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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 09 2014 02:37 GMT
#2301
On March 09 2014 11:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Plumber is town because there isn't a scum assassin that gets an extra kp that goes through jk protection resolving exactly as night ends on the same night as his first shot as well as preventing a shot on gumshoe or a scum assassin that has a busdrive in the game.

LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
March 09 2014 02:48 GMT
#2302
So a scum assassin with an KP kp is implausible, but so a scum vig with an extra Kp or a Joat Bus driver is perfectly reasonable?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 09 2014 02:52 GMT
#2303
Two extra nk on one role of which one is instant and the other isn't and some way to prevent kp on gumshoe (why would he even want to do that?) is indeed more implausible.
A scum joat that can use multiple powers is actually reasonable because it fits within the context of the role. A busdrive role would not fit with the context of an assassin at all, and the alternative is really really implausible.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 02:59 GMT
#2304
Wait... I thought LSB can only use his power once (pick one power, use it, that's it). Or can he use each one of his possible powers once? I'm confused.

My opinion on Artanis's plan will depend quite a bit on how that works.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 09 2014 03:04 GMT
#2305
On March 09 2014 11:59 Xatalos wrote:
Wait... I thought LSB can only use his power once (pick one power, use it, that's it). Or can he use each one of his possible powers once? I'm confused.

My opinion on Artanis's plan will depend quite a bit on how that works.

I believe it's the latter.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 03:12 GMT
#2306
On March 09 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 11:59 Xatalos wrote:
Wait... I thought LSB can only use his power once (pick one power, use it, that's it). Or can he use each one of his possible powers once? I'm confused.

My opinion on Artanis's plan will depend quite a bit on how that works.

I believe it's the latter.


I think it's the former but I asked geript just to be sure. If it's the former, we should definitely lynch LSB. If it's the latter, we should probably lynch prplhz. I just don't see how gumshoe could be scum with a (modified) Veteran role. Also he's probably modkilled soon enough or if he returns, his explanation would clear up the situation significantly. I see no good point in lynching him today (and he's quite likely not even Mafia based on the night actions).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 09 2014 03:16 GMT
#2307
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 03:18 GMT
#2308
Now I must go to sleep, but we'll figure things out tomorrow!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 09 2014 03:18 GMT
#2309
On March 09 2014 12:12 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 12:04 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On March 09 2014 11:59 Xatalos wrote:
Wait... I thought LSB can only use his power once (pick one power, use it, that's it). Or can he use each one of his possible powers once? I'm confused.

My opinion on Artanis's plan will depend quite a bit on how that works.

I believe it's the latter.


I think it's the former but I asked geript just to be sure. If it's the former, we should definitely lynch LSB. If it's the latter, we should probably lynch prplhz. I just don't see how gumshoe could be scum with a (modified) Veteran role. Also he's probably modkilled soon enough or if he returns, his explanation would clear up the situation significantly. I see no good point in lynching him today (and he's quite likely not even Mafia based on the night actions).

Gumshoe is unlikely because of role, but his play this game has been so abysmal. Taking all the roles out of the game he is the clear lynch. Prplhz actually has played a pro town game throughout and I find it difficult to see him as scum as well given how he's tried to figure out the game. Even LSB has a few things in his favour (austin hard defending him to try to look good). That's why gumshoe has to die.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 09 2014 03:19 GMT
#2310
Also officially longest filter in the game, suck it marv.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
March 09 2014 04:15 GMT
#2311
Just a reminder. Do not talk about host-player interactions. Also, any questions I answer will be what your alignment is privy to.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 09 2014 04:30 GMT
#2312
#worsthostna
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 10:10 GMT
#2313
Okay, once JOAT uses *any* ability once, he becomes a vanilla. So LSB should have no more powers if he used an ability last night (which he claims).

I don't think gumshoe is particularly the most likely Mafia based on play. He was just as useless in GoT Mafia as town. I do agree that prplhz is less likely to be Mafia based on play (he would have bussed yamato+austin during D1, for example...). LSB is IMO the most likely Mafia based on night actions AND play so I see no reason not to lynch him. Now we also know that your plan is faulty so there's no role-based reason to spare LSB.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 10:49 GMT
#2314
So let's consider the advantages of lynching LSB/gumshoe.

LSB:
+ Scummy play and scummy D1 vote
+ Most sensible role theory for N1 night actions as scum
+ gumshoe is probably getting modkilled anyways

gumshoe:
+ His death wouldn't at least lose us anything
+ His death would possibly reveal us more about the situation (if he's a normal Veteran, then either prplhz was lying or gumshoe was bus drived)

I say we do it like this:

1) Vote LSB for now
2) If gumshoe comes back just to ninja vote, we lynch him - otherwise he gets modkilled so no reason to lynch him
3) Lynch LSB/gumshoe
4) ????
5) profit!

I'm fine with a compromise like that. gumshoe has it coming if he just ninja votes once more.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 11:05 GMT
#2315
I have no idea why gumshoe even signed up for this game though. I hope we would have had WotC or something to prevent it.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 11:07 GMT
#2316
I'm a bit tempted to lynch gumshoe just so that he couldn't possibly win if he has some super OP role...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 11:11 GMT
#2317
Although it makes no difference if he'll just be modkilled in any case.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 11:22 GMT
#2318
gumshoe, get over here!!!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 09 2014 11:24 GMT
#2319
He's been very active in the other game today as well....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12970 Posts
March 09 2014 12:16 GMT
#2320
Alright, if it's one power once per game we lynch LSB
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