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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 11 2014 09:08 GMT
#1361
So koshi, why did scum put up scumrayn?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 11 2014 09:09 GMT
#1362
So koshi, why did scum put up scumrayn?
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
February 11 2014 09:13 GMT
#1363
Oats. It's %. Don't forget that.
Why would scum put up scumPalmar vs Townrayn vs marv?

I agree that it is unlikely that rayn is scum. The question is, is Palmar more useful than rayn later on? Good question.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:15 GMT
#1364
I'm awful beyond earlygame tbh. I'm quite good at day 1 reads usually, but beyond that I tend to just try to lynch whoever thinks I'm scum because I'm a dumbass and I think everyone should always know I'm town when I'm town.

I need to confirm this, but initial reading of rayn's filter makes me think it's very, very unlikely he's mafia. I'm even contemplating asking people to lynch me over him, if unwilling to lynch marv.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
February 11 2014 09:15 GMT
#1365
I think scum kinda really should have put up 3 towns who could be scum as well and are afkish. Like yamato, VE, Oats, Grack. Those names.

Feels like scummers might be people with no thread presence. And they are killing off thread presence. Don't know if Palmar is somebody people listen to in general but yeah...
I had a good night of sleep.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 11 2014 09:15 GMT
#1366
But you just said you think rayn ia scum. How does the palmarscum logic not apply to rayn too?

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 11 2014 09:17 GMT
#1367
Man im not getting all the normal feels from the people ive played with a lot
No gg, No skill.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
February 11 2014 09:29 GMT
#1368
On February 11 2014 18:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
But you just said you think rayn ia scum. How does the palmarscum logic not apply to rayn too?


I said it is like 5 freaking %. I am currently in a world in which from the 3 nominated players 1 HAS to be scum. That's where I go from and I try to pick the highest %.

It might sound like I actually think rayn is scum and maybe there is some wishful thinking going on but I DON'T really think he is scum.

First reaction:
Palmar? Why that guy between these guys, kinda sick if he is scum, many balls.
rayn? Ugh, he would dare it, but what would he win by getting Palmar lynched personally? Nothing much.
marv? Pff not lynching that guy at all, he looks extremely townie. Why the fuck is he even in here? I wouldn"t even WIFOM kill him.

Second Reaction:
Palmar? Ok no. Just too ballsy. Don't think about it.
rayn? Damn, not the biggest filter. Could it be? Could it be? tbh scum rarely kills off rayn D1. And it really is him or Palmar. Why scum why?
marv? Really, putting marv here is just wanting to kill the other 2 guys. So why do they want to kill marv/Palmar.

Third Reaction:
Let's look at filters.
Palmar. meh. Really scum this guy you want dead?
rayn. meh. It can't be that rayn is on the right path, he is on Cora and not really putting that much pressure on others. Why scum Why? rayn is hit or miss in his lynches. And so far it was miss.
Marv. didn't look yet. It's marv.
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:31 GMT
#1369
Maybe scum wants me dead because I want them dead (hi ve, geript etc)
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
February 11 2014 09:32 GMT
#1370
On February 11 2014 18:15 Palmar wrote:
I'm awful beyond earlygame tbh. I'm quite good at day 1 reads usually, but beyond that I tend to just try to lynch whoever thinks I'm scum because I'm a dumbass and I think everyone should always know I'm town when I'm town.

I need to confirm this, but initial reading of rayn's filter makes me think it's very, very unlikely he's mafia. I'm even contemplating asking people to lynch me over him, if unwilling to lynch marv.

There is a post of you out there that says geript, marv, VE, rayn, holyfare, yamato are scum. Oats/WoS town.

Could you explain those reads? and the progression to current times?
I had a good night of sleep.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:32 GMT
#1371
This conversation is making Kosher look pretty good btw, I like his train of thought.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:37 GMT
#1372
On February 11 2014 18:32 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 18:15 Palmar wrote:
I'm awful beyond earlygame tbh. I'm quite good at day 1 reads usually, but beyond that I tend to just try to lynch whoever thinks I'm scum because I'm a dumbass and I think everyone should always know I'm town when I'm town.

I need to confirm this, but initial reading of rayn's filter makes me think it's very, very unlikely he's mafia. I'm even contemplating asking people to lynch me over him, if unwilling to lynch marv.

There is a post of you out there that says geript, marv, VE, rayn, holyfare, yamato are scum. Oats/WoS town.

Could you explain those reads? and the progression to current times?


Gonna give you the brief version.

geript I think everyone understands why I want to lynch. Also notice how he has absolutely no presence in the thread since it became clear he wasn't getting lynched. He's like superscum and I still want to lynch him.

