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On January 07 2014 10:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have. I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post. That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason. I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts?
I guess it's just hard for me to imagine because I have never gotten mislynched. I'm just that good + Show Spoiler +or that bad at scum that no one needs to worry
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On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective.
You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum.
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On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.)
Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment.
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On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.
Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!
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On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.
Anything interesting happening?
Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too! Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD
Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!
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On January 07 2014 11:08 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. I get what he's saying, he means the act of prodding the sleeping lion doesn't say anything about Iams alignment but is in of itself pro town, because it encourages Yamato to play, which I don't neccecairely agree with, because the way iam called out Yamato was in A very accusatory tone that suggests he wouldn't actually listen to what Yamato would have to say, despite how scummy he finds him not saying anything to be. Also going by this and earlier dialogue it feels like Artanis and iam are pretty chummy / : Artanis how is Iam more townie than me in this game? What has he done to earn your subtle approval? Also welcome to the game Wos, what do you think of the way cheese pushes Artanis and soft defends me?
I have Iam as null, slightly leaning townie for attempting to get discussion going when everyone was still trolling. I think scum would be happy to just keep the fun up for as long as possible. I don't feel like the aggressive way of Iamp approaching Yamato is alignment indicative. I didn't feel like he was accusing as much as attempting to antagonize Yamato into contributing.
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On January 07 2014 11:09 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.
Anything interesting happening? Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG. On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too! Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead! Nuuuuuuuuuuu! technically I didn't read gumshoes post  Anyway. So talk to me about people that just post then leave, makes me a sad cheesecake. Mkfuba and Yamato pretty much did the same thing, post then peace. Is that an alignment indicative action for you or is it more likely scum etc etc
I've seen both town and scum do it. I don't know fuba enough other than knowing he has a tendency to go inactive, but that's second hand information. Yamato I've played a bit more with but he hasn't peaced out as either alignment so I don't find either alignment indicative.
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I like how Gumshoe kept doing his own thing even after my pressure. It feels genuine and I'm revoking the scumpointsᵀᴹ. Also liked Fuba's enter into the thread. Checked two of his games briefly, PYP and White Flag. He was very inactive as scum, whereas he still at least posted a bit in PYP. If he goes full AFK he's worth another look.
On January 07 2014 18:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Actually this is where the interesting conversation about gumshoe ends: Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:28 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:21 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Artanis, how do you feel about Gumshoe begging to survive the early game? I have my own opinion on it, want to see if you came up with the same conclusion I have. I see a myriad of potential reasons. I've played a bunch with Gumshoe on voice and he tends to be loud there. He's been lynched there a bunch of times on D1 so I can imagine him saying this regardless of alignment. I struggle to find a reason that makes me lean on him to one alignment or the other regarding this specific post. That doesn't give me much to work with =| I may as well tell you my opinion on it, see if you share the sentiment. Two games ago I was lynched as town for being too Pro-town, too sexy, whatever. Felt it was completely out of my control and it was terrible. In the game still going on I was called out for being protown and it actually pissed me off because I thought i was going to get lynched again, this time D1 for no reason. I can see Gumshoe being sick and tired of being called scummy for seemingly no reason, and just wanting to survive as town. I think it'd be fairly ballsy as scum to say "Hey, don't lynch me D1, I'm going to show you I hunt scum" without being as sarcastic as Coagulation or something. It made me lean townie on him. Thoughts? I guess it's just hard for me to imagine because I have never gotten mislynched. I'm just that good + Show Spoiler +or that bad at scum that no one needs to worry . Your story makes sense, but I can also imagine him having thought of this and deciding beforehand that he wants to post this. I buy that he's frustrated of dying on D1. I can completely get into that, I just don't see why that means he's town now. Saying "I'm going to show you I hunt scum" doesn't cut it in that regard. What I should say is, I wouldn't post something like that as mafia so that makes me lean town on him. I take it you're leaning scum on Gumshoe atm because you posted that gumshoe was talking about something not being alignment indicative and that he gains scumpoints.Gumshoe you are once again the topic of day 1 discussion! Congrats! I can only hope that this leads to good things this time around :D It ends in a disagreement and neither of those guys bring that up any more and neither of them have a read on each other.
This isn't true. I've indicated I have a minor scumread on CC, and had a minor scumread on Gumshoe. You're either not reading very well or you're trying to twist my words. I'm not sure which. I also don't like how Yamato having a thought process is apparently enough for Rayn to give him a townread. It feels poorly reasoned. Rayn is awarded a collection of scumpointsᵀᴹ. Do you really feel like Yamato is this easy to catch as scum?
I still like how Iamp is generating discussion and do not view him as scummy.
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I don't think I've played with a yamato scum since like 2010 or something.
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On January 08 2014 00:18 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 00:13 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I don't think I've played with a yamato scum since like 2010 or something. considering he didn't start playing until 2012 that is quite the feat!!!
I am a man of wonders. I think I'm remembering Pandain.
