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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 15:11 GMT
#2719
Watcher > Tracker anyday!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 15:51 GMT
#2725
Also i have no idea why are you doing what you are Koshi. You are not supposed to tell who you are giving the item. Deccide it yourself and not just say "okay marv is my only town read i'll give him more HP yes best item 2013". Don't you have any creativity? With the items and the tragets you are supposed to help not only finding mafia but proving your innocence.

Right not you're just being meh.. And not only with inventions and your plans but with your play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 15:52 GMT
#2726
Kurumi is town by dick move analysis, if not else.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 18:39 GMT
#2817
So i don't really think VE pushed LSB lynch. There is not even a concrete case.. One post, this....
On December 03 2013 21:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't see how what LSB is doing is suicidal. He's not saying anything of substance about anyone, he's making the kinds of accusations that get ignored rather than responded to. He's been screaming about a mass claim but thread sentiment favored at least some claiming anyway so that isn't controversial...I like an LSB lynch.

..is closest to what the case gets, and ~10 posts that say "kill LSB". Additionally the case includes LSB's pick which is not alignment indicative in any way.

So i don't really see how VE ever pushed LSB lynch.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:01 GMT
#2824
He goes from this:
On December 03 2013 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
gtsrs, Mocsta (depending on what he chooses to do next - haven't liked what he's chosen to do so far), jsoniv all looking bad to me. Let me know what you rustle up.

into voting for LSB, into voting for bumatlarge (who was his top scumread LSB's top scumread).
Never talks with either of them...

...into voting for Jay, who was his townread earlier (see jay's post on last page or so).
I can't find any train of thought that makes sense to me.

VE really, what the hell?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#2826
On December 04 2013 15:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
gtsrs still a good lynch. LSB less so, in spite of me arguing it earlier. After thinking about it, it IS slightly less likely that LSB is scum since Bum was town. I still think that LSB being last pick would have tried for Tryn as scum, but I don't know if that's bias, or vet paranoia, or if I actually remember LSB being that bold as scum. I concede that it's more likely that he's town now that Bum has flipped town.

soniv still looks pretty bad to me. My filter-list looks like this overnight:
jcarlsoniv, gtsrs, jaybrundage, Odin, MZ

And now this.
VE i have seriously no idea how your reads evolve. Especially the following:
Mocsta, jay, Odin (where the hell did that come form?), LSB??

I don't understand.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:05 GMT
#2827
On December 05 2013 04:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I never voted for Jay.

At least you did in game thread.
Why did you post that if ytou did not vote for him in the voting thread?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:06 GMT
#2828
On December 04 2013 10:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Jay


Not mad friend, just disappointed.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:19 GMT
#2830
Hey marv are you around?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:23 GMT
#2836
VE straight up question, did you really care about which one of LSB/bum gets lynched?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:28 GMT
#2839
Well that does not show to me. You never argue why LSB is a better lynvch than bumatlarge and once sandroba presents an argument about LSB's role and how bum's affiliation in his opinion affects LSB's you instantly give up and just vote for bum. Now you don't even seem to be having a scumread on LSB anymore, it's really weird.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:32 GMT
#2843
Why the fuck would bum flipping town make LSB town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:34 GMT
#2844
On December 05 2013 04:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm really disliking kush right now. went through his filter, and he hasn't had a single real analysis except for his scumread on kurumi, which he later retracted and even called crap.

Also, I decided to look over a couple of his old games (Noir and Golden Sun) and he seems to do a lot of meta reads on people, which he hasn't done here at all. He even brags about it at the end of GS:

Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 02:10 kushm4sta wrote:
Bh what was the point of that smurf? Because you are afraid of my meta skills?


+ Show Spoiler +
Also, this smiley:

Do you think kushmasta's play is different than in both of those games?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:38 GMT
#2846
On December 05 2013 04:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like whether you believe he knew Num was picking Tryn or not, the inconsistency of him wanting to confirm his role immediately is too me more damning than anything bum has done.

Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 06:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On December 04 2013 06:31 sandroba wrote:
On December 04 2013 06:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I read Bum. I am not convinced he is scum. The only thing that looks really bad to me is how he tried to justify lynching jcarl over LSB. He tried to organize town and was one of the few people with a plan before the rolepicking. I also don't see the reason for him to claim picking tryndamere and not following through as scum. The only instance this makes a tiny bit of sense to me is if he is scum with LSB.

If Bum took trynn as scum, he wouldn't ever be able to justify using it. Trynn is actually terrible for scum. It's pretty obivious when you are moving 5 pos and hitting people randomly that you aren't town. And if you don't plan on doing that why take it in the first place? Better to take some concentrated kp to eliminate threats quickly.
But if he faked taking trynn and took something else it would give him town cred for never using the ability plus it would allow him to use whichever other role without suspicion. Too bad for him LSB didn't read the thread and randomly took trynn.

IF you believe he's capable of this as town, then you have to believe he's capable of the same as scum, including visiting his QT before posting or picking. I don't understand why you think that if he's scum he has to check the QT before he picks. Further I don't understand why you think that he wouldn't pick Tryn even though Bum said he was picking it. Like, I almost guarantee Kass is in the game in spite of me saying I was going to take it. Not because I know or anything but because it's an attractive role for scum if used properly. Tryn is the same - why could he not claim it and let town direct him if town is going to herp derp and tell him to hit a bunch of townies?

I don't buy it sand - I don't buy that he was ever concerned about potentially game-breaking abilities while in the same breath calling for people to augment his senseless N1 "confirmation whirl". I don't buy that he's reading the thread and coming to conclusions about peoples' alignments, and I don't buy that he just randomly picked a character like Tryn before seeing if someone was going to pick it.

Rayn must have missed these in his extensive filtering. I'm so sick of your crap Rayn.

So how does this make LSB town if bum is town? Because i see you saying the opposite.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:46 GMT
#2851
On December 05 2013 04:40 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2013 04:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 05 2013 04:30 ticklishmusic wrote:
I'm really disliking kush right now. went through his filter, and he hasn't had a single real analysis except for his scumread on kurumi, which he later retracted and even called crap.

Also, I decided to look over a couple of his old games (Noir and Golden Sun) and he seems to do a lot of meta reads on people, which he hasn't done here at all. He even brags about it at the end of GS:

On September 28 2013 02:10 kushm4sta wrote:
Bh what was the point of that smurf? Because you are afraid of my meta skills?


+ Show Spoiler +
Also, this smiley:

Do you think kushmasta's play is different than in both of those games?


He blames inactivity in Noir mostly so I'm not basing my read off that as much.

Then in GS he's screaming about how he knows everything, doing meta reads, etc. It's pretty different from how he's been here. We can discount the profanity because of his frustration for being ignored there. However, no meta reads even playing with a similar cohort is rather suspicious, as is asking questions but rarely offering his own analysis. The trolling/ whatever is normal enough, but there's no analysis sprinkled in between those comments.

So you are just reading one town game and looking if someone's behavior here is similar or different?
I'm sorry but that does not make a good meta-read.

Go read LXII or GoT and tell how my play is different than it's here. Or read Bluelightz mafia, how's that similar to this game? You can't do a meta-read based off on one game and i suggest you look at what people have done this game instead if you are planning on doing half-arsed meta-reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 19:48 GMT
#2853
On December 05 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Can I stop quoting myself yet Rayn? Are we ducking done yet Rayn?

Yes yes you yelled "LSB is scum", that's not convincing people. Do you think geript was trying to convince people into lynching Oats? Because i don't.

Could you clarify to me why did you think LSB was scum on D1 and why do you think he is not scum now? It's unclear for me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 05 2013 02:53 GMT
#3030
On December 05 2013 11:48 Rean wrote:
I'd disagree that it had to be town KP, btw.

This guy needs to be targeted with all the town KP until he dies.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 05 2013 03:28 GMT
#3048
marv??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 05 2013 03:56 GMT
#3088
How do you know Prome was hit with 950 KP?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 05 2013 03:58 GMT
#3091
I never said i thought i would die.
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