EPTI don't think hosts would do that so i think you are lying.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I don't think hosts would do that so i think you are lying. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
if scum were inventor would they really lie about it like this? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 09 2013 19:46 kushm4sta wrote: rayn I dont understand this completely, but koshi's story kind of seems too complex to be a lie. if scum were inventor would they really lie about it like this? In case people pressure Koshi to out what his invention does (like he says) and he is not the inventor but someone else in his team is, or he does not know what he wants his team to say about it. Do you think hosts would not tell Koshi what he invented? That would be really stupid in my opinion. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On December 09 2013 17:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also it does not make sense for Risen to lie about the roleblock because i would have been dead already at this point if that was the case. He's basically fucking over his team if he is mafia with his plan. It makes no sense. I want to hear why JAT believes Risen is more scummy than Rean. He said "because Risen just voted for austin's lynch". Guess what, so did Rean, aactually that's the only thing Rean has done in this game besides... shooting austin on D1.. JAT you need to explain why Risen is more scummy than Rean considering the things i have just pointed out. First things first: I have to admit I didn't think about the roleblock when shooting Risen. Yeah, you can call me bad for that. Still I don't think it makes that much of a difference. I don't really get your explanation for why Risen couldn't lie about being roleblocked while doing something else. Now you claim to have created some kind of plan in your qt. Nice to know. I would prefer it if Risen would just start to PLAY THE FUCKING GAME. Also given the fact that you may very well be mafia the plan is possibly fucked anyways even if Risen is town. You can't seriously compare Rean voting austin with Risen voting austin. Rean was the first person to vote him while Risen only switched when MZ was in danger to be lynched instead. I don't say Rean is town but the voting of Risen definitely looked scummier to me. Especially because of this gem: On December 07 2013 11:52 Risen wrote: What else is new, though!  This post makes me think you're scum trying to drop a wifom bomb before you die. Now to this: On December 09 2013 18:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then make something better. But be sure that's better and kills mafia. Right now your inventions have not found single mafia. You invent a check. You out the person you gave the check for no reason. Of course he's gonna get roleblocked. Smells fishy. You invent the ambulance radio. Did that find scum? I doubt. Did that find townies? Not really as people are idiots and won't claim doing damage. If you had invented the police radio we could be sure of VE's alignment because it had shown if he did try to check someone or not. There is also a possibility of a tracker & watcher in the game so those reports would have been outed aswell. So yeah, unless you make something useful do as i say. Right now tbh you have been the most useless inventor i have ever seen in a PYP game... That being said. This is why Risen is town. Look at what his mason does. It makes me and him lovers. So: Risen scum - rayn town: Does not make sense. If Risen is scum he effectively just made himself to take all the damage in this game i take. He has already taken damage so by that way mafia can't possibly hit me. Makes sense, when he could just protect his scumbuddy instead? If anyone thinks he would do that, all i can say is rofl. Risen scum - rayn scum: Good job Risen, you just made two scum lovers. Best plan 2013. rofl. Therefore, even if you do not think i am town Risen using his ability on me (or on anyone) does not make any sense because he could just use the doc on scumbuddy instead. He is town. Why would you take damage if you are town and he is scum? Mafia won't hit you in this case and I don't think any townie would either. If you are both scum it makes a little less sense I admit but it is not impossible because I think the possibility of townies shooting you are as low as in the other case. As far as I know his ability lasts only 2 phases so he is far less comitted to this than you are trying to make us believe. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Yes i think Koshi is more likely to be mafia. Could you read what i wrote about him and comment on it please. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On December 09 2013 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote: JAT, do you not know how lovers would work? Why wouldn't I? You have to keep in mind that they aren't real lovers though. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
That being said the only person who should visit us next night is a possible watcher. In case they see someone visiting us they are likely scum. If a tracker sees someone visiting us they are likely scum. My plan is to block mafia KP. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 09 2013 20:10 justanothertownie wrote: Why wouldn't I? You have to keep in mind that they aren't real lovers though. We are for D3 and N3. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On December 09 2013 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh you are right JAT. Anyways, the plan i made makes it hard for mafia. You can consider Risen for a lynch tomorrow. I agree he should be playing the game instead of lurking. He has some good ideas in QT. What i am saying is even if he is mafia he is not a good lynch for today. Or a good shot for next night. No townie should visit either of us the next night. We'll see about what he does tomorrow okay? In case one of us dies it is going to be either both of us or only Risen. I'll tell you tomorrow what our plan was. It's really good. I will also push him for his reads in QT, so far he has been really cooperative and gave pro-town ideas for his powers. In case we both die it does not matter because you will know both of our alignments. Deal? Yes i think Koshi is more likely to be mafia. Could you read what i wrote about him and comment on it please. Fine, I won't shoot either of you N3. Still I don't get why he is so pro town/has good ideas and shit in your qt but doesn't bother in the thread. What you said about Koshi makes some sense I guess (will have another look at it later). It is weird that he doesn't get to know how his own invention really works in the end but I won't be gaming the hosts here. Also, why do you bring that up now and didn't do so much earlier? | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
