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On December 02 2013 14:05 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 13:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 02 2013 13:55 Mocsta wrote:On December 02 2013 13:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes of course it does not make him town for sure. He could have just forgot or maybe scum are not cooperating well.
But all in all it is a factor that should be considered. Reasonable point raised. I would rebut by adding that ?6 players didn't submit picks. I don't want to use this argument to assume all are town. The safest course of action I think is to treat this tell as null. Yeah but only 2 of them did post (more than once) and did not pick. onlywonderboy - posted but probably just forgot because replaced (made ~1 post) ticklishmusic - posted Roffles - inactive Bill Murray - inactive jaybrundage - posted nyxnyxnyx - inactive need to update your list a few of those people got replaced nyx (by lsb i think) bill and owb(you pointed owb)
Yeah that was not the purpose. The purpose was that those people who did not post at all could be anything, it's a null-tell as they were straight out inactive (i am counting OWB on this too).
What i meant was jay & ticklishmusic could be town based on them not sending in numbers. I find it hard to believe scum would forget to send in numbers as they will cooperate off-thread anyways.
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Mocsta, can you give me quick reads on the following people (a couple of words will do fine):
supersoft, geript, OdinOfPergo, Storrzerg, sandroba, gtrsrs, Oatsmaster, justanothertownie.
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jay is basically a lynchbait as town afaik.
Does not make him town, obviously, but worth of double-checking and not just blindly lynching him.
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The fact that ~80% of the players straight up refused to scumhunt before D1 speaks in jay's favor. He at least tried to tell who he thinks is scum and why.
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I think gtrsrs is one of the most transparent players in the game so far. Not gonna vote for him.
Why is VE town for you? How is VE helping the town?
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On December 02 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, can you give me quick reads on the following people (a couple of words will do fine):
supersoft, geript, OdinOfPergo, Storrzerg, sandroba, gtrsrs, Oatsmaster, justanothertownie. SS - Null. Most of his posts are setup speculation which is acceptable either alignment at this phase of the game. I admit I haven't played with a scum SS; but I also havent played with a pleasant one either. It makes me naturally assume something is different. Hes active though which is a good sign too. Yes, null. Geript - Soft town lean. Trolling Geript is null. But this Geript appears to be trying to push the thread into a certain direction - using reasoning vs slander. I also like that he is trying to make "look at me statements" to be noticed. He *wants* the attention. For this stage of the game I think thats pretty townie. OdinOfPergo - Null to soft scum lean Very setup oriented filter so i dont place a lot value in having activity. Half the stuff hes takling about I have no idea about because I'm not familiar with LoL. Hes also got an early Day0 obsession with Jay which hasn't relented, yet, he seems to be asking the opinion of others rather than talk to Jay to firm up a read?. This is kinda reminding me of how I approached Storrzerg in Mafia LXIII. Storrzerg - Null No idea, nothing really to work off Sandroba - Null Sandroba is known for good plans as town so its natural for him to easily receive buy-in // propose something conceived pre-game. Hes also known for lurking as scum. Hes given reasoning for lack of activity, so I think he will become pretty clear over the next 48hrs especially with roles being out. gtrsrs - Soft town lean I hate players like this. Troll. Its pretty light hearted, and the joke he made on Sandroba made me laugh, which is probably a good sign - as joviality is hard to fake. Most of the stuff is selfish setup talk which probably indicates town that will be useless to moving the thread forward i.e. the usual TL sign up these days.  Oatsmaster - ?? It looks like hes trying to stir the pot intentionally. He seriously couldnt think that SS vet idea was good... I honestly have no idea how to read this guy anymore, he used to have direction in his pushes as town. Tips?? Justanothertownie - Null to Soft scum lean He is uncharacteristically active/assertive. The games I played with JAT he was pretty timid. Here he is calling people stupid and just in general seems to be on edge. I find he also talks to Rayn as if auto-assuming Rayn is town. White knighting?
Interesting. I think all of those people are town.
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It's pretty weird that people are calling other people out for "doing nothing but setup speculation before D1" when basically noone has done any scumhunting at all and when someone tried some idiot shut it down.
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I don't care about explaining my town reads unless you are making a case on them.
What Roffles said about gtrsrs is totally right and MZ you didn't explain anything in your read on VE, you did not even answer my question about "how has VE been helping the town".
