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On February 07 2014 11:25 LSB wrote: All I ask of you is to go over day 2 again and convince yourself that I am town What? why would I do that. You need to convince me that you are town. You are talking about how you would of shot rayn which are empty words. That does not make you town. That does not make you anything. Anyway I want to know what cephiro thinks. If anyone puts down I vote I will be furious. | ||
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On February 07 2014 11:29 LSB wrote: Let's step back and pretend I am mafia on day 2, and take a second to consider what happens if I lynch myself. I can't shoot rayn, since he is mafia and then we would lose. So I have to shoot someone else. Even though I promised I would shoot rayn. So essentially I am committing suicide to cast more suspicion on my scumbuddy, which is basically impossible. I don't think you would have been lynched. You weren't even close to getting lynched, and the reason you would even suggest it (without getting close to even doing it) is so you could quick hammer us into lylo like you just did and then make this exact argument. | ||
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On February 07 2014 11:37 LSB wrote: ##VOTE: LSB #YOLOSWAG ##vote: LSB no way you are town over cephiro. | ||
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He put down a vote. Also you should not be posting until the mods have posted. | ||
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On February 07 2014 11:45 Holyflare wrote: you woulda won if you didn't hammer him??? Nope. Him self voting along with the rayn thing would have made him super confirmed town. At that point all town needs to do is to not kill LSB. Ceph would have understood that and shot me if he got lynched and If I got lynched I would have died. I took a 50/50 shot hoping that LSB would follow marv and promes reads of me being like totes town. Scum can't self vote at lylo and win whilst town can so self voting was a really good play. | ||
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On February 07 2014 11:47 Aquanim wrote: yeah or he could just have lynched DP. so not such a great play No it was. Because it is something only town can do, I was clearly setting up LSB as the mislynch and then he basically town claimed. So I took the 50/50 | ||
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On February 07 2014 11:50 LSB wrote: DarthPunk either was incredibly stupid since he didn't think I was confirmed town. Or he was mafia. I couldn't think you were confirmed town or I would lose. Town wins with ONE confirmed townie lol. Anyway I think scum played well. This seemed like an incredibly difficult setup for scum but maybe I am biased. If artanis had actually played maybe we would have been in a better spot, but overall I think it was a close game. GG alll ! | ||
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Setup super town imba IMO. | ||
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On February 07 2014 11:56 Hapahauli wrote: Town imba yes. Super town imba? No. That was a product of Rayn and Artanis getting outed too quickly. You only need one confirmed town to win. Scum get no way to deal with good town players without suiciding. Win con is harder than normal, Scum have no initiative to make plays and totally rely on town misplaying in IML which by it's nature rarely happens with infinite time. We mis-lynched 4 straight times and still lost because LSB could a.) self vote when scum could not and b.) Was confirmed town and you only need one alive to guarantee a victory. Maybe i'm biased, But i don't think I am and I certanily won't play this setup again. Thanks for hosting though. :D Scum qt:http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/8EDMN7jGwWtT Apologies in advance to marv and prome for all the venting at your expense. Also, prome was scum MVP cause we literally had to rely on prome shooting Artanis over Rayn or town would have won instantly cause marv would be confirmed and then all town needed to do was lynch town reads and shoot scum reads. | ||
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On February 07 2014 12:03 marvellosity wrote: "we mislynched 4 straight times" is misleading when the first two lynches were to guarantee mafia flips. Still imba  | ||
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On February 07 2014 12:06 marvellosity wrote: I mean it's basically the direct equivalent of "town lynched mafia day 1 and day 2 and mafia got their revenge shots" suddenly seems like town is raping if you put it like that, which is actually correct ;p I mean we sacked rayn to get a shot on you. So you didn't really catch him and artanis didn't play. Anyway. I am happy with the 50/50 outcome cause this game was hard as scum. | ||
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On February 07 2014 12:13 yamato77 wrote: The objective is NOT mislynching necessarily, it is to look townie enough to not get shot when a townie is lynched. None of you did that well at all. I was a universal town read Yamato. and if you look too townie town will lynch you to shoot your scum reads (marv, Prome) That is the best way to play. But you can't be lynched as scum, so you can't do the thing town will do and if you look scummy you get shot. Hue. | ||
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On February 07 2014 12:16 marvellosity wrote: In any game where 2/3 of the mafia team are outed on day 1, mafia are gonna have a hard time, regardless of setup. I Mean yeah that made it harder. But the setup is still breakable in towns favor in a variety of situations. | ||
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On February 07 2014 12:17 yamato77 wrote: Anyway, this game was horrible. Everyone had a shit attitude. Scum were talking about conceding during D1. You don't get to complain about balance when you're not even trying. Yes I do. and I did try. Artanis did not play, and rayn stopped caring. If you say I did not try you are not reading the game. And if you can't talk about the setup objectively then there is no point discussing it anymore. :D | ||
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On February 07 2014 12:19 yamato77 wrote: If you think the best play is to lynch the townie looking players, you're delusional. If those first two shots went wrong, town loses instantly. Not at the start. But as soon as one player is confirmed town. That is exactly what you do. You lynch people likely to be town and shoot your scum reads to deny their shot and then ride the one confirmed town to unwinnable lylo of scum. The fact that town cannot lose in 2-1 lylo with 1 confirmed town is not balanced yamato. | ||
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On February 07 2014 12:30 Keirathi wrote: There wasn't an obs thread, just a Skype chat. Made me sad because I dont have skype  Did you have me as scum keir? | ||
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