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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 09 2013 01:49 GMT
#5141
im sorry, the sarcasm and passive aggressiveness is rubbing off on me a bit
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 09 2013 02:06 GMT
#5142
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
Claiming my role isn't going to help us yet. Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential.

rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three.

I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads.


Lol this is top tier
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
December 09 2013 02:07 GMT
#5143
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
Claiming my role isn't going to help us yet. Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential.

rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three.

I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads.
WTF does this even mean.

"Too comfortably for scum"

Explain NOW.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
December 09 2013 02:12 GMT
#5144
Can we please stop being so aggressive? Multiple people have pointed out that the atmosphere is horrible for any sort of town play, and I'd really wish we'd stop perpetuating it.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 09 2013 02:12 GMT
#5145
Not today.

Mocsta - His whole filter is trying to target bad play but not specifically scum hunting. Scum. Kush is scum because he believes what someone else says in mafia?

ve - If I'm reading this right VE will return no claims since the first two failed and it takes two days to get a read back. Now he wants to laser someone instead of cop checking two people. The better play is to actually get two cop reads when we don't have another way to check. slightly scummy.

mz - He's emotional while appealing his lynch and the thought that he'll die to the nuke. It's all just spam and calling people names. Another player adding nothing. The case on him was weak d2 and I think there's better options. slightly scummy and derailing.

lsb - After his list obsession he's just been pressuring reads that don't make sense to me. His case on Kush is essentially that Kush has no scum reads. Weak. His case on Koshi is just as weak. Then he just talks about the crown for a few posts when we already know it's gone. I've thought he's scum all game. Still do.

mig - shows up to deal damage nightly and report in. Also could be scum.

rufflez - who knows?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 09 2013 02:15 GMT
#5146
On December 09 2013 11:07 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
Claiming my role isn't going to help us yet. Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential.

rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three.

I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads.
WTF does this even mean.

"Too comfortably for scum"

Explain NOW.

Reading their filters and looking at them in the thread they've been called out for playing poorly. I don't think it's poor play but more a general sense of confusion in the thread. They're quite transparent to me.
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 09 2013 02:17 GMT
#5147
And hey mocsta why you so angry? Anytime something is posted you have to jump on it if you don't agree. You getting a bit nervous?
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 09 2013 02:21 GMT
#5148
On December 09 2013 11:06 Risen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
Claiming my role isn't going to help us yet. Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential.

rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three.

I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads.


Lol this is top tier



You've done nothing but post one liners all game aside from one post a couple pages ago. Your read this game is to sheep what's popular then call out anyone who thinks you're scum? Doctor is scary in scum hands as well.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
December 09 2013 02:24 GMT
#5149
Extending from Koshi's take on MZ<-->Coag interplay

On December 08 2013 16:41 Coagulation wrote:
I had to pick 2 people and when i sent the action in pm and the first one to post after gets nuked

Picked mkfuba07 cause he wasnt here and meap cause i wanted to kill him.

I was pressuring meap cause I wanted him to post back but he left as soon as I did it and mkfuba07 posted right fucking after with like the worst fucking timing in the world.

This makes zero fucking sense


On December 08 2013 15:40 Coagulation wrote:
##Nuke Meapak_Ziphh

FOR FREEDOM

On December 08 2013 15:40 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 08 2013 15:40 Coagulation wrote:
##Nuke Meapak_Ziphh

FOR FREEDOM

Wow really?

fuck you coag this is such bullshit.
On December 08 2013 15:49 mkfuba07 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
OK, I apparently suck at explaining things. To be more clear:

Crown of Solomon
May only be used at night, must be used the night I obtained it, is one-shot
Three players are selected:
Player X
Player Y
Player Z
Two parity checks are made, and we are not made aware of the results.
if X and Y are "same", and X and Z are "different", then Z dies
if X and Y are "different", and X and Z are "same", then Y dies
If both parity checks come back with the same result, then X dies

What happened last night: I submitted X: mkfuba, Y:Koshi, Z: MZ

I then received a message saying that the item didn't activate. None of the three died.

Based on this, I don't see how we can draw a conclusion other than "for some reason, the crown didn't go off".

On December 08 2013 15:50 Mid or Feed wrote:
A giant muddafuckin' bomb has been spotted flying towards mkfuba07!



Again for the goldfish memory
On December 08 2013 16:41 Coagulation wrote:
I had to pick 2 people and when i sent the action in pm and the first one to post after gets nuked


#1 - As Koshi pointed out. It was semi-reasonable for Coag to nuke MZ, given that MZ was requesting KP on Coag.

#2 - MZ was a reasonable nuke choice based on him being under suspicion by several townies. I think this is exactly why you specified MZ was the nuke choice in thread.

#3 - If you had to PM the action, *WHY* declare a nuke on MZ in the first place.. If one of them had to talk.. why not ask them a question, and then once they are responding - PM the host. That way you guarantee the right nuke selection.

#4 - (WIFOM) But I would think its safe to assume the nuke PM went through approximately when the thread action was declared. It is clear, MZ was the only poster around this time. In fact, Fuba previous post to that was 3hrs prior.
Thus, for Coag to *not* be bullshitting, Coag had to submit the thread action @ 15:40; and PM it @ 15:42 ( = MZ last post). I find this unlikely. Normal action is PM first, then thread.

I have no idea why Coag would fake a nuke claim on MZ, and then nuke openly Fuba.
I can only assume for now it will be explained by the role PM.
But its clear the process behind the nuke is total bullshit & deceptive ==> scum usage vs town usage.



Further my two association reads:

#1
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
*snip*

Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

*snip*
See how distant is he talking about this. Its great he see's no town motivation; but this doesnt explain why he see's no motivation.

This is just echoing thread sentiment.