VE had, and still has no impact on the game and seems relatively content about it. He has driven no discussion or pushed no ideas hard. In general whenever I don't think VE is town, he's scum.

marv at the time had thrown out a really lazy read on Oats that may have been legit, but he made no effort to present it in concise enough manner for anyone to pick up on it. I gave Oats townie points and marv scum points for that interaction, although obviously my reads have changed since.

rayn I just felt like wasn't really saying much, and I think I was wrong now that I've spent some time reading him.

holyflare at the time was inactive.

WoS just writes so much... he's gotta be town.
Computer says mafia
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
February 11 2014 09:42 GMT
#1373
That's a fast answer. yay for you.

I am waiting on what rayn brings us. He was giving us 2 names after nominations but then gave us nothing and is now promising us 4 names. I wonder why he isn't content with his 2 certain names.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 11 2014 09:48 GMT
#1374
On February 11 2014 17:53 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 16:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
I could totally lynch yamato for that vote too


Let's discuss it for a bit, and for the moment let's assume I'm town, because that's actually important for the discussion at hand.

Why does this vote make yamato scum? Does it make sense for scum-yamato to do this? Given the assumption that marv is not the one who's going to die from the nomination, why on earth would scum-yamato place his vote on the one person that is most likely to be alive to give him a hard time later in the game.

I'm not saying he can't be scum, it's just food for thought.

For all these reasons. Why would he? For any sort of defence like this. What's important really isn't that he's voting for me, rather he shows a complete lack of attentiveness to the thread, work/schoolwork or otherwise.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 11 2014 09:51 GMT
#1375
On February 11 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote:
This conversation is making Kosher look pretty good btw, I like his train of thought.

Well done, you got there eventually.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:51 GMT
#1376
Here's some extra informations. I'm going to post what I thought of each player when I entered the game. (The game started I think on page 5 and I noticed it had started on page... 12? 13?). as these are my personal quick notes, I will mark anything I need to clarify in italics.

VisceraEyes
- he did that singyy thing.

This is probably the worst scumtell ever, but VE tends to do little nervous twitches like that when he's scum. I'm referring to this post:

On February 08 2014 09:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
I love town! And I hate the mafiaaaaaaaaa!


the drawn out aaaa at the end is to no one else but me a scumtell for VE. I don't expect anyone to buy this part, but hey, this is what I noted.


Rayn
- idk... first post maybe bad?

Can't even remember what I'm referring to. In hindsight there's nothing wrong with his inital post(s)

Alakaslam
- First post kinda bad
- Nice question about geript's vote thing.

WoS
- Kinda weird first post
- better later

Holyflar
- Good entrance ^^

I'm referring to this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20749533

geript
-instavotes weaklings

Vayne
- Good point about mutually exclusive, I'm a fan

This post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/postmessage.php?quote=113&topic_id=442512

Oats
- Good question but fairly generic, re: geript vote

Corazon
- idk

yamato
- opens only trolling, but always bad and aids anywaya

Risen
- flip-flopped on his own opinion immediately. looks good enough

I'm talking about this:

On February 08 2014 15:44 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2014 15:15 yamato77 wrote:
On February 08 2014 15:07 yamato77 wrote:
Slam trolling , alignment indicative?

The one game I thought I could read him as town he was mafia. Is his town play intentionally unreadable? Slam meta solved.

In case it isn't clear, I'm being sarcastic.

I'm more leaning towards Alaka/Cora being scum mates.


On February 08 2014 15:45 Risen wrote:
EBWOP: Nvm. Seems stupid now that I've aired the thought. Stupid because why would they do that? And not a why would scum do that but then they do it etcetc, just a why would anyone do that and no one is going to put thought into something like that.






yes I know some players are missing ^^

Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:52 GMT
#1377
Note those reads aren't up to date, it's what I felt 12 pages into the game. I'll add more current thoughts as I have time.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:53 GMT
#1378
On February 11 2014 18:51 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote:
This conversation is making Kosher look pretty good btw, I like his train of thought.

Well done, you got there eventually.


Got where?

Not much has changed, I've not wanted to lynch Alakaslam/Kosher the entire game.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36160 Posts
February 11 2014 09:54 GMT
#1379
Alright, is your masterplan to keep on pointing out how townies look townie or something?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2014 09:58 GMT
#1380
On February 11 2014 18:54 marvellosity wrote:
Alright, is your masterplan to keep on pointing out how townies look townie or something?


I don't understand, is this a bad thing?
Computer says mafia
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