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On December 18 2013 05:24 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 05:22 JarJarDrinks wrote:On December 18 2013 05:14 Plutarch wrote: If we lynch grack tomorrow if I am the serial killer I get lynched the following day and lose. But If I am town and we lynch grack tomorrow town almost certainly wins. NO. And you know this isn't true so stop lying. I already explained but if this is the case then on the next day it likely becomes: 2 town 2 scum 1 SK We cant lynch you or we lose. So please explain why you're lying. I would still lose as the SK cause town would lynch me. You keep making these arguments based on my true, town, win condition and then calling me the sk. Really dumb. Actually that's not true if that was the situation because at this point town needs to lynch mafia.
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Well Sentinel said there are at least one of all of the roles so what roles scum have is quite clear. In case there are 2 cops this game is quite imbalanced for mafia so i don't think there are 2 cops. The situation is resolved the next day in a way or another.
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On December 18 2013 05:30 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 05:27 Plutarch wrote: That is true but he also assumes the SK would be shooting town which I don;t think is true at this point either. What are you talking about? We just established that if ur the SK and you shoot town, the town can't lynch you. WHy would you shoot @ scum and allow yourself to be lynched? Is there even a single person that is buying this? What are you talking about? If we have a counter-claim by someone who is a cop tomorrow then Grack is lying. If we don't we lynch Grack.
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EBWOP: If we don't we lynch DP obviously.
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On December 18 2013 05:35 Plutarch wrote:Show nested quote +On December 18 2013 05:33 Grackaroni wrote:On December 18 2013 05:31 Plutarch wrote: I love how deep these scummers are getting when they know there is a counterclaim out there. Lol you are the one trying to sell this off as a valid mafia strategy. You are boring now. You will get counterclaimed at the end of the night. Cop you have to counterclaim at the very end of the night. If Mafia snipe you and use their hide Role+Alignment ability on you town could lose. No, don't claim during the night. There is no need to.
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Oh fuck right.. That one.
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On December 18 2013 05:45 JarJarDrinks wrote: Why would Grack make this play as scum? To save someone that claimed scum? Think, people! You should ask why would he make this play if he is town and is not trying to get the SK lynched?
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On December 18 2013 05:52 Blazinghand wrote: nah actually xat more likely to flip scum and he did claim scum
I guess he's the better policy lynch Are you sure? You need to recheck. Also do you think from Blazinghand pov, did Grackaroni have good enough breadcrumbs to be cop?
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On December 18 2013 05:56 Blazinghand wrote: what was wrong with my post Nothing. I think you should have a "breadcrumb lesson" once a week. -.-
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[quote]LSB could be SK or Xigxag But if LSB is xigxag who is SK?[/b]
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On December 19 2013 03:58 Blazinghand wrote: I think what they're saying isn't that there's a 2nd cop, but that you're lying
fwiw there is a non-trivial chance there's a 2nd cop. I'd be srprised if we had 2 cops, but it's not impossible. No actually LSB is saying there is a chance of a second cop.. I don't believe in 2 cops.
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On December 19 2013 04:00 Grackaroni wrote: still silly. i've been in here trying to help town. Plutarch just throws shit onto people for supporting me It does not matter. You either get cc'd or not.
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What i would like to hear is xigxag's, Slam's and sidesprang's thoughts on this. Those guys have given no poinions, everyone else's opinions are quite known at this point.
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On December 19 2013 04:01 Grackaroni wrote: if that CC was going to happen it would have happened by now. If there was a 2nd cop it should be pretty obvious. Don't be fucking stupid. If you are lying there is no reason the real cop should claim until 1min before deadline and you know it.
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Like here is the deal: Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day. Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day. Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario.
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But checking Plutarch is stupid, because if he is town and Grack is lying scum might hit (if there is a CC and they are fast enough - or they assume a CC, whatever) him and the cop wastes a check..
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On December 19 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On December 19 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like here is the deal: Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day. Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day. Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario. No chance of scum counterclaiming me tomorrow? Come on Rayn you are better than that. If someone CC's you tomorrow we lynch them, because they have been told to claim before deadline.
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On December 19 2013 04:07 Blazinghand wrote: Man I really don't know like I know I'm supposed to be that guy who catches rayn when he's scum but if rayn is scum this game he has me fooled rather admirably. The only reason I have any suspicion of him is that when rayn is town he usually projects more of his personality. I usually get a feeling his town. There are definitely times when he's town and he doesn't do that but that's the thing that had him initially on my "what's the deal with this guy" list.
Ultimately he's not doing the obvious thing like pretending to be drunk or pushing a no lynch or anything weird like that so I don't think he's a good lynch for tomorrow You have managed to play in games where i have played like absolute crap as scum BH..  But i am not scum, there is no way i would have lynched purple if i was mafia, i'm not stupid as scum. That would have been very very stupid, when i could have just lynched Vayne.
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