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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2013 17:26 GMT
#6961
On December 14 2013 02:14 Koshi wrote:
hmm. If super would have rb MZ then you get scum mvp rayn. if you are town.


ps: stop ignoring me. I am totes sorry I wanted to lynch you for a couple hours. You wanted to lynch me for multiple days.

This is why i don't bother talking to you. In this game you have had 2 reads before D4, "Onegu totes town and Odin totes scum, Onegu case so good". And you fucking dare to call me scum MVP.
table for two on a tv tray
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 17:45 GMT
#6962
On December 14 2013 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 02:14 Koshi wrote:
hmm. If super would have rb MZ then you get scum mvp rayn. if you are town.


ps: stop ignoring me. I am totes sorry I wanted to lynch you for a couple hours. You wanted to lynch me for multiple days.

This is why i don't bother talking to you. In this game you have had 2 reads before D4, "Onegu totes town and Odin totes scum, Onegu case so good". And you fucking dare to call me scum MVP.

hmmm. you are a difficult one.
I had a good night of sleep.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 13 2013 17:46 GMT
#6963
It makes sense thinking about it why you took 100 dmg. You redirected supersoft to hit you with his roleblock which negated your taunting power.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 13 2013 17:47 GMT
#6964
On December 14 2013 02:46 Mig wrote:
It makes sense thinking about it why you took 100 dmg. You redirected supersoft to hit you with his roleblock which negated your taunting power.


Untargetable
Redirects
Roleblocks
Time delay
Items/traps
KP/shields/deaths
Heals
Signup list switches/checks


Taunt (redirect)
SS Card (roleblock)
Damage

logic checks out
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2013 17:49 GMT
#6965
On December 14 2013 02:46 Mig wrote:
It makes sense thinking about it why you took 100 dmg. You redirected supersoft to hit you with his roleblock which negated your taunting power.

It kinda makes sense but then it doesn't.
Like both of our powers block each others power but they both still go through..
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 13 2013 17:51 GMT
#6966
On December 14 2013 02:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2013 02:46 Mig wrote:
It makes sense thinking about it why you took 100 dmg. You redirected supersoft to hit you with his roleblock which negated your taunting power.

It kinda makes sense but then it doesn't.
Like both of our powers block each others power but they both still go through..


Gotta look at hierarchy. You change his target to you. He throws card at you. Card roleblocks you, so you don't negate damage. Full damage goes through.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 13 2013 17:53 GMT
#6967
I am just going to assume that is why you took 100 damage.

On the list redirects happen before roleblocks. So you could still taunt super even with Risen trying to hold you in place?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2013 17:55 GMT
#6968
I am still very puzzled about where the 25 dmg came from last night. If Risen is mafia i don't see any other explanation than that Mocsta is mafia too.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 13 2013 18:00 GMT
#6969
It is the only thing that makes sense to me. Risen mantrad n1 to try and add a semi roleblock to his mason. But your redirect power supersedes it. Or it is still possible Risen has a hidden ability.

Anyway tho. Even if I wanted to believe Risen there just isn't any other possible rbers out there, besides a small chance that kush or roffles are a full time rber. And even then why rb risen of all people. It seems like Risen lied about being rbd so he could use mantra/other ability.

Yes it really fits if mocsta is mafia and has been lying about what type of Vanilla he is. It seems a weird thing to lie about but looking at mocsta's posts there are definitely inconsistencies in there. And why did he take 150 damage last night. Do we really believe mafia just randomly hit mocsta of all people with 150 damage?

So I say all the town kp should focus mocsta. I will get a hp check back on him and we will have an idea about whether he is telling the truth about his life or not.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 18:05 GMT
#6970
Mocsta got a big filter. Don't know if he fits with the current scummers imo. Look here.

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 09 2013 11:24 Mocsta wrote:
Extending from Koshi's take on MZ<-->Coag interplay

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 16:41 Coagulation wrote:
I had to pick 2 people and when i sent the action in pm and the first one to post after gets nuked

Picked mkfuba07 cause he wasnt here and meap cause i wanted to kill him.

