PYP: League of Legends Mafia - Page 38

First there is this, that's reasonable.


but then:

Risen
Oh man that's an incredibly good point :O

Another completely off the wall thing is that he got inventor because he was able to choose it first knowing what X number of people were submitting as their numbers which helped him/other mafia members a lot. It wouldn't entirely surprise me to see more mafia near the top of the first list than near the bottom.

raynpelikoneet
Too bad it's impossible to even try to get anyone understand that in thread.

raynpelikoneet
/m66: Koshi CLAIMED he got hit with 50 kp on D2. Chezinu role-copped me and OUTED my other power in thread on D2. STILL mafia did not kill Koshi. idk if that does not in itself make him scum what does? Why would you NOT kill inventor when you can at the same time incriminate me (saying why did you not protect him - you are lying)? There is literally no reason other than Koshi is mafia.

Risen
Man I used to think masons were useless, but talking things out with you is helping me keep my thoughts in line and paranoia isn't taking over.

Risen
Nah I'm town. I just like being alive at endgame. Just a pleasure thing.

And yeah that's actually a really good point about koshi rofl. Like, if scum hit him then they'd probably continue hitting him n2 under the assumption he was going to die right?

raynpelikoneet
My other ability was one shot, it made the target immune to 2 first abilities used on him for 4 phases, it also gave them -4 votes on the following 2 days. I used it on Koshi N1 and fakeclaimed it nullifies all damage and abilities done to them.

Apparently someone was able to hit Koshi with 50 kp on N1, so i am a bit puzzled why scum did not kill Koshi on N2. (probably because he is scum rofl)

raynpelikoneet
haha, are you a third party?
and no, i am not scum.

if the person i target sends in KP whoever they target gets reflected to me instead and the KP does only half damage.
It's like a lightning rod but it absorbs half of the dmg.

Risen
I'm fine with Mocsta (as in I'm fine with you choosing him)

Risen
I can't actually remember what you do. Taunt draws stuff to you at half dmg, what does your other ability do? Because I feel like you got fucked rofl. Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to suicide yourself attempting to protect other people while not knowing their alignment and having no way of finding that information out.... :<

Risen
Meh, I don't particularly care if you're scum. I just want to be alive at endgame. So if you're scum plz tell your team not to shoot me :< Hahaha

raynpelikoneet
I don't even think if my power works on scum KP but i need to believe it does because otherwise i am useless as fuck. The role is bullshit if that's the case. What's the point of drawing some shitty 50-100 KP onto yourself? The role would be "you can BLOCK 1/20 of the nightkill". wow.. so useful.. rofl :D

raynpelikoneet
tbh if you are scum masoning me would have been a really good plan. I actually already had sent in my power on you, because you masoning me and then sending in scum KP would have been brilliant and the fact that it's really hard to hit the night kill sender.

but the stupidity of people in thread forces me to believe you are town, like i can't think of anything else unless all my reads are crap and town is effectively shooting themselves, so i changed the target to Mocsta. I don't really think jcarl is mafia, he gave me the lantern after all for N1. And even if he is i think he is unlikely to send in scum KP as he is considered scum for some people. I think Mocsta is my best bet.

Risen
I am forced to agree :/

Even if ss is town JAT comes away looking really bad from that. I like how he's got me as a solid town read now in spite of the fact that he shot me last night and I've literally done nothing today. Too much scum.

raynpelikoneet
i'm gonna go buy some cigarrettes. I'll be back in about 15-20min if you wanna chat.

raynpelikoneet
Like who the hell says "supersoft didn't even shoot you and if he did it was rayn's fault". wtf is that supposed to achieve?

raynpelikoneet
haha you are right!
i do not really care about what's going on in thread since it's quite clear i'm not listened to so i'd rather focus on the other game going on and talk with you here.

Risen
Shit happens. I'm shielding you as I don't particularly want to be in the game anymore. Plus, your taunt seems pretty damn useful and if scum actually manages to not kill me then we can keep doing whatever we want lol. The potential for you to absorb 600KP is just too good.

raynpelikoneet
omfg those people. i can't believe someone even suggest that dumb bullshit.

raynpelikoneet
Your choise, but if you don't and scum shoot me they effectively kill us both. rofl.
Anyone asking to shield ss or anyone besides us is ridiculous imo.

Risen
I'm doing well. Shield ss is hilarious, though. Plan still for me to shield you tonight?

raynpelikoneet
I have pretty much nothing to say. Thread is doing something, probably gonna shoot a townie. I don't really care.
How are you? ^^

Risen
Man I had forgotten about Roffles, too!

raynpelikoneet
and rean.

raynpelikoneet
people who should die:
-superoft
-koshi
-onegu
-LSB
-Mig
-Roffles(?)
-mocsta(?)

