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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 12:03 GMT
#2161
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 12:03 GMT
#2162
##Vote Shoot Hopeless
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 12:05 GMT
#2163
were the variations on the roles determined pregame?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 12:06 GMT
#2164
I second the hopeless shot
No gg, No skill.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 12:08 GMT
#2165
On March 08 2014 19:37 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 11:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Order says it goes over factional kp.
I'm guessing a scum vigilante gets priority over my jailkeeping?

This is not the case.

Either strong alterations to roles have been made or townies have not done as they have been instructed. I can tell you I wasn't one of the people who was in the last group. How can you be so sure?
Answer: You can't. Stop being dumb Palmar.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 12:25 GMT
#2166
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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 13:02 GMT
#2167
Gumshoe, I summon you!
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 13:44 GMT
#2168
We need to set up a plan that allows us to solve the game. We also need to presume scum has one shot that goes through jails or takes precedence over them, unless you believe I'm scum. Rayn and Marv got shot not because of their roles but because of their ability to organize town, so now we need to step up and organize shit and solve the game before it turns into anarchy. Anyone here?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 13:47 GMT
#2169
Also I'm gonna consider dt checks as confirmed town because we've already had a gf flip and having scum with that many powers would be bullshit, so Xatalos and Oats are confirmed town.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 13:54 GMT
#2170
I wouldn't say it's completely impossible since this many power roles are otherwise quite town-favored.

But of course I know I'm town and Oats is 100% confirmed town to me (he has no role so he couldn't possibly be immune to my check).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 14:00 GMT
#2171
I don't think any other PYP has been balanced that way though, usually they aren't organized which makes them balanced. Also looking at Austin's flip I doubt a scum power would be buffed THAT strongly.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 14:09 GMT
#2172
bro im 100% town unless I somehow get 2 powers from nothing.
even disregarding the check.

I really dont think scum is palmar so its the rest. We dont get anymore checks which sucks. I dont know exactly how we confirm more townies man.
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 14:13 GMT
#2173
Let's see... Here are the remaining players (the roles are almost all confirmed, the colors are at least semi-certain):

LSB - joat
Xatalos - dt
Palmar - ass
Artanis[Xp] - jk
gumshoe - vet
Hopeless1der - vigi
prplhz - day vigi
Oatsmaster - vanilla

That leaves 4 sensible suspects for the last remaining Mafia:

LSB - joat
gumshoe - vet
Hopeless1der - vigi
prplhz - day vigi

gusmhoe hasn't really done anything, but sadly I can't expect more from him as town. Null.

LSB claims to have greenchecked me. It would be risky to do as scum, since he would have no way to defend himself if I redchecked him. Slightly town.

prplhz claims to have shot gumshoe, but gumshoe still lives.

Hopeless also claims to have shot gumshoe.

The most likely explanation is that one of them is lying. It's probably Hopeless. They both also have the most dangerous roles in the hands of scum.

So what I propose is:

Palmar shoots Hopeless
If the game still continues, we lynch prplhz
If the game still continues (which I find very unlikely), we kill gumshoe and LSB

I find it very unlikely that we lose this way.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 14:15 GMT
#2174
yeah probably.
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 08 2014 14:29 GMT
#2175
On March 08 2014 21:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 19:37 Palmar wrote:
On March 08 2014 11:02 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Order says it goes over factional kp.
I'm guessing a scum vigilante gets priority over my jailkeeping?

This is not the case.

Either strong alterations to roles have been made or townies have not done as they have been instructed. I can tell you I wasn't one of the people who was in the last group. How can you be so sure?
Answer: You can't. Stop being dumb Palmar.

I'm not being dumb. It's illogical to think that one vigilante role is out of sync with all others, it's much more likely that scum vigilante would be unblockable.
Computer says mafia
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 14:30 GMT
#2176
I think Artanis should roll a 50/50 RNG between jailing Oats or me. Scum will otherwise almost certainly shoot one of us, but in that case they might shoot Artanis. And if we kill Hopeless and he's town there should be no more than 1 KP at night anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 14:30 GMT
#2177
Palmar you shooting Hopeless? Remember that there's a time limit on your ability.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 08 2014 14:31 GMT
#2178
On March 08 2014 23:30 Xatalos wrote:
Palmar you shooting Hopeless? Remember that there's a time limit on your ability.

I have plenty of time, geript is sleeping anyway I think.
Computer says mafia
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 14:32 GMT
#2179
The more I think about it, it almost has to be Hopeless. I just want to see him flipped :/
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 08 2014 14:34 GMT
#2180
tbh gumshoe hasn't posted for a loooong time, wonder if he's getting close to activity modkill zone.
Computer says mafia
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