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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 02:11 GMT
#896
On December 11 2013 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 11 2013 10:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:24 LSB wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:06 LSB wrote:
Probably I should include a reasoning:
Should Alakaslam continue with his play it will be incredibly difficult to get a correct read from Alakaslam or any player he 'pressures'. I don't want to waste a DT check on him, nor do I want to have him at LYLO.

I am of the belief that unless a seriously good candidate comes up, the day one lynch is probably the best time to get rid of lurkers/noncontributors.


Question. Would scum alakaslam continue posting in this manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

By that same logic would town alakaslam continue posting in the manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

He has chosen a way to play and hopefully we can discourage him from continuing with it


That's what I'm getting at, since we called him out on hit he actually switched his playstyle to a more coherent one and contributed and then reverted back to the old play intertwined with it. I see that as more of a wanting to use a strategy to discover information than survival tactics.


depends on how you look at it.

He reverted out of it once he picked up 2 quick votes and people were talking about maybe voting for him. When everything breezed over he went back to trolling. It can be twisted anyway you want it to be. From the story I just told, that's survival tactics.


Well I'd agree but the last 2 pages of his filter are coherent and thoughts, it is only that last post that was quoted that was an out of the blue revert but as LSB said that was to illicit a reaction out of someone (stop ruining plans lsb)! So, in actuality he is contributing - or more to the fact that he isn't being detrimental like he was at the start.


? i read it and it's just him spamming ice or talking about the definition of trolling and one post where he says to lynch kush. not exactly coherent I'd say
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 02:55 GMT
#908
On December 11 2013 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
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On December 11 2013 11:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:48 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:24 LSB wrote:
On December 11 2013 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
On December 11 2013 09:06 LSB wrote:
Probably I should include a reasoning:
Should Alakaslam continue with his play it will be incredibly difficult to get a correct read from Alakaslam or any player he 'pressures'. I don't want to waste a DT check on him, nor do I want to have him at LYLO.

I am of the belief that unless a seriously good candidate comes up, the day one lynch is probably the best time to get rid of lurkers/noncontributors.


Question. Would scum alakaslam continue posting in this manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

By that same logic would town alakaslam continue posting in the manner despite thread saying he'd get lynched for it? What would be the net benefit to that kind of scum play?

He has chosen a way to play and hopefully we can discourage him from continuing with it


That's what I'm getting at, since we called him out on hit he actually switched his playstyle to a more coherent one and contributed and then reverted back to the old play intertwined with it. I see that as more of a wanting to use a strategy to discover information than survival tactics.


depends on how you look at it.

He reverted out of it once he picked up 2 quick votes and people were talking about maybe voting for him. When everything breezed over he went back to trolling. It can be twisted anyway you want it to be. From the story I just told, that's survival tactics.


Well I'd agree but the last 2 pages of his filter are coherent and thoughts, it is only that last post that was quoted that was an out of the blue revert but as LSB said that was to illicit a reaction out of someone (stop ruining plans lsb)! So, in actuality he is contributing - or more to the fact that he isn't being detrimental like he was at the start.


? i read it and it's just him spamming ice or talking about the definition of trolling and one post where he says to lynch kush. not exactly coherent I'd say



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On December 10 2013 19:45 Alakaslam wrote:
I feel kind of indignant. I thought my posts had almost too obvious meaning.

I mean really...

Anyway, how I gather a read. The way I gather reads needed(eeds) to change. Past methods weren't working, I am too stoic and bland and always wrong. I gotta shake things up or start co-hosting, and if I can't understand playing the game I won't be any good at balance.

Xigxag, I wish I was quoting literature so that I could respond appropriately but I am wholly oblivious. If my light in a glass looks like Edison's work, let me assure you I am French. I am winging practically everything I say to maintain relevancy to this game.


Do scum admit they are winging everything they say?

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On December 11 2013 03:39 Alakaslam wrote:
Oh hello he had to go.

Well, bumatlarge, maybe I will ask you this: does spaghetticus/xata interactions with the flaming fury maker (sorry) tell of anything at all? I am wanting to look at this as well. See what folks think.


Also, I was the first to ask for a votecount. Does this strike you as alignment indicative, are you certain my filter is "shit"? Care to check it out?


