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Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 15:43 GMT
#2963
##Unvote: Palmar
##Vote Grackaroni
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 16:05 GMT
#2969
On February 18 2014 00:59 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 00:43 Grackaroni wrote:
And don't let his effort fool you. No matter how bleak the situation looks he will not stop posting until he's lynched.


If HF is scum, you're town and VE is town, why is HF arguing with me about lynching VE? Why isn't he happily lynching VE with me. That would allow him to continue tunneling you tomorrow, without having to deal with "having been wrong" in his case on you.

Because he has been buddying VE for a long time and can manipulate him.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 16:09 GMT
#2970
On February 18 2014 01:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 18 2014 00:31 Grackaroni wrote:
On February 18 2014 00:10 Holyflare wrote:
On February 18 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:
On February 18 2014 00:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
On February 18 2014 00:00 Palmar wrote:
On February 17 2014 23:50 VisceraEyes wrote:
You want to kill me off so that you can "trust my reads" while you're sitting here developing your own picture of how the lynches are going to go later. You don't give a shit about my reads. You're just blowing smoke up my ass so that I'm like "Oh well if Palmar thinks I'm town then it's okay for me to die. Herp derp."


Why do you assume I'm lying.

I'm begging you to work with me. I have no idea why you are so against it. Hell if you can prove to me Grack is scum, I'll lynch him today, but then you'd also have to explain why you didn't just vote him last nomination lynch over Koshi.

I really, really want to know who you think is scum, and why.

Can you please do this for me?

I've gone on and on about why I think yamato and Risen are scum. If you're at all interested in my reads you would know this. I'm afk until after this farce is over.


That's 2/3, and apparently I'm scum too.

Do you still think Risen is scum given his contributions in this last page? I agree with Holy they're basically worthless, but I also think they feel somewhat genuine, he has a thought process and he's following it.


anyone can rationalise a town thought process when doing lylo mathematics "i am town and these are all town reads so these must be scum" is the easiest thing in the world to do, the thing he isn't doing and what makes him scum is that he's not explaining these reads in detail and out loud and he hasn't done so the entire game hence why I keep trying to get him to do it and the only thing he returns to the thread to do is talk about the lynch order again (this is the 2nd time now, it happened yesterday after me and ve came to the conclusion he was scum)

That is your reasoning though. You have consistently argued that Risen and I are scum for trying to get a free mislynch while you were afking. And then you come back and say that this is the easiest kind of suspicion. This is very similar to you voting off somebody because you didn't think they would town read you, and then coming back before the lynch and conjuring up some bullshit that I would switch off Rayn because he wasn't trying to lynch me. (which from your point of view wouldn't make me scum because I would be choosing not to kill the guy who was doing the best job of reading me)

Less complaining about the lack of discussion more analysis.


It's as if I've done nothing OTHER THAN THAT the entire game.........!??!?!?!

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/edit.php?action=edit&post_id=2755&topic_id=442512&currentpage=1

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512&currentpage=140#2794

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442512&currentpage=141#2808

The whole past day I've been trying to discuss people that are scum with VE and you come in and do nothing and afk again and risen comes in says all my points were true and then afk's only to come back, call me scum, vote palmar and then switch to grack after I show him reasoning. Like wut, he's sheeping his scum read right now.

It's not a matter of doing nothing. You can't do something scummy and then yell, "but what about all the things I did." When you were set to be lynched you pushed a bunch of bullshit against me. And I don't see anything useful in there. You went on about me wanting to lynch you over Keir and that doesn't mean shit. You already had the votes and I was ok with either lynch. Chin up though. After I lynch myself you will be confirmed town.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 16:21 GMT
#2973
lol yeah that's fine, but then you tried to lynch somebody for supposedly trying to keep in Rayn when Rayn was doing the best job of reading me. That is the scum incentive. Bullshit reasoning to scum read somebody else in order to save yourself.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 16:24 GMT
#2974
You can't say both, "I wanted to keep in people that can read me, where is the scum in that!" AND "Look at the diagram! Grack votes Rayn because Palmar entertains him. *GASP* Now he thought about switching around the time that Rayn placed him in the center of his reads list. Such scum - get em boys!"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 16:26 GMT
#2975
I know you've responded to this with the, "Oh well I kept in people who have historically been able to read me. You tried to keep in somebody that was currently town reading you" (Which I didn't even do! For a long ass time Marv said I was his 2nd scum read and I stayed on Rayn over Marv!)

That's the exact same thing.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 20:01 GMT
#3012
I don't know what you guys are doing. I told you VE/Palmar are town. I told you that you should just lynch me. And I told you who to lynch after I flip.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 20:02 GMT
#3013
And yet we are still going through the same discussion of, "oh gosh what if Grack is scum. uggh we could have lynched him yesterday"
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 20:08 GMT
#3015
I'm quite sure. You can feel free to blame me if we lose - I'll just pass the blame on to Marv or Rayn hue hue hue.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 20:43 GMT
#3020
You can always lynch Yamato too. Lynching Yamato is funny and he will flip scum.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 20:50 GMT
#3022
what's that? Kill VE?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 20:53 GMT
#3024
No I was asking if that's what you were saying Yamato wants - lol
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 22:32 GMT
#3059
And Palmar. . . don't lynch VE if this goes another cycle.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 23:08 GMT
#3062
Oh yeah kill the HF
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 23:40 GMT
#3066
I agree Palmar. I was just so super townie and useful. A sad loss.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 23:40 GMT
#3067
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 17 2014 23:59 GMT
#3071
oh god lol.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 18 2014 00:00 GMT
#3072
VE is a drama queen
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 18 2014 00:03 GMT
#3074
##Unvote: Grackaroni
##Vote: VisceraEyes

Hammered Bitch. (I don't actually know the vote count)
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9857 Posts
February 18 2014 00:03 GMT
#3076
##Unvote: Grackaroni
##Vote: VisceraEyes
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