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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 08 2014 11:12 GMT
#2141
On March 08 2014 20:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Those 4 people are the people that are possible mechanically to be scum

can you please go over them one by one and explain how it is mechanically possible for them to be scum with what happened last night?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 11:13 GMT
#2142
Nah xata did claim green on LSB. Ok.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 11:14 GMT
#2143
You and hopeless both have kp and claimed to have shot gumshoe but hes not dead. Gumshoe didnt die. Lsb might have many many powers.
No gg, No skill.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
March 08 2014 11:16 GMT
#2144
On March 08 2014 20:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
You and hopeless both have kp and claimed to have shot gumshoe but hes not dead. Gumshoe didnt die. Lsb might have many many powers.

so you can't go over the people who it is "mechanically possible" for to be scum and explain how it makes sense with last night's actions?

okay
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 11:18 GMT
#2145
? I just said how. And you or hopeless has an rb.
No gg, No skill.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 08 2014 11:20 GMT
#2146
LSB checked xatalos - Green
Xatalos
marvellosity roleblocked... no one? (hopefully)
Palmar
Artanis[Xp] jailed marv
gumshoe
Hopeless1der - shot gumshoe
prplhz - shot gumshoe (dayphase)
Oatsmaster

There are two contradictions here. Marv shouldn't be able to die because Artanis jailed him and jailing has super high priority. and gumshoe should be dead from the two shots.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
March 08 2014 11:22 GMT
#2147
##Vote gumshoe

we lynch gumshoe, I think that much has to happen. no reason for me to kill him.

I guess I need to murder someone today too.
Computer says mafia
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
March 08 2014 11:35 GMT
#2148
Day 2 Votes

Hopeless1der (1): Artanis[Xp]

Not Voting (7): LSB, Xatalos, Palmar, gumshoe, Hopeless1der, prplhz, Oatsmaster

Day 2 ends in:
You have until then to lynch a player.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 11:39 GMT
#2149
I checked Oatsmaster and he's town. Although it's pretty much useless information now since he doesn't have a role and there's no way he could have accomplished what happened last night anyway.

It's pretty hard to analyze what happened when the remaining Mafia player almost definitely has some slight/moderate modifications to his role. I guess it could be even a PGO that killed marv when marv visited him. It's too bad that marv didn't say who he was going to RB.

Another option is that Hopeless's Vigi shot gained a power-up (for example: "ignore protection"?). But in that case he would have more likely shot me, so dunno.

LSB basically confirmed me regardless of his alignment. It wouldn't make too much sense to do that as scum (if I checked him, it'd be instantly GG). He also seemed confident that I would return green if I checked him. I guess there's a small chance that scum has another GF effect, but it doesn't seem too likely for now.

It's possible that Artanis is scum based on the actions (if JK somehow changed to having KP), but unlikely based on his play so far - and also unlikely that a role would suddenly gain new KP.

I guess it would be best for Palmar to shoot Hopeless now and then we could see where that leaves us. I'm not sure about gumshoe. Doesn't him being alive mean just that someone (Hopeless/prhlhz) most likely didn't shoot him? Hopeless would make a lot more sense. But I guess we won't know that until Hopeless flips.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 11:44 GMT
#2150
gumshoe would make a lot of sense as Veteran -> PGO, but then again there's no way that marv roleblocked him.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 11:49 GMT
#2151
Based on actions I would be very confident on hopeless flipping scum but he has played a really damn good scumgame for his meta if he is. It worries me.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 11:49 GMT
#2152
Also PGO wouldn't survive bullets (probably).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 11:51 GMT
#2153
Maybe, but he needs to die in any case. And we can afford him to die even if he is town. Palmar, shoot!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 11:52 GMT
#2154
I agree that he needs to die, but ugh.
[worrying intensifies]
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 11:53 GMT
#2155
Don't worry so much. It'll be fine. I would be very surprised if we lost from this position even if we mislynched/shot a couple of players.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 11:55 GMT
#2156
Bleh.
I'm also quite sad gumshoe decided not to play the game. Many sad.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 11:57 GMT
#2157
Oh ok huh so its still the same 4 people. Or gumshoe is some sort of survivor and can roleblock + survive 2 shots + shoot
No gg, No skill.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 11:57 GMT
#2158
Tbh I was prepared for that. I already facepalmed in the pre-game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 08 2014 11:58 GMT
#2159
Oh wow I gained a new portrait!
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
March 08 2014 11:59 GMT
#2160
En taro adun, templar.
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