If anything it looks like slam is genuinely in a struggle to get to grips with how to recover back to townie status. I like his general direction from the end of page 3 to now. He is showing that he is willing to drop his previous state to get into the game rather than continue with an act that nobody liked. While certain aspects need to be polished, I don't think he's a great lynch for today.


to your first question, I wing everything I say regardless of alignment so I don't see how that is relevant. That's more of a personal choice to overthink things or just type.

I think anyone would want to be considered town regardless of alignment and this is my theory:

His scum team started yelling at him to stop fucking around in his chat

or he is simply town and doesn't want to get lynched, because who does?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 03:01 GMT
#911
I would say that coming out of his persona is pretty scummy but I digress. It's more then a policy lynch from me at this point. He didn't even break persona in Time To Die after being asked to many times. The fact that he broke here so easily leads me to believe that he is not the same alignment.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:03 GMT
#935
I hope he flips town so I am actually justified in saying that he is hindering the game. If he's scum he can do whatever the fuck he wants. Read that portal game by greymist if you want to see how hard it is to lynch this guy as scum. His entire team bussed him and he still barely got lynched. nuff said.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:10 GMT
#940
Considering the decent resistance in this game at the day 1 stage I would say there is actually a decent chance for him to flip scum combined with the points I have already made. There is quite a group of people that have pretty much ignored him altogether, which is what I usually do. I would like a better reason on why we shouldn't lynch him besides "lol vigi" because we all know nobody uses their vig shots like that; they always end up being hero vig shots.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:11 GMT
#941
As I said earlier, this isn't policy lynch anymore btw. I am now starting a real discussion on why he is a good lynch.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:27 GMT
#948
I was waiting for the jabs at people going on the slam lynch. it's not scummy at all. Don't make it out to be something it isn't
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:31 GMT
#953
On December 11 2013 13:29 Pandain wrote:
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On December 11 2013 13:27 VayneAuthority wrote:
I was waiting for the jabs at people going on the slam lynch. it's not scummy at all. Don't make it out to be something it isn't

It's scummy as shit if you aren't clearly aggravated and have reads, actual reads, like holy has.

We are 46 pages in, one guy out of 18 isn't a big deal and he's probably town

Coming from someone who is often the target of policy lynches I'm surprised at your approach


how many times have I been lynched? Point made

Scum isn't going to kill slam for us. he will never go away and always linger as we get closer to lylo.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:34 GMT
#956
Let's try this the other way around

can anyone explain to me why alakaslam will not flip scum besides probability? that's one thing he has going for him.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:43 GMT
#964
Not everyone's primary language is english as this is a world site. I can barely understand him (if at all) as a native english speaker.

What is there to be gained by not lynching him pandain btw? I am approaching it from your side now. Why is alakaslam a bad lynch?
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:45 GMT
#966
I find holy's reasoning or lack of it townie considering I found him to be a paranoid player from the time to die scum qt. he would not let something like that tarnish his image as scum. He just spent pages arguing against a slam lynch and then opts to vote him. does he do that as scum? doubtful.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 04:55 GMT
#973
oh so he was being self aware. nevermind, null.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 05:15 GMT
#980
LOL.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 05:20 GMT
#981
i dont know what made you change my mind, that post is just as riddled. made my head hurt to read it since I thought it would be good
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 06:52 GMT
#992
aren't they OMGUS'ing eachother? pretty sure they both want to lynch the other
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 07:04 GMT
#996
I even explained why pandain was not in the thread, so yea that is fairly suspicious. I would have to go back and look at the timeline and see if he kept posting about pandain being the biggest lurker after I explained why
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 07:08 GMT
#998
ok so what I see is that he ignored my post so either not reading the thread or just choose to ignore it, idk which and don't really care not too relevant.

He then decides pandain is going to get replaced and not modkilled so he unvotes, so im leaning towards he isn't reading the thread. So I guess it doesn't mean much.

BUT, he now wants to go back to lynching pandain despite it being abundantly clear that he won't be lurking anymore now.

Last part is what needs to be explained
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:07 GMT
#1142
it's easy to think I was the towniest person in a game, understandable
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:11 GMT
#1146
i'm gonna NK alakaslam
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 11 2013 17:14 GMT
#1149
I have one goal today and one goal only. If you think I would help town get rid of alakaslam as scum I can't help you.
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