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CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 15:59 GMT
#353
Also Moose whining that I'm not responding to his points on me is interesting since I know they're by definition terrible.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:09 GMT
#354
On March 06 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
Moose, please don't clutter this thread with the nonsense that you clutter games with. Tambo, please be civilized with regards to Moose. Mirks, I'm can't refer to you as Rick this game. DUCY?


On March 06 2014 05:04 Moose_ wrote:
Robik please refrain from worthless posts that proceed to do nothing for town. Thanks.


On March 06 2014 05:36 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:04 Moose_ wrote:
Robik please refrain from worthless posts that proceed to do nothing for town. Thanks.

are you mad that you got randed maf? is that why you're coming out so passive aggresively? I'd lynch the shit out of you and not think twice.


On March 06 2014 05:43 mirks wrote:
That same logic applies to you Robik


On March 06 2014 05:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Not true A5. It doesn't apply to me cause it is my standard game to be rude and obnoxious and aggressive (maybe even passive aggressive, i.e. my relationship with many DMers), whereas that's not the case with Moose, who I expect to be even more douchey and more aggressive without the passivity.


On March 06 2014 05:56 Moose_ wrote:
Currently you are using video logic mafia here on forums. Where i get to think way more before i type. So here expect a different play from me.


I'm just gonna read the whole thing and point out what looks bad for Moose, Thor or mirks or good for me (and own up to what looks bad for me re: Cruisete).

For example, here Robik comes at Moose about something stupid that no one ever would have cared about, and Moose gets super tilted immediately. It doesn't mean anything to say that a post does nothing for town (usually you'd say "us" by the way) but it's an especially odd response to what is at worst a bad joke. Then Robik says he'd lynch Moose and not think twice, which I earlier said couldn't ever have been true that early (I'm sure it was just pressure / essentially another joke) and we get mirks saying that "the same logic" - that logic is going on in these posts, seriously - applies to Robik.

???? Robik isn't being passive aggressive, he's going HAM, which is what Robik says. Then Moose jumps in again to complain that Robik is using video logic in a forum game, but really he's just using meta. Moose does have a point that you can't be expected to talk over each other all the time like you can in video, but it's still a pretty weird sequence that goes:

Robik: joke
Moose: defend self
Robik: attack
mirks: defend moose, attack Robik
Moose: defend self

and all of it seems out of place
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:10 GMT
#355
and I said this in a much sorter way two days ago
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:11 GMT
#356
On March 06 2014 06:42 mirks wrote:
Moose seems his usual self from what I can translate from video to text, and something is very off with robik. I'll have to verify with his past games if he normally plays this aggro.


Defending Moose again.

What's annoying is I know Moose is mafia so I'm going to draw conclusions based on that obviously, but Tambo of course you can't see that.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:13 GMT
#357
On March 06 2014 09:12 IAmRobik wrote:
Did you even read the thread Tambo? It was Moose who changed her mind...not me.


by the way Tambo, it's not that hard to mix up the names in a game, see above
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:16 GMT
#358
On March 07 2014 01:12 Moose_ wrote:
So my biggest issue with, "just waiting on people to reply" and never worrying about them is currently there is 2 people who have yet to post, if we probe each other all day here and start scum hunting within us eventually one will turn scum. What if the 2 people who have yet to post are the scum so we wasted all this time reading each other to get false reads. So although i am so for only reading the people posting unless they get replaced soon i am okay lynching them.


the bold part is basically just begging to mislynch either pretzel or me without having to look bad for doing it, and it's worse because like 5 posts earlier thor was pointing out that we'd just be replaced or modkilled anyway

also I can't speak for pretzel but I'm used to much, much faster games and I'm enjoying not having to refresh this all day, there was never any risk of me not posting (I mean I confirmed)
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:21 GMT
#359
On March 07 2014 17:26 mirks wrote:
I don't understand how sqrt comes to the conclusion that because I vote someone and give a reason for it that I am subtly trying to make town think shes mafia. Thats pretty overt imo, its also the same thing that sqrt is doing to me so I find it very strange that he would bring it up as logic against ME.

I don't really know what to draw from the interaction though. Maybe I'm wrong on cruisette and he KNOWS that?


mirks complaining about picking up heat from sqrt is hard to stomach since it's not like sqrt was actually overt. It was about as bold as it gets:

On March 07 2014 09:28 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Okay, let's take a look at Cruisette.
First post, she makes a post that makes no sense. This was due to an error where she skipped a page, and she said so herself.

