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On February 08 2014 17:04 geript wrote: I read him right pretty early on in Sicilian I think it was; DrH didn't agree with me at first (I was shadowing). Other than inactivity nothing jumps out at me either way. What do you think of Cora? Also, this is ass. Inactivity? Lawl. | ||
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On February 08 2014 18:51 VisceraEyes wrote: I think voting analysis is going to be especially helpful in this setup in general. Plus I filtered you and looked for Alak instead of Slam. -.- Okay, you made me feels better for now. But to clarify, you would categorize everything Slam has done so far as trolling and non-alignment indicative? He said "this is going to be me this game" or something like that. It's "categorically indecipherable" Slam. Not "posts are in plain English" Slam. His Cora vote was trolling, and the rest of it is incomprehensible Spamaslam. | ||
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Didn't care for this bit: On February 08 2014 12:25 Corazon wrote: Alright, I will give it a break. I just thought the conversation about Geript was going nowhere, so I wanted to throw it out there. @Oats: 4 people in this game are scum. When I figure out who is scum, I'll let you know babycakes  Shoots down Oats for Oats' dumb "who is scum?" question, then On February 08 2014 16:22 Corazon wrote: Geript, when do you plan on actually trying to find scum? Just curious. Turns around and does the same stupid thing. I, unlike you, give him no townie points for the Slam questions because it was a silly thing to ask anyway. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: yamato, you were really good in the last nomination game if i remember correctly. I would say discussing townreads (or giving out townreads in general in a scale people usually do) helps mafia in the nomination phase, as they can more likely tell who would people vote for over who. Agreed? I said this last game and got yelled at for it, but yeah, I agree. Town should be quiet during the dawn about ANY reads, really. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:10 geript wrote: Fuck no. That's the question he's referring to. I remember this specifically from the podcast; I think you and Mocsta were all for it. It's dumb. That's another 24 hours we have to scumhunt and the nomination day is short. Fuck that plan and you're scummy for supporting it. No, it's smart play. There's no reason to let scum have any more information about your reads after the flip. Nomination days are literally the least useful days for scumhunting anyway. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:15 geript wrote: No... the plan was scum favored and scum helped push it. Ask VE. Whatever dude. | ||
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On February 09 2014 07:57 Corazon wrote: Yeah I really don't feel like defending myself. I'm just gonna wait for Yamato to reply to my message. Btw, you guys should look into Palmar's vote of Geript. Wouldn't it make a lot of sense for scum to try and rile up Geript for no reason? I did not equate your behavior with geript's, I equated it with Lats', and called you hypocritical for your response to Oats. It's that simple. If anyone else has anything they want brought to my attention, I'm going to be catching up within a couple hours. | ||
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On February 09 2014 02:02 Corazon wrote: I know this going to sound like a cop-out, but I don't have any scumreads right now. (This thought line only works for me) I know that because I am VT, people attacking me either have to be wrong or scum. Rayn- I think your attack of me hinges on the interpretation that Geript's play was pro-active rather than shitting up the thread. It's not scummy if you disagree with me. WoS- He is wrong too, but I feel like it is too much effort for scum to be attacking both me and VE at the same time in the effort of trying to make an association case. He's also trying to get opinions on his opinion, which tells me that he is looking for the right lynch, not the one that gives him a scum read to cling to. Yamato- This: Is just blatantly wrong. He calls me out without saying that my play has been useless/I'm shitting up the thread. He doesn't want to make these specific statements that I can easily disprove. My post to Geript was basically saying "When are you going to stop shitting up the thread" and he basically stated that I was shitting up the thread too, which is a complete lie. My behavior ≠ Geript's behavior, and it's pretty bad for Yamato to try and link them together. That is most of my thoughts on the game. I haven't seen too many egregious posts which also makes me think that we have another huge lurker scum team. But it's just a feeling. Another thing about this post is, why are you only focusing on the people attacking you? You do realize that the logic "I'm town therefor those attacking me have to be wrong/scum" is incredibly silly. If you're going to continue playing as you have, there's no reason for me to believe you. You're not even necessarily trying to find mafia with this post, you're just arguing that people who call you mafia are wrong. You're not even OMGUSing, you're just playing defensive and trying to survive. You did this SAME kind of thing in Quiet Game where you basically only argued with people that thought you were mafia. If you're not going to take any initiative and try to find things worth talking about, the simplest explanation I can come up with is that you're mafia hoping to just skate by unnoticed. Now I'll be reading the thread from the point of when I fell asleep last night in more detail. This was the most notable thing I read before I left for work, but inevitably there is more. | ||