I was pressuring meap cause I wanted him to post back but he left as soon as I did it and mkfuba07 posted right fucking after with like the worst fucking timing in the world.

This makes zero fucking sense


Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 15:40 Coagulation wrote:
##Nuke Meapak_Ziphh

FOR FREEDOM

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 08 2013 15:40 Coagulation wrote:
##Nuke Meapak_Ziphh

FOR FREEDOM

Wow really?

fuck you coag this is such bullshit.
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 15:49 mkfuba07 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
OK, I apparently suck at explaining things. To be more clear:

Crown of Solomon
May only be used at night, must be used the night I obtained it, is one-shot
Three players are selected:
Player X
Player Y
Player Z
Two parity checks are made, and we are not made aware of the results.
if X and Y are "same", and X and Z are "different", then Z dies
if X and Y are "different", and X and Z are "same", then Y dies
If both parity checks come back with the same result, then X dies

What happened last night: I submitted X: mkfuba, Y:Koshi, Z: MZ

I then received a message saying that the item didn't activate. None of the three died.

Based on this, I don't see how we can draw a conclusion other than "for some reason, the crown didn't go off".

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 15:50 Mid or Feed wrote:
A giant muddafuckin' bomb has been spotted flying towards mkfuba07!



Again for the goldfish memory
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 16:41 Coagulation wrote:
I had to pick 2 people and when i sent the action in pm and the first one to post after gets nuked


#1 - As Koshi pointed out. It was semi-reasonable for Coag to nuke MZ, given that MZ was requesting KP on Coag.

#2 - MZ was a reasonable nuke choice based on him being under suspicion by several townies. I think this is exactly why you specified MZ was the nuke choice in thread.

#3 - If you had to PM the action, *WHY* declare a nuke on MZ in the first place.. If one of them had to talk.. why not ask them a question, and then once they are responding - PM the host. That way you guarantee the right nuke selection.

#4 - (WIFOM) But I would think its safe to assume the nuke PM went through approximately when the thread action was declared. It is clear, MZ was the only poster around this time. In fact, Fuba previous post to that was 3hrs prior.
Thus, for Coag to *not* be bullshitting, Coag had to submit the thread action @ 15:40; and PM it @ 15:42 ( = MZ last post). I find this unlikely. Normal action is PM first, then thread.

I have no idea why Coag would fake a nuke claim on MZ, and then nuke openly Fuba.
I can only assume for now it will be explained by the role PM.
But its clear the process behind the nuke is total bullshit & deceptive ==> scum usage vs town usage.



Further my two association reads:

#1
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
*snip*

Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

*snip*
See how distant is he talking about this. Its great he see's no town motivation; but this doesnt explain why he see's no motivation.

This is just echoing thread sentiment.

Pls Lynch


#2
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 14:48 Coagulation wrote:
So scum isnt really interested in pushing the coag mislynch wagon now that he gots a nuke.. is that what im picking up here?
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 15:30 Coagulation wrote:
Kush is like the only one on the ball taking names making reads and calling shots for town. And he just admitted he has absolutely no fucking clue what hes talking about.

This town is so completely fucked on so many levels.
Coag who has nothing in his filter suddenly feels the need to give Kush some praise?

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 14:54 kushm4sta wrote:
coag is town. that's what the last two posts tell me.

On December 08 2013 14:48 Coagulation wrote:
So scum isnt really interested in pushing the coag mislynch wagon now that he gots a nuke.. is that what im picking up here?

actually a really nonscum post. I imagine it would be pretty hard for scumcoag to come up with an idea like this.
Coags post is completely non-alignment indicative. And Kush is giving the stupidest reason possible to treat this post as alignment indicative (i.e. lack of respect --> which is far from a quantitative method).

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 18:43 Mocsta wrote:
kush

why are you treating coags claim as gospel.
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 18:44 kushm4sta wrote:
because i think it's really hard to make that shit up.

He could be scum I suppose, but I doubt he is lying about the power.
Again, poor/weak reasoning to give Coag a town lean; and then leaves himself a backdoor to vote Coag.

