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On February 04 2014 19:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
How do I know? You just made some weird nitpicky thing about a post I made, and said Prome is mafia when he probably isn't. Very bleh. Yeah and you didn't even care to answer me. You said "mafia benefits from chaos and whatever shit", then you call DP out for it when it was clearly Holyflare who caused the thing in the first place. So yes, i want to know why it's only DP's "fault". And now you are being a bitch and doing the same thing here, and i have no fucking idea why.
I cared to fall asleep though.
Early game is early game. Like you I'm bored of DP going on about his bullshit with Artanis' entrance. I tried, halfheartedly, to change the direction of the conversation onto HF. This game has felt like one with an end day shennanie scum lynch. And the players who haven't done anything to strike me as townie are: HF/Rayn/Ceph/Art of those three I like Artanis most on a personal level and find him easiest to read (I have no idea how I would read Ceph as I've never played with him) so I'd rather like to lynch one of the other three guys.
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On February 04 2014 19:59 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 19:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 04 2014 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:On February 04 2014 19:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk marv is not mafia. How do you figure? Because he just is not. Do you think he would do this shit as mafia? This is like fucking begging to get shot. Yeah i don't buy that . Why would town marv who usually is a reasonable sort of fellow would do what he just did? Doesn't make any sense. It was not pro town. It did not facilitate any sort of discussion, basically he made two shitty votes with no reasoning and then went on an ego rampage all over the place.
He would do that because you, the person, annoy him. As is clear from his posts about you in various thread recent;y. In pregame didn't he say "oh great, another thread with DP talking bollocks in it" not word for word but that was the general idea and here you are talking bullocks about him being scum when anyone who knows how to read marv knows he is town right now. This is the towniest filter I've seen from marv when he was playing under his main.
If you are allowed to unreasonably rage at people for not bowing to your whim about how they approach the game marv is also allowed to get mad at people for calling his scum play bad (i.e. easy to catch) and following that up by failing to find him town when he is obviously town.
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On February 04 2014 20:13 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote:
##unvote
##Vote: raynpelikoneet
8.raynpelikoneet
3.Holyflare
6.DarthPunk
5.WaveOfShadow
2.iamperfection
4.Promethelax
9.Cephiro
1.marvellosity
7.Artanis Revising this list 8.raynpelikoneet 4.Holyflare 3.DarthPunk 6.WaveOfShadow 2.iamperfection 5.Promethelax 9.Cephiro 1.marvellosity 7.Artanis DP ^ 3 places [/b]
waaaaaaaaaaaaait one hot second. Why in the name of the three headed money goddess is Cephiro 9 and Rayn 8 when you are sure Rayn is scum?
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On February 04 2014 21:15 marvellosity wrote:
If your accusation on him had included "but I think x or y (in this case Artanis) aren't townie, how can he think this" then I'd be more sympathetic, but you didn't say that - you made it into a general point, and as a general point it's meaningless.
There are three scum. I happen to think that marv/dp/iamp/wos are town as am I. So that leaves me with four players who could be scum and of them two have not posted. So I am pretty damn sure at least one of the two players who haven't posted are scum. I didn't spell it out earlier but it makes perfect sense. Why is this a hard concept to follow?
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On February 04 2014 23:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Okay, so: 1) Artanis makes a lynch plan Prome assumedly finds pro-town. 2) Instead of commenting on that, or implying he finds this alignment indicative (more on that later) he posts this: Show nested quote +On February 04 2014 11:11 Promethelax wrote:
marv baby, talk to me about Artanis. Is his mafia claim in any way alignment indicative, I'm inclined to say no since well...that is dumb. I don't see him being more likely or less likely to post that as either alignment and until someone finds a quote saying "I would never claim scum as town" -artanis, I won't believe that to be a real reason to find him scummy. Now what's the motivation behind this post? Is it to find out more about Artanis? No, because Prome states his own opinion. Is to find out more about your (marv's) alignment? I find it hard to believe so, because why would he ask the question this way (give an answer) if he wanted to find out more about you marv. The only reason i can come up with is "hey what do you think so i know if i can use that against Artanis later on if needed". 3) After this Prome makes a same sort of plan (in different words) than Artanis made on step (1). Based on (2) i would think if someone comes up with a same like of suggestion you find pro town, you would give him town credit for it. Therefore it makes even less sense to me he asks you about if Artanis' scumclaim is alignment indicative or not (not to mention he himself does not find it alignment indicative).