Then she says she thinks moose is a townie.
Then she says she thinks moose is a mafia.

Very wishy washy, but if there's someone who I would believe has flippy reads, it'd be the person who skipped a page.


I read soft town.


What about Tamburni?
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 09:09 mtamburini wrote:
On March 06 2014 06:00 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:56 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Again, you guys have a bit of a understanding of how each other play, giving you guys the advantage. Now, assume if all of you are town. Because you're not paying attention to the other people, you will just fight each other, accusing such and such because of previous habits that only you guys know, and end up lynching each other. Then mafia win. However, if one or more of you are mafia, that guy (or guys) would probably try to get the people who know their habits and playstyles out of the way, trying to eliminate people who may find something slip from them.

this logic is good....maybe a little TOO good.

honestly, pretend none of us know each others' habits because most likely. Mine will be the same as my video mafia play, because I've played forum mafia for way longer and translated my forum game into my video game, whereas they're going in the opposite direction. Anyway, forgetting all that, what is your take on the interaction between Moose and me?


When I first read IAmRobik and Moose interactions, I was ready to lynch both of them cause I thought there would one between them for sure just based on the fact of them attacking each other. However that view changed once sqrt posted that their opinion on the matter was it was two towns fighting. I'd like an explanation on it as maybe you see something I dont. I am more inclined to sheep Roberts read on the situation and it sounds a little too good.


He was ready to lynch both Robik and Moose, but reconsiders after I say something. I'm willing to bet that if I didn't say that, he'd be perfectly fine to lynch both of them.

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On March 07 2014 01:55 mtamburini wrote:
My biggest problem right now is people wanting to lynch the players who have not talked yet, I think that is pretty scummy because they can be replaced and/or mod killed so if they are scum not participating thats great they will be modkilled and we will win that much easier. I feel like the people who are willing to lynch them are just picking on someone who cannot defend themselves making it seem like its a safe lynch.

With regards to Thorgear post it I feel like after 3 pages of posts they would have a lot more to give to us.

My question for Thorgear, you think sqrt is town for the questions hes asking. What do you think of his reads?

Inb4 robert post
inb4 Moose post

Doesn't want to lynch the players who haven't talked yet because they could be modkilled/replaced. Says he feels like the people who want to lynch them are just picking on people who can't defend themselves, which is possible. But I have a feeling he doesn't want them to be lynched because one of the people who are inactive are his affiliation.
I read soft mafia.

Moose simply seems like town. One thing that catches my eye is that he said he's gonna play a bit differently than in video mafia. Which shows that he thought how video mafia transfers to forum mafia. This could mean he's mafia, but pretty much everything else says otherwise.

I read soft town.

Robik seems like an experienced player. Mirks say that something's fishy about him, but if he's the experienced player he is, I wouldn't expect him to make a mistake like that.

I read soft town.

Mirks seems active, but most of his posts are short, and some of them seem like he's trying to make others lynch someone. For example:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 07:22 mirks wrote:
On March 07 2014 07:07 Cruisette wrote:
On March 07 2014 06:31 mirks wrote:
##Vote: Cruisette

Cruisette you are gonna have to enlighten me as to why your read on moose flipped back to mafia.




It's the way the Moose works. He's very gung-ho on lynching the AFK. He's fighting with town and causing a ruckus. Would you want to side with him or a more sane thoughtful town, Mirks?


You already sided with him, for the first half of your reason why he is now mafia.

I don't get how his fight with robert now makes him scum in your eyes when you used that fight to call him your top town?

He's subtly trying to make us think that cruisette is mafia.
I read mafia.
##Unvote
##Vote mirks
Sorry mirks. I wanted to be friends.

CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:24 GMT
#360
Oh I totally forgot about my read on sqrt because of the tinfoiling about people who know each other's video games eliminating each other because they'll have tells on the forum, if you want proof I'm town just look at that sick read yo again.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:27 GMT
#361
first game I've ever played where the voting literally doesn't matter

four of us are the four people who voted Cruisette, and no one else every got lynched
mirks voted sqrt, relatively obvious villager
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:33 GMT
#362
On March 10 2014 08:21 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
I think it probably is mirks, moose.
But it could be some other combination, like hoya you, or hoya thor, or you thor, but I think that if mirks is one of them, moose is the other. But it could be moose + someone other than mirks.


