On March 08 2014 20:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
You and hopeless both have kp and claimed to have shot gumshoe but hes not dead. Gumshoe didnt die. Lsb might have many many powers.

so you can't go over the people who it is "mechanically possible" for to be scum and explain how it makes sense with last night's actions?

okay

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

March 08 2014 11:18 GMT

#2145

? I just said how. And you or hopeless has an rb.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

March 08 2014 11:20 GMT

#2146

LSB checked xatalos - Green
Xatalos
marvellosity roleblocked... no one? (hopefully)
Palmar
Artanis[Xp] jailed marv
gumshoe
Hopeless1der - shot gumshoe
prplhz - shot gumshoe (dayphase)
Oatsmaster

There are two contradictions here. Marv shouldn't be able to die because Artanis jailed him and jailing has super high priority. and gumshoe should be dead from the two shots.

Palmar

Iceland22631 Posts

March 08 2014 11:22 GMT

#2147

##Vote gumshoe

we lynch gumshoe, I think that much has to happen. no reason for me to kill him.

I guess I need to murder someone today too.

ObviousOne

United States3704 Posts

March 08 2014 11:35 GMT

#2148

Day 2 Votes

Hopeless1der (1): Artanis[Xp]

Not Voting (7): LSB, Xatalos, Palmar, gumshoe, Hopeless1der, prplhz, Oatsmaster

Day 2 ends in:
You have until then to lynch a player.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 08 2014 11:39 GMT

#2149

I checked Oatsmaster and he's town. Although it's pretty much useless information now since he doesn't have a role and there's no way he could have accomplished what happened last night anyway.

It's pretty hard to analyze what happened when the remaining Mafia player almost definitely has some slight/moderate modifications to his role. I guess it could be even a PGO that killed marv when marv visited him. It's too bad that marv didn't say who he was going to RB.

Another option is that Hopeless's Vigi shot gained a power-up (for example: "ignore protection"?). But in that case he would have more likely shot me, so dunno.

LSB basically confirmed me regardless of his alignment. It wouldn't make too much sense to do that as scum (if I checked him, it'd be instantly GG). He also seemed confident that I would return green if I checked him. I guess there's a small chance that scum has another GF effect, but it doesn't seem too likely for now.

It's possible that Artanis is scum based on the actions (if JK somehow changed to having KP), but unlikely based on his play so far - and also unlikely that a role would suddenly gain new KP.

I guess it would be best for Palmar to shoot Hopeless now and then we could see where that leaves us. I'm not sure about gumshoe. Doesn't him being alive mean just that someone (Hopeless/prhlhz) most likely didn't shoot him? Hopeless would make a lot more sense. But I guess we won't know that until Hopeless flips.

Xatalos

Finland9673 Posts

March 08 2014 11:44 GMT

#2150

gumshoe would make a lot of sense as Veteran -> PGO, but then again there's no way that marv roleblocked him.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

March 08 2014 11:49 GMT

#2151

Based on actions I would be very confident on hopeless flipping scum but he has played a really damn good scumgame for his meta if he is. It worries me.