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TL Mafia LXIV: A Game of Intrigue

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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 08 2014 23:27 GMT
#108
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#1 Grubby Fan.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 11 2014 21:56 GMT
#758
Hey all, this is my third mafia game and first PM and first mayor game. You can find my previous games here and here. I was scum in the first one and got killed on Day1, so I’m a terrible scum player. In the second link which is an ongoing game, I am a townie.

Below is the list I’ve made while going through filters to catch-up, I wanted to share it and I will be updating it throughout the game. I am experimenting on it, but in my shadowings and coaching I received, I’ve been told that trying to visualize the connections and reads is very helpful in a mafia game. I will try it out this game. I am hoping that keeping a tab on people’s reads, votes for mayor, and activity fluctuations will make it harder for scum to go unnoticed and pressure them to keep a consistent townie persona, forcing them to slip eventually. Please let me know if I've made a mistake and/or missed any of your reads in my list.

My current mayor candidate is Dr. Helvetica, primarily because I enjoyed reading how seriously he approaches the game. I would like to play a serious game as well, hence the endorsement. I also enjoyed reading through Yamato77’s filter, he is my #2 mayor candidate. I am open to PMs and IRC discussions; though one question, why should one be careful about anonymity on IRC?

+ Show Spoiler +
Inactive players: BloodyC0bbler (1 post, no reads), chinstrap (2 posts, no reads), Bumatlarge (2 posts, no reads), Gumshoe (sub-10 posts, no reads), Captain Obvious (sub-5 posts, no reads), Mkfuba07 (2 posts, no reads), Aquanim (5 posts, no reads),

Marvellosity - 40+ posts, almost all of them 1-2 liners, states that people need to start posting more for him to start analyzing them.
Reads: Suchdoge (town), Captain Obvious (scum)
Yamato77 – 20ish posts, strives to provide reads and analysis, seems like he wants to play actively.
Reads:
Kushm4sta – 20ish posts, active.
Reads: Gumshoe (town), Thrawn (town), Alakaslam (town), Raynpelikoneet (town), justanothertownie (scum), waveofshadow (scum),
Alakaslam – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: Dr. Helvetica (town)
VisceraEyes – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: Dr. Helvetica (town),
Koshi – 10ish posts, somewhat inactive.
      Reads: Raynpelikoneet (town).
Dr. Helvetica – 50+ posts, active.
      Reads: Blazinghand (scum)
WaveofShadow – 10ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Xatalos – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: none(?)
Blazinghand - 20ish posts, active.
      Reads: none(?)
Just anothertownie – 20ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Thrawn2112 – 20ish posts, almost all one-liners.
      Reads: none(?)
Mocsta – 50+ posts, active.
      Reads: Alakaslam (scum), Rayn (scum), kush (town), suchdoge (scum)
Suchdoge – 10ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Hopeless1der – sub-10 posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)


My two mayor favorites are also my top two townie reads. I do not have any scum reads based on the filters, and I don't most of the people here anyway, so I can't do much 'meta-reading'.
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Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 11 2014 22:10 GMT
#761
On January 12 2014 07:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2014 06:56 Derrida wrote:
Hey all, this is my third mafia game and first PM and first mayor game. You can find my previous games here and here. I was scum in the first one and got killed on Day1, so I’m a terrible scum player. In the second link which is an ongoing game, I am a townie.

Below is the list I’ve made while going through filters to catch-up, I wanted to share it and I will be updating it throughout the game. I am experimenting on it, but in my shadowings and coaching I received, I’ve been told that trying to visualize the connections and reads is very helpful in a mafia game. I will try it out this game. I am hoping that keeping a tab on people’s reads, votes for mayor, and activity fluctuations will make it harder for scum to go unnoticed and pressure them to keep a consistent townie persona, forcing them to slip eventually. Please let me know if I've made a mistake and/or missed any of your reads in my list.

My current mayor candidate is Dr. Helvetica, primarily because I enjoyed reading how seriously he approaches the game. I would like to play a serious game as well, hence the endorsement. I also enjoyed reading through Yamato77’s filter, he is my #2 mayor candidate. I am open to PMs and IRC discussions; though one question, why should one be careful about anonymity on IRC?

+ Show Spoiler +
Inactive players: BloodyC0bbler (1 post, no reads), chinstrap (2 posts, no reads), Bumatlarge (2 posts, no reads), Gumshoe (sub-10 posts, no reads), Captain Obvious (sub-5 posts, no reads), Mkfuba07 (2 posts, no reads), Aquanim (5 posts, no reads),

Marvellosity - 40+ posts, almost all of them 1-2 liners, states that people need to start posting more for him to start analyzing them.
Reads: Suchdoge (town), Captain Obvious (scum)
Yamato77 – 20ish posts, strives to provide reads and analysis, seems like he wants to play actively.
Reads:
Kushm4sta – 20ish posts, active.
Reads: Gumshoe (town), Thrawn (town), Alakaslam (town), Raynpelikoneet (town), justanothertownie (scum), waveofshadow (scum),
Alakaslam – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: Dr. Helvetica (town)
VisceraEyes – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: Dr. Helvetica (town),
Koshi – 10ish posts, somewhat inactive.
      Reads: Raynpelikoneet (town).
Dr. Helvetica – 50+ posts, active.
      Reads: Blazinghand (scum)
WaveofShadow – 10ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Xatalos – 20+ posts, active.
      Reads: none(?)
Blazinghand - 20ish posts, active.
      Reads: none(?)
Just anothertownie – 20ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Thrawn2112 – 20ish posts, almost all one-liners.
      Reads: none(?)
Mocsta – 50+ posts, active.
      Reads: Alakaslam (scum), Rayn (scum), kush (town), suchdoge (scum)
Suchdoge – 10ish posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)
Hopeless1der – sub-10 posts, semi-active.
      Reads: none(?)


My two mayor favorites are also my top two townie reads. I do not have any scum reads based on the filters, and I don't most of the people here anyway, so I can't do much 'meta-reading'.

My filter should indicate a townread on BH too.


Will update, thank you. Do you have any scum reads currently?
#1 Grubby Fan.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 12 2014 11:01 GMT
#1109
On January 12 2014 19:06 Mocsta wrote:
Below are my top 2 scum reads
(1) Derrida
(2)Bumatlarge




Reasoning
Derrida
  • His first post mimics his first post as scum <-- from putting himself down, to, list posting
  • He specifies how important it is to make these connections based on coaching; yet spoilers this effort <<-- again degrading the work he is presenting/
  • His connection theory is purely a count of posts and detail of what others have called scum <<- there is zero effort put into interpreting this data/
  • When VE asks for a town read to be added. Derrida non-chalantly asks for details about a scum read <<- Derrida gives zero fucks about this game
  • Lastly, Derrida excuses himself of scum hunting in his first post stating he doesnt know people so can't do meta-reading <<- Clearly gives zero fucks about this game and is finding excuses to not contribute.




Good read for most of the part. I am not scum but I am not able to give enough attention to the game due to some family issues, I am forced to be inactive (read, 2-3 not very detailed posts at most) for at least the next 24 hours. I wouldn't be too heartbroken if I get lynched, but don't really agree with your points that makes me seem more scummy than the other inactive people.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
January 12 2014 13:52 GMT
#1171
requesting to be replaced, i will not have access to computer for at least a few days, family emergency (nothing too terrible). i apologize to the host and the players for the inconvenience.
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