Yeah, but you only take damage/effects together you don't necessarily die together like lovers since you probably have significantly more HP than Risen left me thinks. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I don't think it's gaming the hosts. This is close to the same situation we had with Holyflare claiming squib with powers in Hogwarts if you remember. Koshi claims his role works in different way than hosts have it written in OP. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 09 2013 20:17 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, but you only take damage/effects together you don't necessarily die together like lovers since you probably have significantly more HP than Risen left me thinks. That's my point, why would he do what he did as mafia regardless of my affiliation? If he is scum he makes me not considered as mafia hit (noone should doc us next night btw). If i am scum too he makes us both exposed to town KP. It makes no sense when he can just doc a scumbuddy instead.. | ||
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On December 09 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Risen thinks Coagulation should die for his "nuke". He also think Onegu should die for not following through on a promise as a policy lynch and for not having reads. He thinks jcarl and LSB are scum and he thinks ticklish knows too much. I don't know what the last thing is about and i explained ticklish will most likely die soon anyways if he is town. He thinks JL is scum for not pressuring him harder and trying to blend his soft push. He asked me to taunt JAT the next night which seems reasonable since he thinks JAT will keep shooting him. I told him i will not most likely do that because i think anyone who shoots us effectively claims mafia because of what we are about to do. That being said the only person who should visit us next night is a possible watcher. In case they see someone visiting us they are likely scum. If a tracker sees someone visiting us they are likely scum. My plan is to block mafia KP. I guess everybody thinks coag should die for this - the question is do we lynch him or do we shoot him (lynching is probably safer). I think jcarl looks rather townie than scummy and I would be highly surprised if ticklish was scum taking that much confirmed damage. Why would you taunt me? If I shot you I would hit Risen aswell. I don't understand. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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justanothertownie
16320 Posts
On December 09 2013 20:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's my point, why would he do what he did as mafia regardless of my affiliation? If he is scum he makes me not considered as mafia hit (noone should doc us next night btw). If i am scum too he makes us both exposed to town KP. It makes no sense when he can just doc a scumbuddy instead.. This is getting too speculative for my liking. I will just wait and see what happens. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On December 09 2013 20:22 justanothertownie wrote: I guess everybody thinks coag should die for this - the question is do we lynch him or do we shoot him (lynching is probably safer). I think jcarl looks rather townie than scummy and I would be highly surprised if ticklish was scum taking that much confirmed damage. Why would you taunt me? If I shot you I would hit Risen aswell. I don't understand. I take only half damage. Basically here is what we are going to do: Risen is going to shield me and it's gonna absord a fuckton of dmg. I am going to taunt someone we think is most likely to send in scum KP. If i hit right noone dies and we got a confirmed scum. | ||
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On December 06 2013 20:24 supersoft wrote: supersoft sandroba raynpelikoneet marvellosity Mig justanothertownie Oatsmaster mocsta ticklishmusic kushm4sta jaybrundage JonnyLaw Rean - somehow zero right now. Keeps active on a low level. Onegu - BCs inheritor - balancing issue jcarlsoniv - boxing n2 - no danger of getting shot. why not save it for lategame - if town. just scum Coagulation - "who posts first / 2 names"- fake: scumclaim 100% scummy Lurkers Roffles - no filter and ragequit gtrsrs - no filter, semi active. Extremely scummy lurking scummy active VisceraEyes 10000 onliners. Checks on questionable targets Koshi completely useless inventions. LSB hiding behind list. Questionable read on kush scummy connection Risen - distanced himself from MZ, while being on the austinlist Meapak_Ziphh - read my case. Fake analysis on VE useless afterwards. however no real efforts to save him. the one who switched was town-gript I worked over my list a little. I completely ignored the possibilitie of third party :-/ And I ended up with a lot of scumreads. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
...now I have a micro final that I haven't studied for in two hours lolol. Anyway for those who are curious, this bullshit with koshi is why I questioned him that one time that ended up almost getting me lynched. Fucking. Called. It. I normally would take the high road but I've had a long night and it feels good being vindicated after almost getting lynched for it lol. Peace fuckers, sorry I haven't been too helpful, that paper was a bitch. I will return to the thread tomorrow after mico, hopefully slightly intoxicated. | ||
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