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Oatsmaster
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Hopeless1der
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On February 06 2014 00:44 Koshi wrote: What is your read on me? On February 05 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote: Because I do not get this worked up about a read as scum. I dont post this much as scum. I dont react this fast as scum. It is literally impossible for me to be scum atm. The part about him being scum.is.because he is not trying to read me. In bed atm sleeping. rings pretty true to me after SMB. On February 05 2014 01:54 Oatsmaster wrote: what. Balla called cake townie, I called him null, pretty much everyone in the game thinks hopeless should die so there is that.... I asked LM the questions first and I think he is town. This is blatant sheeping Oats. Asking beforehand makes it even more blatant. You can't deny the statement that your filter shows you sheeping thread sentiment. Furthermore, my point is more related to how you approached pushing my lynch. Oats can you explain your read on Koshi based on his posting at the time of your unvote? | ||
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Hopeless1der
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suki
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Balla24
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LoneMeow
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Hopeless1der Not much to go by. I don't really see a town purpose in posts like this: I don't see how my answer is in any way going to be alignment indicative for this game. No comment. [/QUOTE] On February 05 2014 13:55 Hopeless1der wrote: Oats, analyze this post and tell me what alignment slam is. Eagerly waiting to see his case on Oatsmaster. Verdict: leaning scum Oatsmaster Early posting, especially the Koshi push, earned him scum points. Later posts are better, he's now giving reads without being asked and making some sense. Verdict: uncertain cakemanofdoom Posting his opinions freely and making sense. Verdict: town Alakaslam He started off being somewhat incoherent (and very incoherent when his phone was acting up) which is what I've come to expect of him. Did not like his reaction testing much, but I'd argue it's slightly more likely to come from town Alakaslam. What worries me is that he's actually being quite active and making some sense in his later posting - I've never seen him like that as town. Verdict: uncertain, watch closely Koshi The fact that he's been defending me makes me suspicious. There should be no need to softly defend other townies when they're not even under imminent threat of being mislynched. The case he made on JonnyLaw was quite bad. I find it hard to believe he'd pay so little attention to miss things like: On February 05 2014 04:40 Koshi wrote: Then there is Jonny and his talk about LM: Just look at the progression: "How do you dare to vote LM, he said the most sensible thing in this thread" "LM his second post was really good, I didn't consider the other ones" "LM can be lynched" "LM posted like shit early game, but it really was Koshi his fault" It literally goes from this guy posted incredible pro town towards everything this guy posted was shit. And there is a post right after Jonny said "I can lynch LM" where Jonny give his scummy list and I am on top of the scummy list and not LM. In none of the quotes does JonnyLaw say "I can lynch LM". Almost like Koshi didn't even really read what he quoted. Verdict: leaning scum | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 06 2014 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote: Is anyone interested in chatting with me about cakemanofdoom? I assume this means you think he's not town? Why? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On February 05 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote: Because I do not get this worked up about a read as scum. I dont post this much as scum. I dont react this fast as scum. It is literally impossible for me to be scum atm. The part about him being scum.is.because he is not trying to read me. In bed atm sleeping. | ||
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LoneMeow
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