Because WHAT marv says has nothing to do with how I read him it is all in the HOW he says things. He can have the answer written out for him, he knows the right answer as either alignment. That has NOTHING to do with it. It is how marv says things and sees things, not whether he can pull out the rote 'right' answer.
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On February 04 2014 23:22 Cephiro wrote:
Back home and briefly read through the thread. I still have some things to take care of, so I will post my thoughts later on in the evening. I like the content available so far, although some back and forth's were taken too far and lost their usefulness in my opinion.
Automatic + for everyone that isn't rushing to get a lynch done too quickly.
SOMEONE HAS A WORSE OPENING POST THAN ME! I've never been so happy in my life.
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On February 05 2014 02:10 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 02:09 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 19:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 04 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
How do I know? You just made some weird nitpicky thing about a post I made, and said Prome is mafia when he probably isn't. Very bleh. Yeah and you didn't even care to answer me. You said "mafia benefits from chaos and whatever shit", then you call DP out for it when it was clearly Holyflare who caused the thing in the first place. So yes, i want to know why it's only DP's "fault". And now you are being a bitch and doing the same thing here, and i have no fucking idea why. I cared to fall asleep though. Early game is early game. Like you I'm bored of DP going on about his bullshit with Artanis' entrance. I tried, halfheartedly, to change the direction of the conversation onto HF. This game has felt like one with an end day shennanie scum lynch. And the players who haven't done anything to strike me as townie are: HF/Rayn/Ceph/Art of those three I like Artanis most on a personal level and find him easiest to read (I have no idea how I would read Ceph as I've never played with him) so I'd rather like to lynch one of the other three guys. Bold and red don't really go together. Try again.
I have not had the chance to read him yet so at this point I'd prefer not to lynch him.
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On February 05 2014 02:21 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 02:20 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 21:15 marvellosity wrote:
If your accusation on him had included "but I think x or y (in this case Artanis) aren't townie, how can he think this" then I'd be more sympathetic, but you didn't say that - you made it into a general point, and as a general point it's meaningless. There are three scum. I happen to think that marv/dp/iamp/wos are town as am I. So that leaves me with four players who could be scum and of them two have not posted. So I am pretty damn sure at least one of the two players who haven't posted are scum. I didn't spell it out earlier but it makes perfect sense. Why is this a hard concept to follow? Why are you quoting me here?
I was ignoring this idea from you/rayn but finally saw enough posts about it to be worth responding. Grabbed your post because it was in front of me when I decided the idead was worth responding to.
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On February 05 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 02:29 Promethelax wrote:On February 05 2014 02:10 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2014 02:09 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 19:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 04 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
How do I know? You just made some weird nitpicky thing about a post I made, and said Prome is mafia when he probably isn't. Very bleh. Yeah and you didn't even care to answer me. You said "mafia benefits from chaos and whatever shit", then you call DP out for it when it was clearly Holyflare who caused the thing in the first place. So yes, i want to know why it's only DP's "fault". And now you are being a bitch and doing the same thing here, and i have no fucking idea why. I cared to fall asleep though. Early game is early game. Like you I'm bored of DP going on about his bullshit with Artanis' entrance. I tried, halfheartedly, to change the direction of the conversation onto HF. This game has felt like one with an end day shennanie scum lynch. And the players who haven't done anything to strike me as townie are: HF/Rayn/Ceph/Art of those three I like Artanis most on a personal level and find him easiest to read (I have no idea how I would read Ceph as I've never played with him) so I'd rather like to lynch one of the other three guys. Bold and red don't really go together. Try again. I have not had the chance to read him yet so at this point I'd prefer not to lynch him. Probably better to read people before offering opinions on who you want to lynch, hmm darling?
I read everything he posted and had found it not alignment indicative. Given that it was ~6 hours into d1 I figured I'd keep the guy I liked more and would wait for him to show up to have a chit chat with and see if I could read him. Not like I'm advocating a lynch of anyone RIGHT NOW. I'm advocating a lynch of one of these four dudes and placing pressure on the ones I know less well/have a harder time reading. I see no issue here, why do you?
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On February 05 2014 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Tell me, what had scum!marv said then?
