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On December 07 2013 10:25 supersoft wrote:
And I want you lazy bummers to comment on my MZ shit! ASAP.
Also I want everyon who votes Austin to at least quote a post or anything that contains a reason that convinced him.
It's not acceptable that you just come in here and be like:
"uh so hard to read. need to sleep voting austin/MZ/Roffels - yolo"
There is no case on MZ and you want people on austin to explain their votes? wtf man?
austin is useless and only makes connection cases that are bullshit.
are you scum ss?
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That's not my point ss and i understand.
What i don't understand that there are no explanations for MZ votes yet only thing you are pushing for is reasoning for austin votes.
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Well i have told why i think austin is scum. Not gonna repeat it. I also told i don't think either of MZ & Roffles is scum.
People should vote for austin but me yelling it over and over again won't make it happen. Well maybe it would but if townies can't think with their own brain so be it.
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On December 07 2013 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Rayn, if you want me to vote austin show me the case on him/convince me. What you are doing right now does not make me want to lynch austin.
This is the fucking worst post of the century.
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That's because his reads are not reads. His reads are:
"One of MZ/REan is scum"
"oh but Roffles is scum.. if MZ & Rean are town"
"these couple of dudes are town"
And that's it.
MZ has talked about probably every player in the game and in nowhere near wishy-washy as 80% of the people in this fucking game. So no, if you want to lynch MZ go ahead but i am telling you he is gonna flip town.
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For example Koshi's post about voting for MZ is 1000x scummier than any post MZ has done in this game.
Your post about "i don't wanna figure shit out so rayn tell me who should i vote and why" is 1000x scummier than any post MZ has made this game.
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On December 07 2013 10:52 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 10:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's because his reads are not reads. His reads are:
"One of MZ/REan is scum"
"oh but Roffles is scum.. if MZ & Rean are town"
"these couple of dudes are town"
And that's it.
MZ has talked about probably every player in the game and in nowhere near wishy-washy as 80% of the people in this fucking game. So no, if you want to lynch MZ go ahead but i am telling you he is gonna flip town. Austin spoke about quite a few other players. He did a quite lenghty analysis of JL for example where he came to the same conclusion as you btw.
Fuck he analyzed a guy and ended up in a townread other people have said the same thing aswell. Makes him totally town.
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On December 07 2013 10:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah, what an evil scummer I am asking you for reasoning. Should have probably just parked my vote saying nothing and peaced like every other dude.
Yah and asking for reasoning makes me think you don't even read the thread because i have given my reasoning before you asked.
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Just because it's not a 1000 word multiquote big fluffy post that looks nice doesn't mean it's not reasoning.
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On December 07 2013 10:58 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 10:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 07 2013 10:54 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah, what an evil scummer I am asking you for reasoning. Should have probably just parked my vote saying nothing and peaced like every other dude. Yah and asking for reasoning makes me think you don't even read the thread because i have given my reasoning before you asked. You said his reads aren't read without providing even a single piece of evidence. Wow, impressing rayn, impressing. I don't get how you can be so fucking sure about both of their alignments.
If you read his filter that's pretty easily seen. I can't possibly quote his reads when there are no reads on people who i said. I could quote all his posts about Rean/MZ/Roffles but they are a big pack of nothing so i don't care. And the concusions are what i already said. austin is being wishy-washy as fuck and has no real scumreads. That very simple.
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On December 07 2013 11:01 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 11:00 Koshi wrote:
rayn want me to sheep you? My own mind says MZ, but I can sheep if you really know mz is town and austin scum. Great. Do you like that better rayn?
no, i hate that.
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On December 07 2013 11:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2013 10:54 jaybrundage wrote:
Yea just finished reading MZ's filter I think that hes probably town he sounds sincere in alot of his posts. And austin is scum.
Part of the reason why I think austin is scum is the first part of the game He SOLELY (hyberbole) gives town reads. He gives town read after town read after town read. This is very easy for scum to do. They know who's town so they can go off little things in posts to try to establish rap with other townies. (if he thinks im town he must be town reading me line of thinking)
He then harps on MZ for bothering Koshi. Yes MZ is constantly bugging Koshi.
I think the reason for MZ's tunneling Koshi is a couple reasons.