Most of the time he's arguing against lynching him, but in the back of my mind I feel like he'll just swap over whenever its convenient. On February 05 2014 04:15 cakemanofdoom wrote: Other things about oats feel more weird than scummy. Like with his insisting that you post your opinion first, I can imagine town doing that (I would probably have trouble reading someone who sheeped me) even if I'd prefer if he were open with his thoughts. Oats's contradiction with his stance on koshi's policy doesn't seem scummy to me. It's a bit hard to explain, I think it sorta makes sense for him to disagree with the policy, and assume that it was bad enough that it was meant to make scum slip while attacking it. Him saying that Koshi's policy was bad is a required step of explaining his thought process. Then again, I'm also not sure why he thinks town isn't just as likely to attack the policy if it's so bad. So yeah, I'm not convinced oats is mafia, but a response from him would be nice. And I really wanna get the super quiet people posting before lynching oats. The last two lines here demonstrate my point perfectly. He does a similar thing with Jay where early on, and for a decent amount of time + Show Spoiler + On February 04 2014 12:52 cakemanofdoom wrote: I think jay's townie. Some of his posts are way wordier than they need to be imo, but I like most of his reasoning, and that seems more important than whether or not he's posting fluff. On February 05 2014 13:46 cakemanofdoom wrote: I don't want to lynch jay today. He's posted too many sensible things that I don't want him gone yet. I also think that it's pretty reasonable to focus on generating discussion and getting reads rather than posting cases and trying to get people lynched, especially when it's still early on in the game. I'm willing to lynch LM. Mostly because of lack of content. The questions he asks aren't too bad, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything with his answers. At this point I'd prefer lynching hopeless, nothing even on the level of LM's questions yet. I think Koshi might be scum. He started off with a policy meant to generate discusison, cool. But the next time he enters the thread, he explicitly claims that he's just gonna be lurky and let others talk. Seems like he's trying to get away with non-contribution, and wasting most of his day 1 by being cryptic. He ended up posting a case on Jonny, which was bad and atm it looks like Koshi doesn't stand by his own case. Jonny's actions regarding the LM vote actually do make sense. Koshi also accuses Jonny of having a scum mentality for talking about his own waffling... even though Jonny was responding to a question and Koshi thought that too. I don't know why Koshi also has a defense post. But it doesn't seem to me like he's that worked up about a read, and it doesn't feel like he's posted all that much (well, his filter is kinda long. Main reason I'm not totally convinced he's mafia). I can't believe his claim about fast reactions in my position. "Jay is town, we probably should lynch jay" (those posts are ~24 hours apart) And then 1.5 hours later waffles like he's at an IHOP On February 05 2014 15:10 cakemanofdoom wrote: I think Koshi is mafia. My last post went over why. I'm starting to think jay might be mafia. He seems to spend a lot of time defending himself, not as much looking for mafia. Still don't want to lynch him soon since he's so much more active than some people. His main case was on LoneMeow, which I didn't like that much; I really don't find much that's especially scummy about LM. Not too sure yet, this will probably be greatly affected by how jay posts from now. LoneMeow and Hopeless were lurky. Can't really tell if they're mafia from that, but they're fine lynches. Hopeless's more recent posts don't seem very substantial. Bad sign imo. Need to think about/read alaska and suki more. I thought suki was mafia for a bit, then she seemed to post and try. Once again: "Jay is town because...." On February 05 2014 13:46 cakemanofdoom wrote: I also think that it's pretty reasonable to focus on generating discussion and getting reads rather than posting cases and trying to get people lynched "Jay is scum because...." On February 05 2014 15:10 cakemanofdoom wrote: He seems to spend a lot of time defending himself, not as much looking for mafia. Jay never posted in between these two posts. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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Hopeless1der
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On February 06 2014 01:10 Oatsmaster wrote: hopeless why you make me feel bad about calling you scum because you had no basis for calling me scum and now you feel foolish for trying to go for the easy mislynch. Sorry oats, better luck next time. You gonna explain your read on Koshi this time? Thats the non-omgus part of my case. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On February 06 2014 01:13 Hopeless1der wrote: because you had no basis for calling me scum and now you feel foolish for trying to go for the easy mislynch. Sorry oats, better luck next time. You gonna explain your read on Koshi this time? Thats the non-omgus part of my case. oh its this that made me change my mind, it was mainly a pressure vote to get him to start playing. On February 05 2014 08:18 Koshi wrote: Because I do not get this worked up about a read as scum. I dont post this much as scum. I dont react this fast as scum. It is literally impossible for me to be scum atm. The part about him being scum.is.because he is not trying to read me. In bed atm sleeping. | ||
