain from that? Even if he succeeds and we lynch Oatsmaster then all we lost was a Universal Backup with a leftover powerrole and we will know for 100% sure that his leftover rolelist was bad.

And if we decide that Oatsmaster isn't scum then he didn't gain anything at all.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:14 GMT

#953

But why does he have a very strong need to get Universal Backup lynched at all? Can't he just ignore him?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:15 GMT

#956

raynpelikoneet seems to think so?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:16 GMT

#957

wtf how is it more likely that oats fucks up a copy/paste than it is that you do it

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:20 GMT

#960

Yes, I pointed this out myself.

But it seems like you want to lynch gumshoe for not reading and understanding the plan and being dumb about it all, I don't think scum would do dumb things for giggles.

raynpelikoneet seems to want to lynch gumshoe for bumping him but I don't think that he can explain what motivation a scum gumshoe has for bumping him.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:34 GMT

#973

Why is it a problem to trust Oatsmaster if, as you say, it is in both a town and a scum Oatsmaster's interest not to lie?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:36 GMT

#974

No one even knew for sure that Oatsmaster would get Universal Backup.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:42 GMT

#977

On March 06 2014 20:39 marvellosity wrote:
prplhz are you going to do anything else this game than hard-defend people doing suspicious things? Just curious

Dunno, we'll see.

From my point of view the case against gumshoe just looks like this:

marvellosity's argument: He is trying to piss off a town leader as much as he possibly can, we don't know why though.

raynpelikoneet's argument: He is trying to deny me a role, but denying it to me isn't really going to make that much of a difference.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:46 GMT

#979

On March 06 2014 20:43 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

Yeah. This pretty much stands.

The answer to this question is so obvious that you wont give it to me?

Or you don't know the answer but you assume that there is one?

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 11:52 GMT

#983

On March 06 2014 20:47 marvellosity wrote:
There doesn't have to be an answer beyond what is written...

On an objective basis, moving a town leader from spot 2 to spot 12 is simply a good thing.

But is it worth it at the expense of pissing everybody off?

raynpelikoneet himself says it doesn't much matter where Universal Backup is.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

March 06 2014 12:05 GMT

#986

Okay so scum gumshoe saw that raynpelikoneet was leading town and then he decided to find whatever reason to mess everything up for him. Then he used a flaky meta read to ruin his pick and hoped people would not lynch him for it?

Well okay.

##Vote gumshoe