I don't know that I could tell you the thing he would say word for word. In fact I know I could not say it. But his tone has been super town marv which it never was the last time. Was that question unnecessary? Probably. Do I have a read on marv which I believe is accurate? Yes. Was that question part of what helped me find my read on marv? Yes. Is your issue pointless? Yes.
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On February 05 2014 02:33 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 02:32 Promethelax wrote:On February 05 2014 02:30 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2014 02:29 Promethelax wrote:On February 05 2014 02:10 marvellosity wrote:On February 05 2014 02:09 Promethelax wrote:On February 04 2014 19:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 04 2014 19:46 marvellosity wrote:
How do I know? You just made some weird nitpicky thing about a post I made, and said Prome is mafia when he probably isn't. Very bleh. Yeah and you didn't even care to answer me. You said "mafia benefits from chaos and whatever shit", then you call DP out for it when it was clearly Holyflare who caused the thing in the first place. So yes, i want to know why it's only DP's "fault". And now you are being a bitch and doing the same thing here, and i have no fucking idea why. I cared to fall asleep though. Early game is early game. Like you I'm bored of DP going on about his bullshit with Artanis' entrance. I tried, halfheartedly, to change the direction of the conversation onto HF. This game has felt like one with an end day shennanie scum lynch. And the players who haven't done anything to strike me as townie are: HF/Rayn/Ceph/Art of those three I like Artanis most on a personal level and find him easiest to read (I have no idea how I would read Ceph as I've never played with him) so I'd rather like to lynch one of the other three guys. Bold and red don't really go together. Try again. I have not had the chance to read him yet so at this point I'd prefer not to lynch him. Probably better to read people before offering opinions on who you want to lynch, hmm darling? I read everything he posted and had found it not alignment indicative. Given that it was ~6 hours into d1 I figured I'd keep the guy I liked more and would wait for him to show up to have a chit chat with and see if I could read him. Not like I'm advocating a lynch of anyone RIGHT NOW. I'm advocating a lynch of one of these four dudes and placing pressure on the ones I know less well/have a harder time reading. I see no issue here, why do you? Because Artanis is scummy as shit and you should be able to see it. Does he look like the kind of dude who's happy to roll town after a bunch of mafia games?
Has he had a bunch of scum games in a row? I've been less than active on the forum for a while. Though no, he doesn't look like he is super happy to roll town after being scum a bunch of times.
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I just did read his filter. Which is why it took me a second to answer that question. Any chance you remember the town game off the top of your head? (of course there is)
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On February 05 2014 02:38 marvellosity wrote:
Lacking "pop", one could say :p
lol
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well damn. I'll go do the leg work myself.
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How has Cephiro not become your favourite lynch off of his two posts? Those posts are super scummy. To an incredible level, well beyond where my first posts usually are. Why do you think Art is more likely scum than Ceph?
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On February 05 2014 02:43 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 05 2014 02:42 Promethelax wrote:
How has Cephiro not become your favourite lynch off of his two posts? Those posts are super scummy. To an incredible level, well beyond where my first posts usually are. Why do you think Art is more likely scum than Ceph? Cephiro was beyond useless in some game that just finished. Er... SMB mafia. I thought he was mafia forever until it became clear much much later he wasn't. Judgement gets reserved until he makes some content.
Reasonable. I need to look into that. I was taking (someone's) word on him being a lurky monkey as scum. Rayn maybe?
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On January 16 2014 09:32 Cephiro wrote:
Hi all. I am not very interested in the random banter at the start of the game and I have better things to do, thus I will not take part in the first few hours of discussion, probably.
All you need to know is that I'm one in a million. :3 I shall observe from the shadows, for now.
this seems pretty at odds with his post in this game talking about how cool the early game banter has been and how totes excited he is to get in on it.
On February 04 2014 23:22 Cephiro wrote:
Back home and briefly read through the thread. I still have some things to take care of, so I will post my thoughts later on in the evening. I like the content available so far, although some back and forth's were taken too far and lost their usefulness in my opinion.
Automatic + for everyone that isn't rushing to get a lynch done too quickly.
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I guess. I just found his second post in combination with that one more trying to look like he cares while that first post in SMB was a hard don't-give-a-fuck post which read quite townie.
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Also the introduction to the third stanza of that post is really odd in my head.
'Speaking of marv, which we weren't, I really wanted to make a point about this thing because I have so totes been reading the thread'
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