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suki
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For example, against LoneMeow: I wanna see more posts from LoneMeow. His first post doesn't seem very alignment-indicative to me; just a throwaway comment. Response to the vote is a decent explanation. Aside from that, his only post is about how post quality is more important than number of posts. True, but overall he's made too few posts/contributions for me to read him. That puts him more scummy than not. I'm starting to think jay might be mafia. He seems to spend a lot of time defending himself, not as much looking for mafia. Still don't want to lynch him soon since he's so much more active than some people. His main case was on LoneMeow, which I didn't like that much; I really don't find much that's especially scummy about LM. Not too sure yet, this will probably be greatly affected by how jay posts from now. LoneMeow and Hopeless were lurky. Can't really tell if they're mafia from that, but they're fine lynches. Hopeless's more recent posts don't seem very substantial. Bad sign imo. Meh. Maybe, I guess. Actually, I don't really care right now. I'm fine with lynching Hopeless either way. ##Vote Hopeless1der Going to sleep. I'm also fine with lynching LM and Koshi. This whole set of comments on LoneMeow.. He wants to see more from LoneMeow, he doesn't like jay's case against LoneMeow but LoneMeow is lurking so he's ok to lynch. He just seems like he's trying to play it safe and under the radar. | ||
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Oatsmaster
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suki
Canada1159 Posts
On February 06 2014 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote: oh its this that made me change my mind, it was mainly a pressure vote to get him to start playing. Sorry, what? If it was mainly a pressure vote why do you spend the entire first part of the game repeating that Koshi is scum? | ||
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LoneMeow
Finland1396 Posts
On February 06 2014 01:09 Hopeless1der wrote: Once again: "Jay is town because...." "Jay is scum because...." Jay never posted in between these two posts. If you look at both of the posts in their entirety they're far less damning: On February 05 2014 13:46 cakemanofdoom wrote: I don't want to lynch jay today. He's posted too many sensible things that I don't want him gone yet. I also think that it's pretty reasonable to focus on generating discussion and getting reads rather than posting cases and trying to get people lynched, especially when it's still early on in the game. I'm willing to lynch LM. Mostly because of lack of content. The questions he asks aren't too bad, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything with his answers. At this point I'd prefer lynching hopeless, nothing even on the level of LM's questions yet. I think Koshi might be scum. He started off with a policy meant to generate discusison, cool. But the next time he enters the thread, he explicitly claims that he's just gonna be lurky and let others talk. Seems like he's trying to get away with non-contribution, and wasting most of his day 1 by being cryptic. He ended up posting a case on Jonny, which was bad and atm it looks like Koshi doesn't stand by his own case. Jonny's actions regarding the LM vote actually do make sense. Koshi also accuses Jonny of having a scum mentality for talking about his own waffling... even though Jonny was responding to a question and Koshi thought that too. I don't know why Koshi also has a defense post. But it doesn't seem to me like he's that worked up about a read, and it doesn't feel like he's posted all that much (well, his filter is kinda long. Main reason I'm not totally convinced he's mafia). I can't believe his claim about fast reactions in my position. On February 05 2014 15:10 cakemanofdoom wrote: I think Koshi is mafia. My last post went over why. I'm starting to think jay might be mafia. He seems to spend a lot of time defending himself, not as much looking for mafia. Still don't want to lynch him soon since he's so much more active than some people. His main case was on LoneMeow, which I didn't like that much; I really don't find much that's especially scummy about LM. Not too sure yet, this will probably be greatly affected by how jay posts from now. LoneMeow and Hopeless were lurky. Can't really tell if they're mafia from that, but they're fine lynches. Hopeless's more recent posts don't seem very substantial. Bad sign imo. Need to think about/read alaska and suki more. I thought suki was mafia for a bit, then she seemed to post and try. It's not like he's saying "jay is town" and then suddenly going "jay is scum". More like a gradual shift from "I don't want to lynch jay" to "jay seems scummy but..." | ||
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Hopeless1der
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