On February 13 2014 17:50 LoneMeow wrote:
So does the "kamikaze" logic hold water? Are those really town reads he can't back out of if you are lynched and flip town?
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On February 13 2014 17:43 suki wrote:
If I ignore his Day 3 'kamikaze no plan for the future' play, then he looks worse than LoneMeow, as per my case in N2:
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If I ignore his Day 3 'kamikaze no plan for the future' play, then he looks worse than LoneMeow, as per my case in N2:
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On February 13 2014 00:41 suki wrote:
Hopeless:
Hopeless is way more active than last game. I was going to say that this points to him being more town but actually thinking about it, he was pretty active at the end of Day 1 last game, active enough to convince people he was town. I was also going to say he's more light-hearted but actually his tone seems about the same (minus the reboot pic that he posted when his wireless conked out which is null imo).
He hard pushes Jay as the lynch on Day 1:
I actually liked the way he pressured and thought it was townie.
and then he randomly votes Jonny:
So yeah it's a bit strange. Pushes Jay the whole game, I'm stilll hard pushing Jay. Suddenly he votes Jonny with no explanation.
Hopeless then posts his big scum theory on me, which is the biggest effort he's put all game (and which I felt was a big point in his favour). However, scum COULD have written it so let's look into his follow up...
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He completely forgets about it.
That's really weird. Putting so much effort into calling someone scum and then not even following up. He gets sidetracked on Coag when thread sentiment is headed that way.
He also seems to still be seeing Jay as scummy, reaffirmed that Jay's quote was not a blue claim, but isn't pushing Jay either.
What about Hopeless' meta read on me? What about my 'bad' case on Jay? What about avoiding Jonny's scum games? About 'wait-and-see' with Jonny? Defending Jonny?
Somehow, Hopeless went from suki is scum I have a huge case with actual valid points to, 'i kinda still like suki for scum' with no explanation in between.
He also didn't talk about sidesprang yesterday and instead of pushing me or Jay just went with effectively a policy lynch.
Conclusion
I agree with Aqua, Hopeless looks a lot more scummy than LoneMeow. He's my number one scum read at the moment.
Hopeless:
Hopeless is way more active than last game. I was going to say that this points to him being more town but actually thinking about it, he was pretty active at the end of Day 1 last game, active enough to convince people he was town. I was also going to say he's more light-hearted but actually his tone seems about the same (minus the reboot pic that he posted when his wireless conked out which is null imo).
He hard pushes Jay as the lynch on Day 1:
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On February 07 2014 10:35 Hopeless1der wrote:
I dont like jayb..so forced and trivial. Like in a too-scummy-to-be-scum way.
I dont like jayb..so forced and trivial. Like in a too-scummy-to-be-scum way.
I actually liked the way he pressured and thought it was townie.
and then he randomly votes Jonny:
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On February 08 2014 23:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
Of course he disagrees with me, he's scum Koshi. /sarcasm
I may not be back before deadline, family stuff. I'll try to keep updated by phone
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On February 08 2014 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Not at all.
Did.you agree with Hopeless read on you?
How sure are you about jonny red flip?
On February 08 2014 23:17 Oatsmaster wrote:
I sheep all the time, I just dont say im sheeping
On February 08 2014 23:02 Koshi wrote:
You never sheep.
Was is dis?
You never sheep.
Was is dis?
I sheep all the time, I just dont say im sheeping

Not at all.
Did.you agree with Hopeless read on you?
How sure are you about jonny red flip?
Of course he disagrees with me, he's scum Koshi. /sarcasm
I may not be back before deadline, family stuff. I'll try to keep updated by phone
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##Vote: JonnyLaw
So yeah it's a bit strange. Pushes Jay the whole game, I'm stilll hard pushing Jay. Suddenly he votes Jonny with no explanation.
Hopeless then posts his big scum theory on me, which is the biggest effort he's put all game (and which I felt was a big point in his favour). However, scum COULD have written it so let's look into his follow up...
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..
He completely forgets about it.
That's really weird. Putting so much effort into calling someone scum and then not even following up. He gets sidetracked on Coag when thread sentiment is headed that way.
He also seems to still be seeing Jay as scummy, reaffirmed that Jay's quote was not a blue claim, but isn't pushing Jay either.
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On February 12 2014 08:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
i kinda still like suki for scum because of her meta-reading of sidesprang being so out to lunch.
i kinda still like suki for scum because of her meta-reading of sidesprang being so out to lunch.
What about Hopeless' meta read on me? What about my 'bad' case on Jay? What about avoiding Jonny's scum games? About 'wait-and-see' with Jonny? Defending Jonny?
Somehow, Hopeless went from suki is scum I have a huge case with actual valid points to, 'i kinda still like suki for scum' with no explanation in between.
He also didn't talk about sidesprang yesterday and instead of pushing me or Jay just went with effectively a policy lynch.
Conclusion
I agree with Aqua, Hopeless looks a lot more scummy than LoneMeow. He's my number one scum read at the moment.
So does the "kamikaze" logic hold water? Are those really town reads he can't back out of if you are lynched and flip town?