Pls Lynch


#2
On December 08 2013 14:48 Coagulation wrote:
So scum isnt really interested in pushing the coag mislynch wagon now that he gots a nuke.. is that what im picking up here?
On December 08 2013 15:30 Coagulation wrote:
Kush is like the only one on the ball taking names making reads and calling shots for town. And he just admitted he has absolutely no fucking clue what hes talking about.

This town is so completely fucked on so many levels.
Coag who has nothing in his filter suddenly feels the need to give Kush some praise?

On December 08 2013 14:54 kushm4sta wrote:
coag is town. that's what the last two posts tell me.

Show nested quote +
On December 08 2013 14:48 Coagulation wrote:
So scum isnt really interested in pushing the coag mislynch wagon now that he gots a nuke.. is that what im picking up here?

actually a really nonscum post. I imagine it would be pretty hard for scumcoag to come up with an idea like this.
Coags post is completely non-alignment indicative. And Kush is giving the stupidest reason possible to treat this post as alignment indicative (i.e. lack of respect --> which is far from a quantitative method).

On December 08 2013 18:43 Mocsta wrote:
kush

why are you treating coags claim as gospel.
On December 08 2013 18:44 kushm4sta wrote:
because i think it's really hard to make that shit up.

He could be scum I suppose, but I doubt he is lying about the power.
Again, poor/weak reasoning to give Coag a town lean; and then leaves himself a backdoor to vote Coag.

Pls lynch
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
December 09 2013 02:26 GMT
#5150
On December 09 2013 11:12 LSB wrote:
Can we please stop being so aggressive? Multiple people have pointed out that the atmosphere is horrible for any sort of town play, and I'd really wish we'd stop perpetuating it.
Its better than perpetuating out-of-date list actions.

Let me know when you decide to be useful.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
December 09 2013 02:31 GMT
#5151
On December 09 2013 11:17 JonnyLaw wrote:
And hey mocsta why you so angry? Anytime something is posted you have to jump on it if you don't agree. You getting a bit nervous?

Nope?

Your in my top 3 scum reads. Its called pressure.

If I'm being offensive, let me know and I can try tone it down a dial.
Works pretty stressful this time of year, so maybe its carrying through - dunno.

Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
December 09 2013 02:35 GMT
#5152
On December 09 2013 01:56 sandroba wrote:
mocsta/lsb jumping on kush early on in the day looks terrible btw.

This is wrong.

We can all early vote Coag resulting in the thread grinding to a halt.
Now is the time to pressure other people to maximise the benefit of day cycle play.

You *know* this Sandroba.

If Coag flips scum; Kush is scum for sure. (along with JL)
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
December 09 2013 02:50 GMT
#5153
Mocsta you don't offend me. Your posting style just comes off nervous and pushy rather than leading and convincing. What I said wasn't referring to your pressure. That's fine.

Coag could be scum. That's what I said. Roffles could be scum. Voting yourself and throwing out random damage are both scummy. Mig's doing the same thing. Comes in, drops some damage and posts a bit of nothing then leaves.

I don't know how to differentiate between the behavior of those three. This becomes more difficult since I don't think kush is scum. He seems misguided but his posts feel genuine, unlike your posting.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9389 Posts
December 09 2013 02:58 GMT
#5154
Lol.. nervous and pushy.

Can't say anyone has told me that before

We can deal with this next cycle.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
December 09 2013 03:24 GMT
#5155
On December 09 2013 11:21 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2013 11:06 Risen wrote:
On December 09 2013 10:44 JonnyLaw wrote:
Claiming my role isn't going to help us yet. Coag's disruption warrants a lynch. I don't see any town motivation for coming in and nuking someone then not really commenting.

Koshi's town. Can we drop it? I don't know if he normally plays this distantly from the game but I feel like he's trying to stay alive to get strong inventions out. The first one had a lot of potential.

rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three.

I'm reading a couple filters then will be back with scum reads.


Lol this is top tier



You've done nothing but post one liners all game aside from one post a couple pages ago. Your read this game is to sheep what's popular then call out anyone who thinks you're scum? Doctor is scary in scum hands as well.

You make good points here. Why am I not your target right now? Shooting me is just stupid and scummy, but having me as a FoS target would make sense.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 09 2013 06:32 GMT
#5156
Jonnylaw you need to explain how you go from this:
I called out Kush, got shit on by a couple people because that's how he plays. I didn't realize people intentionally play like shit and post one liners that don't help town at all. That was my original complaint about rayn. Now he gets praised for having the largest filter in the game.

...to this..
[/quote]rayn, kush and ss all play comfortably. Too comfortably for scum. I lean town on all three.[/quote]
???
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 09 2013 06:44 GMT
#5157
Fuck maybe JonnyLaw is scum after all. Everything he said after coming back makes no sense.
table for two on a tv tray
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 09 2013 06:49 GMT
#5158
I don't think the two statements are mutually exclusive...

That said, what Johnny has been doing recently is making dead-end or incorrect reads and insulting people. Given the pretty frustrated environment we have already, he's just adding more fuel to the fire and getting players riled up even more with his insults and false accusations. Seems pretty scummy to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 09 2013 07:01 GMT
#5159
They are mutually exclusive because he earlier on says it's my and kush's behavior that makes us mafia. Now has our behavior changed in some way? He does not explain why but now we are both town. That makes no sense because i do not think either one of me / kush posts or acts differently than before.
table for two on a tv tray
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
December 09 2013 07:10 GMT
#5160
It's not a change in the way you behave, just a change in the way he read you two.

The way I interpreted it was that initially he said that you and kush posted badly. You guys weren't afraid to just post whatever, and he initially thought that was scummy or w/e but now he reads that sort of posting means you're comfortable.
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