Either strong alterations to roles have been made or townies have not done as they have been instructed. I can tell you I wasn't one of the people who was in the last group. How can you be so sure?
Answer: You can't. Stop being dumb Palmar.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

March 08 2014 12:25 GMT

#2166

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

March 08 2014 13:02 GMT

#2167

Gumshoe, I summon you!

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

March 08 2014 13:44 GMT

#2168

We need to set up a plan that allows us to solve the game. We also need to presume scum has one shot that goes through jails or takes precedence over them, unless you believe I'm scum. Rayn and Marv got shot not because of their roles but because of their ability to organize town, so now we need to step up and organize shit and solve the game before it turns into anarchy. Anyone here?

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

March 08 2014 13:47 GMT

#2169

Also I'm gonna consider dt checks as confirmed town because we've already had a gf flip and having scum with that many powers would be bullshit, so Xatalos and Oats are confirmed town.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 08 2014 13:54 GMT

#2170

I wouldn't say it's completely impossible since this many power roles are otherwise quite town-favored.

But of course I know I'm town and Oats is 100% confirmed town to me (he has no role so he couldn't possibly be immune to my check).

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

March 08 2014 14:00 GMT

#2171

I don't think any other PYP has been balanced that way though, usually they aren't organized which makes them balanced. Also looking at Austin's flip I doubt a scum power would be buffed THAT strongly.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 08 2014 14:09 GMT

#2172

bro im 100% town unless I somehow get 2 powers from nothing.
even disregarding the check.

I really dont think scum is palmar so its the rest. We dont get anymore checks which sucks. I dont know exactly how we confirm more townies man.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 08 2014 14:13 GMT

#2173

Let's see... Here are the remaining players (the roles are almost all confirmed, the colors are at least semi-certain):

LSB - joat
Xatalos - dt
Palmar - ass
Artanis[Xp] - jk
gumshoe - vet
Hopeless1der - vigi
prplhz - day vigi
Oatsmaster - vanilla

That leaves 4 sensible suspects for the last remaining Mafia:

LSB - joat
gumshoe - vet
Hopeless1der - vigi
prplhz - day vigi

gusmhoe hasn't really done anything, but sadly I can't expect more from him as town. Null.

LSB claims to have greenchecked me. It would be risky to do as scum, since he would have no way to defend himself if I redchecked him. Slightly town.

prplhz claims to have shot gumshoe, but gumshoe still lives.

Hopeless also claims to have shot gumshoe.

The most likely explanation is that one of them is lying. It's probably Hopeless. They both also have the most dangerous roles in the hands of scum.

So what I propose is:

Palmar shoots Hopeless
If the game still continues, we lynch prplhz
If the game still continues (which I find very unlikely), we kill gumshoe and LSB

I find it very unlikely that we lose this way.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 08 2014 14:15 GMT

#2174

yeah probably.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

March 08 2014 14:29 GMT

#2175

On March 08 2014 21:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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I'm not being dumb. It's illogical to think that one vigilante role is out of sync with all others, it's much more likely that scum vigilante would be unblockable.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 08 2014 14:30 GMT

#2176

I think Artanis should roll a 50/50 RNG between jailing Oats or me. Scum will otherwise almost certainly shoot one of us, but in that case they might shoot Artanis. And if we kill Hopeless and he's town there should be no more than 1 KP at night anyway.