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On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.
So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ!
##Vote Mr. Cheesecake
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Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.
JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection.
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On January 08 2014 03:38 thrawn2112 wrote:
Artanis, the scumpoints are at best distracting. It'd be fine if I knew the real time value of a scumpoint and knew how many scumpoints equals a scumread... but I don't, so that makes it difficult to determine how serious you are about your reads.
Scumpointsᵀᴹ indicate a suspicion at the least. You'll see a vote once the scumpointsᵀᴹ exceed a certain threshold, like you did just now.
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On January 08 2014 03:39 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 03:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling. So you want me to lie and say "yeah it totally indicates person X as alignment Y"? When I think something isn't alignment indicative, I say it isn't alignment indicative. For trying to paint me as scummy in every way you can think of I award you more scumpointsᵀᴹ! ##Vote Mr. Cheesecake The point is that you didnt care about conversation and talking just said it wasmt alignment indicative and left it at that. didnt seem interested in beginning the game apart from trolling.
If you ask me about a certain thing I answer it. You gave me something and asked if you thought it was alignment indicative, I disagreed. That you're willing to call me scum off it shows to me that you're looking for a target rather than looking for scum.
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On January 08 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.
JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection. I did not change my opinion. That would mean I had a different opinion before and I didn't. And of course I checked what you said. Why would I agree with rayn without knowing what I am agreeing on as scum btw? That would be really dumb. I fail to see how agreeing with rayn is scummy in any way (especially if this is one of very few good points made in this game). He usually plays best Day1 if he is town and I at least see some critical thinking of him. I can't say that about many other players yet.
Because of being careless. Town wants to find scum, scum wants to find a target. It's how I caught Mocsta in LXIII and it's leading me to suspect you as well. How you come to the conclusion that I said nothing about CC when I clearly indicated I found him at least suspicious is beyond me other than simply parroting Rayn. Perhaps changing conclusion is the wrong wording, but you've created a new one entirely based on Rayn's words.
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On January 08 2014 03:48 thrawn2112 wrote:can you provide quotes Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence.
First he attacks me here, then realizes he messed up.
On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too! Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD
I'd consider that trying to make friends. Then he asks me some questions and comes back with
On January 08 2014 01:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm can we lynch Artanis? He wouldn't play nice with me.
On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling.
Despite having answered his questions. He's casting suspicion on me because I refuse to call something that I feel isn't alignment indicative alignment indicative. I suspect because I refused his advances because he wasn't sexy enough.
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On January 08 2014 03:51 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 03:48 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 08 2014 03:45 justanothertownie wrote:On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.
JAT is probably scum because he's parroting Rayn who made an incorrect conclusion but rather than checking it or reading up on what we've said he simply changes his opinion and copies it. No thoughts of his own, all deflection. I did not change my opinion. That would mean I had a different opinion before and I didn't. And of course I checked what you said. Why would I agree with rayn without knowing what I am agreeing on as scum btw? That would be really dumb. I fail to see how agreeing with rayn is scummy in any way (especially if this is one of very few good points made in this game). He usually plays best Day1 if he is town and I at least see some critical thinking of him. I can't say that about many other players yet. Because of being careless. Town wants to find scum, scum wants to find a target. It's how I caught Mocsta in LXIII and it's leading me to suspect you as well. How you come to the conclusion that I said nothing about CC when I clearly indicated I found him at least suspicious is beyond me other than simply parroting Rayn. Perhaps changing conclusion is the wrong wording, but you've created a new one entirely based on Rayn's words. Because an opinion someone else has can't be adopted because that would be scummy. Good point man. You entirely failed to show us where you "clearly indicated" that CC was a little suspicious to you too. Just calling Rayns point an incorrect conclusion doesn't cut it.
On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too!
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On January 08 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
You took those scumpoints back shortly after.
Not really. I just substituted them.
On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.
Anything interesting happening? Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG. Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:
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I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too! Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead!
On January 08 2014 03:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 03:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 08 2014 03:48 thrawn2112 wrote:can you provide quotes On January 08 2014 03:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Cheesecake is scum for inconsistent interactions with me. First he tries to win over my favour, when that fails he searches for every little thing to call me scum after noticing that the thread atmosphere allows easy pressure on me.
On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:29 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:19 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Gum, do you feel I'm the scummiest person so far or is there someone that jumped on the heat you find more suspicious because of it? I can't really tell from your post. I found what you did curios, not scummy, cheesecakes jump on you though isn't as simple, cause it happened through me which leads me to believe he cared more about how I responded to the question then how you play in voice. Which isn't alignment indicative, it just means he's started playing the game. Right now I think there are focus points in the thread, but no actual indications of scum intent, something that is sure to change so long as we keep talking ( : So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. First he attacks me here, then realizes he messed up. On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too! Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD I'd consider that trying to make friends. Then he asks me some questions and comes back with On January 08 2014 01:06 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Hmm can we lynch Artanis? He wouldn't play nice with me. On January 08 2014 01:25 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
everytime i tried to get the game started he just said "well he could do that as either alignment", basically refusing to conversate and get the game rolling. Despite having answered his questions. He's casting suspicion on me because I refuse to call something that I feel isn't alignment indicative alignment indicative. I suspect because I refused his advances because he wasn't sexy enough. I 'attacked' you because i was confused for not reading the spoilered quote, it was unwarranted. Not going to push something that was wrong when i realized that i was being dumb.