A. MZ thinks Koshi might be scum.
B. Koshi is inventor so he can make sweet stuff that ideally would be given to townies.
C. Koshi being inventor IS NOT ALIGNMENT INDICATIVE
D. Koshi is not contributing much to scum hunting
E Koshi being scum in MZ's eyes and is being ignored as a lynch candidate because of his Power Is driving MZcrazy and makes it keep coming back to Koshi to put pressure on him.
That is my idea why MZ kept bothering Koshi even tho hes not a lynch candidate atm.
Austin had MZ as scum really early in the game and before the whole Koshi thing.
So because austin had MZ as scumread it gives him a free pass to harp on MZ about Koshi? To be honest MZ was being totally reasonable about Koshi, Koshi has been so fucking incredibly bad this game i don't even know what to think of him. Maybe we should lynch him on D3.
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Haha. That is indeed a really strong scumread.
It's not the most blatant scummy stuff ever, but his were some posts that just didn't feel like they were DOING anything to me. Looking closer, apart from the gtrsrs stuff very early, just trying to build discussion, his filter is pewp imo. And the very fact that he'd try to start discussion early and then just...fade away into poking at LBS doesn't sit well with me. Having a couple townie posts early on into nothing always seems like what scumvets do.
no need to read the rest when the dude says it's not necessarily scummy.
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The point is it's not even a scumread to be taken seriously because austin himself says that does not necessarily make MZ scum..
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And for the record MZ explained his LSB stuff and it felt very genuine. Him pushing LSB and when people were not listening looking into other places.
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idk what am i even doing. It's not my job to defend MZ.
Vote whoever you think is scum. I'm going to bed. You know what i think.
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My activity is dropping a significant amount because i do not care to put effort into a game where people got themselves modkilled or don't care about the game at all.
That being said i will be voting for Cagulation until someone shoots him dead or we vote him dead.
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Maybe you could find scum in yourself?
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I never said will stop playing, i just don't wanna put effort into something other people do not give a shit about.
I have another game going on and i'd rather play with those people if these ones are not interested in playing.
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mkfuba07 - based on marv town, so i don't really care to read him better.
justanothertownie - totally town. Invested in the game and trying to figure out shit.
sandroba - in case his meta has done a full 180 he is town.
Meapak_Ziphh - I still think MZ is being genuine and trying to find mafia. Anyways not a good lynch because he is amongst the people who are most willing to solve the game. Cases on him have been poor.
jcarlsoniv - I believe his "doctor" claim and his targets for lantern have been okay. I was not roleblocked on N1.
kushm4sta - feels like he is really invested in this game and he hates playing scum so i think he's town
JonnyLaw - feels genuine and while he has not done much his contributions have been okay
ticklishmusic - unless VE is mafia and/or he is lying about his role this guy is town.
gtrsrs - i think he's too confused at some points to be scum. kinda useless meh :/
Roffles - totally useless but i think he just does not give a fuck. but dick move analysis says he's town because he does not care if he lives or dies
Risen - Seems like normal town!idontgiveafuck!Risen. I think he would be more pro-active if he was scum. strong town read.
Oatsmaster - seems like usual town!Oats to me.
VisceraEyes - if has copped people town, if not scum. contributions are pretty non-existent. would like to see more from him.
Chezinu - has crumbed a lot of stuff i think mafia would not crumb. has also crumbed a lot of stuff that he should not crumb as town. i thought he was town but now i am not so sure of it any more. a good investigation target because definitely has a really strong role.
supersoft - on the other hand has town told a lot. On the other hand feels like he doesn't wanna do much while being quite active. ugh.. hard to tell, i would hope he posted more things that actually contribute to the game.
jaybrundage - some things are good, some things are terribad. could go either way.
Koshi - could go either way. needs to invent the police radio. If he doesn't, lynch him on D3. If he gives it to someone who is not likely to be town, lynch him on D3. other than his role i would say scum, because he is just playing so poorly.
Onegu - need to read his filter, i have not payed too much attention on him.
Mocsta - impossible to say. A part of me thinks he is town but a part of me refuses to believe that. I don't think his case on MZ was good and the way he approached it was even worse (not talking about Prome's case in the first place and then just trying to justify his case later on with it - i did not like it at all).
Mig - very very useless. I do not think he is here to find mafia.
LSB - talks about setup, then talks more about setup, then nothing useful. scum.
Rean - useless, like totally. only read he has had was austin and we all know what he flipped. most likely scum
Coagulation - useless [redacted]. kil, lynch or whatever with fire. nothing more to say.
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