-jcarl(?)

raynpelikoneet
hmm, jcarl is a decent pick i agree.

Risen
I'd guess jcarl. What the hell happened to him? See? Perfect guy to send in. I wouldn't have even thought of him if I wasn't actively trying to think about him.

raynpelikoneet
/m43: hmm i dunno about him. i'd say if he does not die this or the next night we should strongly consider him scum. There is no way scum will leave a town medic alive like that when they can hit him basically "for free".

Let's do the plan right? Use your shield on me i try to find someone to use my power on. Let's see if we can hit the scum KP delivery with it. We should not take enough damage to die in any case as my power halves the dmg if i hit correctly.

Who would you suggest is the most likely person to send in scum KP?

Risen
So ticklish...

Risen
Nice job with Coag

Risen
Wait, so it says how much someone took? Oh shit I misread my PM and thought I had X50 not X00

Risen
I don't fully understand the ambulance radio. What does it do?

As far as the 1hp dmg it could possibly be a clever mechanic like "if you take dmg tonight deal the amount of health you have remaining as dmg to a target or as a reflection" I don't know how it works in game.

Risen
My mantra can be used every night but not on consecutive abilities.

Mantra for masoning means I mason AND jail
Mantra for shield splits the 300 single target shield into 2 shields for 150 on my target and I

Risen
I took 375, not 325, I'm serious haha.

My PMs from the hosts last night went
You have X-275 HP.
then another at end of night that said
You have X-375 HP.

raynpelikoneet
Mafia plan was obviously to hit sandroba with 1 kp until he uses his power and then kill him.
What does this tell you? Koshi invented the ambulance radio.
1) Koshi is scum and therefore mafia knows they should not risk hitting sandroba with 1 KP like N1 because it outs them in case sandroba uses his power.
2) They took a risk and hit sandroba with some other amount of dmg. I dunno what that would be, i would bet ticklish has something to do with that. maybe they have a power that let's them save KP and use it the next night (849 + 1 from N1 would make sense).

In any case it incriminates supersoft and Koshi imo.

raynpelikoneet
I seriously don't know who is mafia because noone is playing the game.
- i think supersoft knows sandroba used his reflection last night and is scum
- Koshi is full of shit and i think he is scum
- ticklish could know too much as you suggest, that would mean he used KP on sandroba and it reflected back to him
- Coag still most likely mafia
- Onegu probably scum because of his "i'll read now" and then not following up on it
- Rean is a beacon of uselessness, same can be said about LSB, Mig, etc.. bleh.. like fucking everyone.

I'm really frustrated because noone is trying. it's basically impossible to to do anything. I'm probably not going to post in thread any more, let's just chat here, it's far more useful than arguing with those idiots.

I think Mocsta and sandroba are town, and that's basically it, anyone else could be mafia..

raynpelikoneet
Also why did you say you took 375 dmg when you took 325?

raynpelikoneet
Do you know what your Mantra does if you use it in addition to your other powers?

raynpelikoneet
I am pretty sure Koshi is scum unless hosts made the inventor role completely useless or made it random in sense of "yolo we do not tell you what your inventions do".
I think Koshi is just straight out lying.

raynpelikoneet
If JAT keeps shooting you he claims scum. I just explained in thread why you have to be town. I think it would be better to taunt the player we think is going to send in mafia KP.
As if JAT keeps shooting you he claims scum and if we guess correctly we out mafia.

Risen
I vote you taunt JAT tonight since I actually do think he's going to continue shooting me. He doesn't do more than 300, though, so I'm going to mantra shield which will shield the both of us for 150. Then I'm going to pray scum doesn't deal more than my hp pool in dmg to me >.<

Risen
Haha you're on a roll in thread man.

raynpelikoneet
Let's see if anyone still thinks you are mafia.
Easy catches. ^_^

raynpelikoneet
I am going to suggest that Koshi invents a KP and gives it to you. That's the best thing he can do imo.
Then we can decide a shot on D4.

raynpelikoneet
/m25 yeah that's a pretty good plan! ^^

Risen
I'm actually ok with killing Onegu for not following through on a promise as a policy lynch. TL needs more of those. Caog should go first, though.

