That's bad logic. There is no reason for me to be town. There is no reason for you to be town. Really 0 reason. Because you make sensible posts you are town?? Ofc not, and there is NOTHING we have to verify you are town. So you went on 2 missions and they both failed? So what? There were 5 others who could be spies. There is nothing to pressure people with in this game on D1: activity might be an indicator but why can't scum be active, there is no reason for them to not be active and "scumhunt" because there are no flips and nobody will ever know if you were wrong.

We all roll dices and hope they fall correct.

It's 6 vs 3.
Voting analysis is fucking silly because it is so easy for scum to see what will happen and vote accordingly.
No flips ever.
No blue powers or something like that.

This is comparable to a 6 vs 3 mini without flips, blue roles or NK. Just lynches in the darkness. Which town just doesn't win unless lucky. Extremely lucky.

I guess this is for endgame but the math behind this makes it very unlikely town wins this unless everybody is a super duper pro player, otherwise you need extreme luck to win as town.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 15:55 GMT

#1044

This game without secret votes makes it a tremendous times harder to catch scum with pants down. I tried to play into this fact by saying I would yay-vote and then nay-vote but it's so silly.

In this game to win you need to have 3 players that roll town AND that are better at looking town then 1 player who rolled scum.

If there is a player that rolled scum that is really good at looking town the game is played.

That's how I see it.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 15:59 GMT

#1046

Normal mafia is balanced around the fact a team plays better than guys who are solo. I think this game counters that by the voting mechanism, but this voting mechanism is not the normal voting mechanism. The slowness of 24h picks and 24h votes also work in scum favor imo, making it fast paced like irl helps town because you need to take stances. VE didn't take a single stance on any player in the first 240 hours of this game. Still gets town read. rofl.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 16:29 GMT

#1050

Nha. Not when you got this much time to do shit.
How to play scum:
-Either look like the towniest town that towned day 1 by trying to push "townagenda" and make friends by looking you want the best for town. Or just be more in shadow and missdirect town and the thread like in normal mafia.
-Predict how people will vote (it's obvious) and vote accordingly. There aren't much swingvotes and it should be easy to not look bad. Looking good isn't even needed most of the time.

By following above 2 rules you corrupted the dice. Now sit back and see them being rolled in your favor.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 16:31 GMT

#1051

Rayn fits above playstyle.

Scummers on my list don't.

Thats why I am on 0 care because I will stick to list even if it doesnt make sense.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 16:51 GMT

#1056

Hopeless. Still sucking rayn cock. Since fucking Mission 1 failed. So dumb.

On January 10 2014 23:20 Koshi wrote:
So I had to consider you as scum to win.

Let it be known I gave you the option to look at rayn/CR after Mission 1 but you didn't Hopeless. You fucking didn't.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 16:55 GMT

#1057

And yes Hopeless.

As scum I am totally posting how this game is impossible to win and putting focus on me because it isn't 100% obvious I will go on the next mission and you won't.

rofl rofl rofl.

Fuck it.

Stick to my list which is a glorified "deserve to win" list.

rayn deserves it and I hope he isn't town and a random scum in VE/CR/Coag fucks it over and Hopeless doesn't at fucking all in case he is town and thus rayn scum.

It's so fucking impossible that Hopeless is being such an oblivious fuck as scum though. And the activity. FUCK IT.

My list stands. Still 0 care. Now without posting. Nobody else cares anyway. Except we 3 and at least 1 is scum.

Grtz on activity this game.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 16:59 GMT

#1058

rayn/ve/cr for endgame cred.

Koshi out.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 17:02 GMT

#1060

Oh. I need to add that I will still stick to my other list that I will vote yay/nay for.

But now I named 7 people that might be scum and I can't go wrong.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 17:59 GMT

#1062

What do you make of Hopeless going in blind rage after me? This is perfect example.

On January 05 2014 05:55 Hopeless1der wrote:

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No koshi. You lied. You are scum, THAT is plain and simple.

I like CR his explanation better because that is actually the truth. While what Hopeless is saying here is just fucking dumb if he is scum and he knows I am town. He is just pissing me off. Which can't help his cause. Unless he thinks he doesn't need me and is trying to play rayn like this. But really? This is the best way he can do it? Mehh.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 19:43 GMT

#1074

Hopeless. I keep giving you chances to call rayn scum and team up with me. Why don't you do that?

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 20:16 GMT

#1076

It's not way more. It's definite.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 20:28 GMT

#1078

CR you always make me feel good everytime you post.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 20:46 GMT

#1081

Just send in your team. Thx!

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 20:46 GMT

#1082

And no I don't need to talk more about it.

Scum is in my list.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 10 2014 23:27 GMT

#1084

##Vote: yay

Koshi his list.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 11 2014 00:44 GMT

#1090

Let's all bitch and moan.

Koshi

Belgium38799 Posts

January 11 2014 01:17 GMT

#1099

Yeah I agree vayne. But there was nothing to do against it. Insane game to win as town imo with rayn as scum.

Somewhere I felt rayn was scum, somewhere I knew Cora was scum, 0 clues about Coag.

But really. Meh. Couldn't push it. Never. Like I said, I had to "pretend" that Hopeless was scum or rayn would just buddy up with Hopeless I think. Don't know but that's how I felt after Mission 1 and Hopeless constantly going after me.

gg lads. Great hosting. Maybe a bit lackluster game on towns part, I had a bad day 1 because I didn't know wtf to do. But resistance is not my game. Good thing it is not mafia and I don't have to put it on my profile.

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