One possible explanation for sqrt getting nk'd
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:36 GMT
#363
On March 10 2014 08:45 CPHoya wrote:
Oh, I want to clear tambo because his posts make it clear he's trying to puzzle out the game and I feel I can understand his reads. Also he's taking the time to make long posts of his own accord instead of after being prodded. Also he popped in from work lunch with thoughts he was probably mulling over during work, which suggests he's probably just trying to solve a puzzle and wants to be heard. That's town to me.


On March 10 2014 08:49 CPHoya wrote:
And you is kind of just a tone read but whatever, you're similar to him and I think I can roll with that today.


On March 10 2014 08:50 CPHoya wrote:
Also mirks tried to lynch you on some shit I still do not understand and that he hasn't explained to me even though I've been asking.


And if I really have to defend myself here's me explaining my apparently correct read on you and correct read on sqrt (there was a long explanation about sqrt earlier as well, including the no one makes up that tinfoiling argument).
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:44 GMT
#364
On March 12 2014 11:19 mirks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2014 20:53 Moose_ wrote:


On March 07 2014 14:38 Thorgear wrote:
after going over everyone's reads, pretty much everyone has moose as town. i would like to hear what his reads are.


My biggest reads right now are that i really like sqrt and Thor you have really grown on me today. MY biggest issue with sqrt is he came out and gave a bunch of scum reads that seemed off from his own circles not sure how he can call all of tambo, mirksm cruise and some who has yet to post maf. I am sure he is just trying to make circles but i would like more clarification with this.



This is the only time moose has mentioned thorgear the whole game. "Thor you have really grown on me" and then he provides absolutely no reason for that and proceeds to ignore him for the rest of his game.


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On March 11 2014 01:42 CPHoya wrote:
Thor, do you remember what you were trying to say when you said "the last mafia"?

Also you have it wrong, my strongest mafia reads are mirks and Moose, not you. Not sure where you're getting that.


This is the only time hoya has mentioned thor, by accidently saying thor when he was speaking to moose.



So I can see either one being with thor.....


Bold is not true, I mentioned thor two or three times on day 1, calling him town for making reads I could get down with. I'll quote the posts in a moment.

This kind of thing bugs me because I have to fix it when something that isn't true ends up in the thread.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:44 GMT
#365
On March 12 2014 11:19 Moose_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 05:08 CPHoya wrote:
No, as you can see I assumed "night" would fall at real-life night and planned to just interact all day while I worked. You should expect me to participate normally from now on, which means you'll get plenty of me until I'm dead.


Was this a fake claim.


no, what?
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:47 GMT
#366
On March 12 2014 13:04 Thorgear wrote:
if tambo is cop it doesnt matter who i push cause he has a red check on one of them and will reveal that before he dies in the night. so in that world you wouldnt have to read on who i am pushing..


I'm sort of compelled to believe that Thor has to be town if he doesn't even understand how Ace works.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:51 GMT
#367
On March 13 2014 16:12 Moose_ wrote:
So today hoya has said nothing except that he is town lynch moose. He brought up the cop thing which i already stated earler.

He also avoided all my points against him that i had i think the lynch is quite obvious here guys lynch hoya than tomorrow we figure out this game in final 3.


I know this post is a lie in the first place but this part, from YOUR perspectives, isn't even true: I just re-read the entire thread, quoting important things as I went, and this never even happened.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:53 GMT
#368
The 1-1-1-1 voting is "bad" technically speaking but in reality it still leaves Tambo to hammer whoever he wants, I guess that's functionally the same as 2-2 between me and Moose.

Scares me that someone is just going to switch right at the end of the day.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 16:54 GMT
#369
Anyway I'm pretty locked in to mirks being the other one, he and Moose have now both just openly lied about my posts (never mentioned thor, Moose alleging he made some case against me) and Thor seems genuinely mixed up about Ace, so if Tambo isn't mafia I feel strong about tomorrow.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 18:40 GMT
#373
Thor you pretty much have to move your vote if Tambo doesn't show up. . .
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 18:49 GMT
#375
I was going to if no one showed up, but that's pretty lame since Moose is a lock.
CPHoya
Profile Joined February 2014
United States67 Posts
March 13 2014 18:53 GMT
#377
So now we just sit here hoping that thor and mirks don't vote me at the last second?
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