You're right. I just remember it as getting attacked, then backing off, then continuing when thread sentiment is again in my disfavour. I still find your point about things that aren't alignment indicative scummy.
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On January 08 2014 03:59 thrawn2112 wrote:You're accusing him of trying to win over your favor. But one of your first posts is Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Hello everyone. I'm also town.
Cheesecake, on a level of 1-100, how sexy will you be this game? so I don't know what you mean by that accusation. No matter his alignment any sexiness he demonstrates for your benefit is likely a result of the above quote.
The problem I have is that he did it after he accused me rather than before, but the matter is settled because I forgot that his initial accusation was rescinded.
I don't trust scumpoints: Show nested quote +On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.
Anything interesting happening? Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG. On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:32 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
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So basically you wrote 4 sentences about something you said you thought was curious, then another four sentences on why it isn't alignment indicative. You gain scumpointsᵀᴹ! Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too! Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead! That's why scumpoints are bad. You are assigning CC scum points for misunderstanding a post. That's too weak of an accusation for me to believe but I can't tell how serious you are when you act silly while assigning scum reads. I just refreshed the page and saw your recent post about the point I just brought up. Obviously I don't think it's a valid point.
On reflection I think you might be right. I might be too tunneled. His comeback just instantly felt like a Plan B when his initial plan failed.
I can't ditch the scumpointsᵀᴹ. They're too sexy.
On January 08 2014 04:07 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 04:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 08 2014 03:58 justanothertownie wrote:
You took those scumpoints back shortly after. Not really. I just substituted them. On January 07 2014 11:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
ohai ladies.
I town, just for a change.
Anything interesting happening? Confirmed scum, can't be not scum due to RNG. On January 07 2014 11:03 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 11:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On January 07 2014 10:57 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:53 gumshoe wrote:On January 07 2014 10:45 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On January 07 2014 10:41 gumshoe wrote:
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Do I level up? Btw curios doesn't mean scummy, it just means I wanna know what other people think about you, and I'll put forth my actual thoughts on you to do that and get responses that way instead of just asking bland questions. Besides, just because I'm town doesn't mean I have to tell you everything I'm thinking : P and just because I'm super awesome doesn't mean I'll have scum reads out the gate, so chew on the null reads for a while, if you actually read the process instead of sneering at the conclusion youll find both worth, and proof that I am at the very least trying to think about the game from a townie perspective. You can level up if you accumulate enough points to lynch with fire status. Currently you're at prod with a glowstick status. My problem is that you're saying a lot of things without saying anything of worth that helps us get further. On voice mafia you tend to rant a lot as well, both as town and scum, but I believe you put in more effort to push town forward and ask questions as town than as scum. I don't see you trying to figure out alignments, you're just saying nothing. The best way to prove you're town is to hunt for scum. Actual Scum hunting is townie, building and pushing a case against someone because that's what townies do is not. What do you think of Iam pushing a reckless Yamato ? ( sigh, boring question alert.) Yeah, so do actual scumhunting rather than feigning contributions. I'd actually like you to stop with this discourse as it's not leading us anywhere. iamp's prodding of Yamato is protown but not alignment indicative as it's very easy to do as either alignment. Artanis I feel like this is contradictory. You call out Gumshoe for saying stuff that isn't alignment indicative, but here we are. I fail to see the point of the last sentence. Because Gumshoe is feigning contributions and being very wordy whereas Iamp is prodding Yamato and attempting to get him to contribute. The two situations are very different and you seem very keen on trying to paint me off as scum for extremely questionable reasons whilst warping the situation. You may have some scumpointsᵀᴹ too! Think we both misunderstood, didn't see that you were responding to Gumshoe's question and not just trying to randomly change the subject. No scumpoints for me plx xD Okay, I understand. In that case, I revoke the initial scumpointsᵀᴹ. You may have scumpointsᵀᴹ for not properly reading the posts of the person you're accusing instead! As I said that looked more like a joke to me. The reasoning behind your substitutional scumread is much weaker and I did not read that as clearly indicative of such a read.
What I am curious of though is that my interactions with CC clearly did read to a lead, even if I substituted it with a different read later it led me to information I felt was alignment indicative, yet you still conclude that my interactions did not give me a conclusion. How come?
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On January 08 2014 04:16 thrawn2112 wrote:
So after all that, what's your current read on CC?
Still leaning scum because he's tried to call me scum over calling non alignment-indicative things non alignment-indicative.
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