Pls lynch

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 18:05 GMT
#6971
We only need to kill 2 more scummers. I think it is more likely it is Risen + jayB?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 18:06 GMT
#6972
Also, if jayB and Risen are linked. Can't we just kill jayB? Or is he protected by Risen as well?
I had a good night of sleep.
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
December 13 2013 18:09 GMT
#6973
I could be ok going after jay also. But if Risen is mafia why did rayn take 25 damage? Mafia wouldn't shoot rayn if they knew risen wasn't going to use his shield right?

Koshi we cant believe anything Risen says if we think he is mafia. There is no way to know whether he is actually linked.

Looking at jaybs filter he went insanely hard after Austin. Which helped to save MZ. Certainly pretty suspicious. And I have always been suspicious that he supposedly tried to take lux with one of the final picks. Should have been obvious by then somebody else would try to take lux.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 13 2013 18:11 GMT
#6974
On December 14 2013 03:05 Koshi wrote:
We only need to kill 2 more scummers. I think it is more likely it is Risen + jayB?


On December 13 2013 22:19 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2013 20:20 Koshi wrote:
I just saw that there is a 6th member on the scumteam because JL was the coach. omg. still 2 peepz.


I think there might be 7 scum, cuz M_Z was MonteCristo (who is a caster who has a super hard on for SKT), which means we have a bit more work to do.


If my conjecture is true, we have 3 more to kill.

On December 14 2013 03:06 Koshi wrote:
Also, if jayB and Risen are linked. Can't we just kill jayB? Or is he protected by Risen as well?


If they're linked, JayB shouldn't also be protected. But that's also assuming Risen actually linked them.

Rayn - when you were masoned, did it go through immediately? Or were you masoned when Day post hit?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 13 2013 18:17 GMT
#6975
@ the day post.
table for two on a tv tray
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 13 2013 18:18 GMT
#6976
So then this entire plan of shooting me tonight to get risen and JayB wouldn't work anyway. I'm really excited to make Risen hang tomorrow, at the very least.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 18:19 GMT
#6977
rayn, my best friend,
did you tell Risen you were going to taunt Mocsta?

I read your mason but forgot.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 18:22 GMT
#6978
Risen is like 100% scum. There really is no way he got RB night 1.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 18:25 GMT
#6979
On December 14 2013 03:09 Mig wrote:
I could be ok going after jay also. But if Risen is mafia why did rayn take 25 damage? Mafia wouldn't shoot rayn if they knew risen wasn't going to use his shield right?

Koshi we cant believe anything Risen says if we think he is mafia. There is no way to know whether he is actually linked.

Looking at jaybs filter he went insanely hard after Austin. Which helped to save MZ. Certainly pretty suspicious. And I have always been suspicious that he supposedly tried to take lux with one of the final picks. Should have been obvious by then somebody else would try to take lux.

rayn took 25 damage because Risen is scum and they tried to frame Mocsta. There is no way that Mocsta is a caster creep tbh, I read what you said but why would Mocsta lie about being a caster creep if he is a siege creep. Such a strange lie.

Look at how coincidental this is.
1) Mocsta claims a caster creep for no reason at all while he is a siege creep
2) Risen "forgets" to do his night actions.
3) rayn taunts Mocsta

= rayn and Risen get 25 damage that can only be from Mocsta.


Way more logical is because scummers are sneaky bastards:
1) Mocsta is a siege creep.
2) Risen didn't forget his shield, he just used it on a scummer.
3) Risen knows rayn will taunt Mocsta and frames Mocsta by doing 25 damage to rayn.

(I don't know how much hp Mocsta has atm, but it should be 1k right? he got 150 damage somewhere?
The first time he said he had 1k hp was maybe to trick the scummers.)
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 13 2013 18:26 GMT
#6980
And maybe scummers hold a sheet with hp and stuff, and they hit Mocsta for 150hp so he would fall down to 850 and he would look like a caster creep.
I had a good night of sleep.
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