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[UoN]Sentinel
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On December 29 2013 05:46 Corazon wrote: He's making Adam vote formally so we still have a chance to convince him to oppose his team and read the game. OH I JUST REALIZE ADAM IS ONE OF THE FIVE I'd love to hear more from Adam (my own decision was pretty rash, I put a lot of faith in Adam since I had nothing to go on). | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 29 2013 06:16 Koshi wrote: Cora & VE both scummers. Current team is all town. CR is town. I would say out of sentinel and grack, grack is the scummer. Please do, I wouldn't say you're the shining beacon of town enlightenment right now either | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 29 2013 08:46 Adam4167 wrote: Rayn, don't be thick. I asked the host if my submission of the team counted as a yay from me, he said yes, so there was no reason for me to vote. When I went to bed there were 3 yes votes and no one was contesting my team, so what was I to discuss? I'm not going to bark at the people that have voted yes, their votes are in, and they've already done their bit. For everyone else, I was waiting for them to bring their objections to the thread to discuss with them. If they had no objections, there was nothing to discuss and they'd vote yes. The level of resistance this team is facing is what I'd expect from an all town team. I'll almost certainly vote yes, but we've got 4 hours still, may as well use it to discuss. Why would an all town team have no resistance? Wouldn't it be the other way around, with spies coming in to start something and try and get a different team into play? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 29 2013 09:14 Adam4167 wrote: There hasn't been no resistance. We have 4 people voting no or declaring they're going to vote no. Thats a team passing by the smallest of margins. But the first few people all voted yes. Only when it became clear that there was too little evidence for such a fast majority vote did people start voting no to delay everything and see what's going on. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 29 2013 09:20 Grackaroni wrote: Maybe somebody can fill me in if it is typical for the first mission to be passed on the first attempt? I'm more alarmed that it is actually passing right now than there being some resistance. I already know that 1/2 of those resisters are not nay voting because they know it's an all town team. In Resistance 2 the first mission took forever because nobody trusted anybody. Then once town started winning some, the game accelerated. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 29 2013 09:39 Adam4167 wrote: Sentinel, if you could change your vote, would you switch it? Rayn, same question to you Three hours ago I would have definitely said yes. Now... I'm not completely sure. On one hand, you're here for discussion, which at least somewhat eases my suspicions. On the other hand, Hopeless has disappeared off the map after his vote. That troubles me. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 29 2013 09:48 Adam4167 wrote: I agree, i'd prefer hopeless make a re-appearance soon. What i'm mulling over though is that if I did have a spy on this mission, wouldn't I have more people pushing this along, with some gusto even? I don't see that happening here. But as more people start to side with the nays - or at least not openly supporting the yays, it becomes dangerous to push the mission. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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[UoN]Sentinel
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I believe he's saying that since there's 6 towns you don't have to send all six on any day, so it's ok to be unsure of a few people as long as you have 5 "confirmed" townies. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 30 2013 05:41 Hopeless1der wrote: VE, why did you want your team to fail? What did you expect to gain from watching us vote nay? Koshi who do you plan to send for your team? Sentinel what "mistake" do you refer to? On December 28 2013 12:13 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Hopeless is talking with more sense and clarity that I can conjure up, and his posts do seem a lot more complete than what I saw in my quick browse of his LXIII filter. I like Adam calling out Koshi as well instead of just hopping on board with everyone else (including me). In some way this makes me think he carefully thought out his team. I trust him and I trust his view on Hopeless. Rayn's been stepping up as our chief discussion leader so I trust him too. I'm okay with this mission. Voting yay I think I rushed my vote way too fast. I want to think this one through. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 30 2013 05:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: I do not know why he liked Koshi / Adam early on, i certainly did not share the feeling. I do not like this post: I like what Sentinel says about Hopeless, and i like what he says about Adam calling out Koshi. The problem is earlier on Koshi was a strong candidate for Sentinel's pick if was to pick a team. Why did you change your mind on Koshi? Another problem with the post is what Sentinel did - he yay-voted amongst the first people for Adam's team. Now he is "holding judgement" on VE's team, when in fact it should be easier to vote in a way or another, as he is one of the teammembers, he has to judge only 2 people, not 3. Explain that Sentinel. Also again, here he says Koshi and VE are shaky, why? I jumped the gun on this post. I've admitted it in the thread multiple times and I'm admitting it again. If I had my way this post would never exist. However - This is where I realize that Koshi hasn't really been doing anything except telling everyone he's town, and Adam was the first one to point that out. Good job Adam. However, this is when Adam also disappeared, and people instantly voted yay on his team. That didn't seem right. I think a team with a spy on it would have that little resistance because the spies can back the team 100%. Town team wouldn't. So it seemed like a spy team until people started voting nay. Then it was still shaky but better. I actually like VE's team more than Adam's. Cora's still high in my townie books, and I'm town, so that's 2 out of 3 right there. The missing link is VE. On one hand, VE started out the game much like Adam, saying a few words and then going off the radar, in his case for nearly 24 hours. So that was disconcerting. His post addressing liabilities on the team was spot-on, but I didn't like the fact that he vanished. Now he's back and returning to the same posts about proper townie behavior, etc. yet his decision felt rash too. I think he should have at least discussed the possibility of me and Cora vs. rayn and Hopeless before he sent the team in, but you addressed that already so I won't bother restating. What I don't understand though, is why: On December 30 2013 02:45 VisceraEyes wrote: But for the record, I'm still mostly town on Rayn...just disappointed that he's not as active as he was at the start of the game. Does a strong townread on rayn still justify switching onto me? Koshi I'm not sure about. I don't like him at all this game, yet I can't pin anything substantial onto him. I hate his "I'm obv town gaise" attitude, yet he did make good points on VE at the time. And I'm still unsure why he's so adamant about nayvoting VE's team. My gut feeling after all this time tells me to vote yay, but I'm still deciding how much I want to read into Koshi's words. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 30 2013 06:05 Koshi wrote: I said why already. + now there is a scumslip. I for one remain unconvinced there was any scumslip there. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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[UoN]Sentinel
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On December 30 2013 09:01 Alakaslam wrote: Day 1: Phase 2 Team 2 Current Leader: VisceraEyes Deadline to Vote on the Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00) Countdown: Proposed Team: VisceraEyes, [UoN]Sentinel, Corazon Current Vote Count: Koshi: Nay Hopeless1der: Nay Corazon: Yay On December 29 2013 11:38 FirmTofu wrote: Day 1: Phase 1 Team 2 Current Leader: VisceraEyes Deadline to Propose a Team: 04:00 GMT (+00:00) Countdown: Proposed Team: TBD Current Vote Count: TBD Wait do we have 2 hours or 26? | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
Well, guys, I'll be here for the voting deadline, but I won't be around for the majority of the nightphase. I'm leaving on vacation in two days, and I'll be phoneposting for the entirety of Day 2 and the first bit of Day 3. I'll have a lot of time on my hands in the evenings and I'll still be able to keep track of this game since there's only nine of us, but just as a forewarning. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
80% sure I want to vote yay. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 31 2013 04:47 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sent what do you think of Adam's statement about VE? I don't think it says anything suspicious that VE avoided Adam for a while, seems more like early D1 bias getting in the way of making new reads when Adam comes back in the thread and actually posts. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 31 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: I meant more like what does it say about Adam? See the puzzle of "who's scum" would make sense if Adam was a spy and Koshi+CR were his confederates trying to push him through, yet why would Adam call direct attention to this if he were the third spy? Why would he be asking VE to reconsider his scumteam? It doesn't make Adam outright town, but it does at least give a little bit of justice to his name. | ||
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