Risen
I only block 300KP with my shield but that means combined with your taunt you can absorb 600dmg from the person you're taunting :O

raynpelikoneet
/m19: Onegu needs to die because he promised to do something and didn't do it. I am sick of people promising to do stuff and not following it up.

raynpelikoneet
Oh shit, Prome was Kha'Zix. Okay that basically proves Coag is mafia. He can't have gotten a nuke himself, and no townie would ever give a nuke to Coag and he said the nuke was not his but "i got a nuke". So someone must have given it to him. Kha'Zix was the only role that Coag could possibly be if he was town.

raynpelikoneet
I think Coagulation is this:
Kha'Zix - Evolution - Survival of the fittest! As a dangerous predator, every full day/night you survive you gain a new ability! You may choose which one you want. If you gain all abilities, your restrictions are removed.

raynpelikoneet
Brainfart. I mean both of ticklish and VE can't be scum. One of them maybe, but i dunno how VE did 479 dmg to ticklish as he claimed.

raynpelikoneet
I don't think ticklish is mafia unless VE is. VE claimed to be responsible of ticklish's 749 damage. If ticklish is town he will most likely die on next night anyways since he has a protective role.

On the other hand, if you put the shield on me, does any abilities used on us both target both of us? I mean, you are talking about this:
Inspire - At night, you can grant a shield to any other player. This shield lasts only for the phase in which it is used. Right?

What if i use this:
Shadow Dash - Ninja'd! Each night, you may taunt target player, redirecting all damaging abilities he tried to perform onto yourself. They only do half damage.

Does your power mean we are immune to damage unless roleblocked? If that's so, we are basically a roleblocker that can block mafia hits.
You protect us both, i draw mafia KP (if picked the right person) to ourselves, but as you protect us we take no dmg.

Risen
Onegu needs to be hammered for not having reads, but he just did the same thing last game I think. I feel like ticklish knows too much...

Risen
I think he's scum for not pressuring me harder and trying to blend his soft push. So we're in agreement on that front. I don't know if he's my top scum read, though.

raynpelikoneet
Yeah.
I think JonnyLaw is scum for what i said in thread. It makes no sense to me that he has changed his read on me and kush. What do you think of it?

Risen
Damn the thread is dead lol

Risen
I don't find it too absurd. I do find it unbelievable that he would shoot a doctor as town, though. I'm not really worried about him getting me lynched, more worried about the fact that he has chunked almost all of my life.

raynpelikoneet
That's actually a good idea. Jailing me or shielding both of us. It makes sense.
I find it absurd JAT calls you more useless than Rean & Coag. lol.

Risen
Mason lasts for 2 days, btw. So we could get a third person in here if you felt it was more useful than the shield.

Risen
I wanted to talk to you. I didn't think anyone would shoot either of us. I plan on going Shield > Mason > Shield > Mason > Shield > Mason etc the rest of the game. I shield both of us when I shield, btw. If you find yourself in need of protection I can jail you as well while maintaining the mason.

raynpelikoneet
Uhm, btw, why do you use mason instead of shield?

Risen
So now I'm fucked. I'm town and made a post just now that looks like a scum slip. This is why I'm shadowing Prom when I get the chance to. I really was hoping we could be a cool two man duo :<

Risen
What's up with JAT, though? Him finding you scummy I can understand... shooting me because he finds you scummy I can not.

raynpelikoneet
Yeah i also think at least LSB is scum.
jcarl's actions make sense besides the last night. He apparently thought he would die on N2, rofl. That sounds dumb to me.

Risen
I actually haven't read the thread... I had to take an impromptu trip to Arizona to pick up a business partner and it has turned into a five day stay. That sounds incredibly scummy, but isn't that too obvious?

As for your second point I can get behind that. At least when I'm being useless I don't shit up the thread. You have a good point about him in Aperture in spite of that usually being a "town tell".

I am still working off LSB/jcarl scum reads. They might be outdated, but I've tunneled fairly hard onto them and I didn't see anything yesterday to sway me that much off them.

raynpelikoneet
Did you read the thread? He said he received nuke and nuked marv/Fuba. Then he said he tried to nuke Meapak but his nuke works in a way that he selects 2 people, and the one of those two who posts first gets nuked. rofl that's so bad.

Othr than that he is so useless. He is useless as town aswell but here he is so so useless. remember Aperture in where he didn't even know what phase it was and he was scum?

Who do you think is scum?

Risen
I've got your six Gold leader! I figure we can use this as our own little "scum v2 but this time hopefully we're both town but I don't actually care I just wanted to be on a team this game" QT.

Why are we lynching Coag?

raynpelikoneet
Let's lynch Coagulation shall we?

raynpelikoneet
hey Risen!

Risen
RAYN!