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On December 02 2013 15:05 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 02 2013 14:50 Mocsta wrote:On December 02 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Mocsta, can you give me quick reads on the following people (a couple of words will do fine):
supersoft, geript, OdinOfPergo, Storrzerg, sandroba, gtrsrs, Oatsmaster, justanothertownie. SS - Null. Most of his posts are setup speculation which is acceptable either alignment at this phase of the game. I admit I haven't played with a scum SS; but I also havent played with a pleasant one either. It makes me naturally assume something is different. Hes active though which is a good sign too. Yes, null. Geript - Soft town lean. Trolling Geript is null. But this Geript appears to be trying to push the thread into a certain direction - using reasoning vs slander. I also like that he is trying to make "look at me statements" to be noticed. He *wants* the attention. For this stage of the game I think thats pretty townie. OdinOfPergo - Null to soft scum lean Very setup oriented filter so i dont place a lot value in having activity. Half the stuff hes takling about I have no idea about because I'm not familiar with LoL. Hes also got an early Day0 obsession with Jay which hasn't relented, yet, he seems to be asking the opinion of others rather than talk to Jay to firm up a read?. This is kinda reminding me of how I approached Storrzerg in Mafia LXIII. Storrzerg - Null No idea, nothing really to work off Sandroba - Null Sandroba is known for good plans as town so its natural for him to easily receive buy-in // propose something conceived pre-game. Hes also known for lurking as scum. Hes given reasoning for lack of activity, so I think he will become pretty clear over the next 48hrs especially with roles being out. gtrsrs - Soft town lean I hate players like this. Troll. Its pretty light hearted, and the joke he made on Sandroba made me laugh, which is probably a good sign - as joviality is hard to fake. Most of the stuff is selfish setup talk which probably indicates town that will be useless to moving the thread forward i.e. the usual TL sign up these days. Oatsmaster - ?? It looks like hes trying to stir the pot intentionally. He seriously couldnt think that SS vet idea was good... I honestly have no idea how to read this guy anymore, he used to have direction in his pushes as town. Tips?? Justanothertownie - Null to Soft scum lean He is uncharacteristically active/assertive. The games I played with JAT he was pretty timid. Here he is calling people stupid and just in general seems to be on edge. I find he also talks to Rayn as if auto-assuming Rayn is town. White knighting? Interesting. I think all of those people are town. I just mislynched in MYLO. Excuse me if I'm cautious. Can u please explain me the oats town read.
I lied i can explain this on.
When Oats asks ridiculously stupid things, especially from me, he is town.
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Oats what did you try to pick?
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On December 02 2013 15:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn I'd be interested to see where you think I discredited you for no reason.
In about half of your posts.
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How is this so hard MZ? Tell me how VE is helping the town. Where is he transparent and contributing to proving his towniness? Can you actually quote some posts of his and tell how they help the town instead of giving a textbook town qualities and say "VE fits into the category of people who do these things"?
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On December 02 2013 15:29 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like if this is how you're going to play then I'll just ignore you - I think you're probably town but that doesn't mean I have to read a fucking thing you say rayn.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 01 2013 01:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 22:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Are you planning on dedicating this game to shitting on me? Because that's all you are doing atm. Posts like this make rayn deserve all the shit he's so tired of getting. Worthy of my ire, worthy of my ignore button, but not worthy of a lynch. <3 On December 01 2013 02:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2013 21:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i don't wanna play in a game where people say making bad posts is a town-tell for anyone and where people say i can't have a scumread on someone based on that they are incapable of posting 10 times / phase as scum.
I honestly don't give a fuck if you lynch me. I couldn't care less because lately TL town have been absolutely crap. Me + Risen should get top 2 spots and then we just shoot stupidity. That's the best plan. Oh look more rayn being a pompous jerkoff. *yawn* On December 01 2013 13:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn is a filthy liar when he says he can read me. Do you think he thinks he can lie and get away with it as scum?
There. Can you explain to me what any of those posts are supposed to achieve other than saying "rayn is bad"?
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Interesting read on geript VE & Oats. Do you remember what he did in LXII?
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On December 02 2013 15:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How is this so hard MZ? Tell me how VE is helping the town. Where is he transparent and contributing to proving his towniness? Can you actually quote some posts of his and tell how they help the town instead of giving a textbook town qualities and say "VE fits into the category of people who do these things"? Did you actually read what I wrote? Everyone acts "townie" slightly differently. In VE's case that is characterized by not very thought out posts, chain of conscious type posts, frustration and aggression when people call him scum, and genuine attempts at analysis. All of which are in this game. I'm not gonna go back and quote his entire post history. Forget for a second that he called you an annoying jerk-off and reread what he's written and tell me where the scum agenda is.
But there is no analysis. Not a single one. On before D1 i mean.
I can't understand how you can possibly have a town read on him based on N0.
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VE a question to you. Do you think MZ's sread on you is legit? Based on N0 i mean. Do you think you provided analysis?
Would you say it was reasonable to have a strong enough town read on you for anyone?
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Yo calm down dude. You look better and better as we go on. ^^
Could you answer my post about MZ?
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##Unvote:
yeah VE has to be town. :p
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Ugh.. i really disagree on the read on gtrsrs.
I also completely disagree with MZ's "meta" read on you VE.
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On December 02 2013 15:58 Roffles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 15:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Gtrsrs just didnt really post anything after day 1. I think its far more likely for scum to do that because they dont see anything instantly to contribute, he just bitched about not getting khazix If he's scum, what's to gain from posting really dumb shit instead of just staying quiet like half the players?
..especially when scum have just found out if they have a role or not and have not had time to plan on how to proceed with claiming and stuff.
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