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On February 08 2014 19:56 geript wrote: Looks like I was just misremembering. I only remembered this post: Thinking he popped in and then fucked off. Guess I'm going to have to start taking notes since reading and playing lol doesn't work Actually you've just shown you're not reading at all, basically. No need to start now! On February 09 2014 06:48 geript wrote: No this is blatantly false and Palmar's fucking scum for trying to push me like this. Everyone who's ever played with me should know like the simplest way to read me is by filter length. Marv explained it in LoL. It's been true every time. I fucking struggle like hell to post as scum. Palmar even fucking knows this; he played LXI or whatever one I was confrimed town in and my activity was shit for most of the game. Not only this, but Palmar is trying to skew my actions on Oats. Oats is generally pretty easy to read based on how much of a dick he's being in combination with his activity. As town, Oats is far more willing to get into shitfests at any moment and is far more active than he is as scum. Just like in LoL he wasn't a dick early, despite being given the option to get into a shitfest he's just avoided it. So yah, PALMAR IS SCUMB!!!!!!!!! Palmar is scum with Oats and is using his name to protect him just like Rayn does. This is also shit, as is the rest of this interaction from geript's side. Wouldn't mind lynching geript if this is how he's going to paly. On February 09 2014 06:05 Risen wrote: Why? This post is decidedly null. ##vote: Corazon Should throw this in now since plurality. This makes no sense. Why is it necessary in a plurality lynch to vote so early on, especially given how little Risen seems to be interested in actually talking about this read? Out of nowhere, Risen just goes "Yeah I think Cora is scum" and then waffles about lynching him, yet now just votes him because "plurality". Ooookay... On February 09 2014 10:37 Koshi wrote: Vayne is a pretty cool guy. Like a nice guy to have in your team as town. Cracking some jokes, saying smart things only he gets, you don't really want to lynch him but kinda want to lynch him cuz he is somewhat useless, stuffz like that. Seeing nothing of that atm. So I vote for VA. It's not all meta btw. He is also totes not doing shit this game. I generally agree with this post. VA is much less lighthearted as mafia, and this game is devoid of image macros and stupid jokes. As town lately, he has actually shown a penchant to try to find mafia, and this game he doesn't seem nearly as interested. On February 09 2014 14:53 Corazon wrote: Sorry for only talking about what I could talk about at that point in time. I even said there wasn't much I wanted to comment on. After that, I've talked about Koshi and Palmar so now you are just lying. GJ Yamato First of all, my post was about the post that I quoted, NOT anything else, so you are again misinterpreting what I've said. Second of all, let's look at what you've said about Koshi and Palmar. On February 09 2014 10:58 Corazon wrote: We could always lynch Palmar for going after Geript, because attacking Geript is a pretty easy thing to do as scum. This heavily implies you think geript is town. What makes you think that? What makes you think that Palmar is MAFIA for attacking geript for being terrible, even IF geript is town? This is a shallow read. On February 09 2014 11:18 Corazon wrote: Ok, now I have a problem with you shouting out "look how townie my slot is!" Any better reasons for voting out VA? This is the only thing you've said about Koshi. How is this a read? Cora, I fail to understand what you're trying to accomplish this game. As town, you try to scumhunt. This stuff does not satisfy that qualification. On February 09 2014 14:57 Oatsmaster wrote: I would lynch cora and rayn right now. Marv getting into stupid shitfests probably means he is town. How come nobody thinks im scum??? Oats, I agree about cora, but what exactly is Rayn doing that makes him mafia? I rather like that he and I generally seem to be on the same page. Also, Marv can get into shitfests as mafia. I withhold judging him until he actually decides to play the game. As of right now, he seems content letting others do the work for him, which tells me nothing about his alignment. | ||
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On February 09 2014 15:15 WaveofShadow wrote: Yamato do you think Cora is scum or not? You're harping on shit that has already been brought up: Or alternatively have a look at what I wrote about Koshi. Marv is the only person aside from Koshi himself who has bothered to talk to me about it. Also I just realized, we haven't heard from Holyflare and VE STILL hasn't answered my damn questions. This was the last I heard from him, I made my post and he hasn't responded to that OR the specific questions I asked him. Fuck this I probably should just assume marv is town every game and just lick his asshole because he's often the only one that bothers to read anything I write. Cora specifically said, "I am waiting for Yamato to respond to me". Kinda have to harp on that shit, bro. I'm on Koshi's side in the VA-Koshi dynamic. VA looks more like mafia than Koshi does. I don't understand the VE thing at all. Why is him being afk reason to vote him? Not thrilling, Wave. | ||
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On February 09 2014 15:32 Oatsmaster wrote: Nah marv plays cleaner as scum. I probalt need tp read rayn again but I didnt feel like he was.foimg anything What about Desert? He got into an argument early with me there and he was mafia. It's not an exclusively townMarv thing to do. | ||
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On February 09 2014 17:33 VisceraEyes wrote: I wasn't liking yamatos repeated "bored nothing happening will come back if ur lucky" crape earlier but that could totally come from town yamato and he has said some stuff that was okayish. He really isn't giving me much to work with, and his argument with Cora is making my asa twitch. What do you think? What do you actually think about Cora, VE? | ||
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On February 09 2014 18:02 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh okay I'll read it. You make me sad yamato. </3 If you're going to comment on my alignment, I'd prefer you actually read what I post. | ||
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On February 09 2014 18:09 Risen wrote: I read it I just can't remember what it was Nothing new, you haven't had a reason for calling someone mafia the whole game. | ||
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On February 09 2014 18:10 VisceraEyes wrote: Meeeehhhh...it's not really any different from what I expect from twonCora so far yamato. Like...you even said it, his only opinions are of people attacking him. He found you all so he's clearly reading the thread right? So he doesn't read as scum? That's a non-sequitur. What I said was, this is similar to how he was playing in Quiet Game, which is true. Also, his reads are pathetically shallow and he doesn't seem very interested in furthering them, either. When asked, he basically just said, "Yeah, I think he (Palmar) is scum but I'm not going to do anything until he comes back." Weeeeeeeak. No one but Palmar has been strongly pushing any of their reads and I'm tired of letting these low-effort players play like this. I mean, this town is like, drowning in nonchalance. Where's the impetus? | ||
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Defaulting to lynching Vayne would be a fine thing to do at the end of D1, but it would be much better if we put pressure on other players first. | ||
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