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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 03 2013 19:03 GMT
#2108
ticklish did you pick Taric?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 03 2013 19:05 GMT
#2110
Oh yeah, that's basically claiming to pick it.
You're right sandroba, most likely. I yell at you end game if you are not. :p

##unvote
##Vote: bumatlarge
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 03 2013 19:22 GMT
#2116
On December 04 2013 04:09 sandroba wrote:
@TM don't do that, just heal someone you think is town and is going to get hit. Take a look at the role list too that LSB posted before making your decision.

Except that do not heal Koshi, i got it covered!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 04:33 GMT
#2510
I got a lantern. Anyone experienced with LoL could you tell me what it's could possibly do?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 04:45 GMT
#2514
Okay so i then assume mafia gave me the lantern.
Fuck you mafia not gonna click it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 04:46 GMT
#2515
Oh i misread. Thanks cool townie definitely gonna click it. :p
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 04:54 GMT
#2518
On December 04 2013 13:53 Mocsta wrote:
Rayn
Is the plan with Koshi: we don't care?

Cos he has to be pro-town regardless of alignment?

Yeah. I am quite sure he is town too. I just hope he won't derp with inventions.
Doctors do not protect me, protect people like marv/sandroda instead.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:02 GMT
#2520
Of course youdon't because you are scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:09 GMT
#2522
You still have never providedany actual evidence why what you have said about Oats makes him scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:17 GMT
#2527
On December 04 2013 14:10 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 14:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You still have never providedany actual evidence why what you have said about Oats makes him scum.

Maybe, but I dunno if that is grounds to call Geript scum.

I actually think hes playing pretty well --> not shitting up the thread etc.

Idon't know what makes you think he is playing well?
He played "well" in LXI aswell, not shitting up the thread, making cases and so on. He is not actually doing anything useful here. His case on Oats is a couple of comments followed by "Oats did this in his scumgame X". He didn't even want to lynch Oats "because noone will believe me so i am up for a lurker lynch". His scumread on me is "rayn changed his read on me, he does not do that when he is town". Go look at for example LXIII where i change my read on Koshi for like 20 times during 5 phases. He only started to push other candidates on D1 when it was quite clear bumatlarge was gonna get lynched. He is calling out my most pro-town plan there is. Make a better one then if you don't like it, you have all the info. You have my role, you have half of the people's roles.

Yeah that's my case on geript, everything he does is either really weak - and not in a townie way, or straight out bull.

Vigi should shoot him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:31 GMT
#2535
On December 04 2013 14:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
please, someone give me a few filters to read. Who was the primary force behind the bum lynch? Why are we talking about lynching geript after the bum lynch?

I'm rereading the thread but I'm asking these questions as well because I want to hear different views on what happened.

I am interested in heraing what's your reasoning behind definitely not considering geript lynch next?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:44 GMT
#2539
On December 04 2013 14:38 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 14:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:27 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
please, someone give me a few filters to read. Who was the primary force behind the bum lynch? Why are we talking about lynching geript after the bum lynch?

I'm rereading the thread but I'm asking these questions as well because I want to hear different views on what happened.

I am interested in heraing what's your reasoning behind definitely not considering geript lynch next?
Hey,

whilst you are waiting for Geript to respond to your case above.

Want to weigh in on johnny/Kush?

I don't think either of them is scum. I don't feel like going into reasons (and i have given my reasons for them already and those reasons ahve not changed).

tbh i don't feel like posting anything atm because convincing people here atm on anything doesn't achieve much because it seems like only things that will go through is what marv/sandroba say. Not that i mind it as i think they are town but there is no point in trying to yell here now because it's useless.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:50 GMT
#2541
On December 04 2013 14:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Marv and sandro could read it and push it.

Yeah but i'd rather talk to them directly when they are around. Even if i was able to convince all the ~5 people who are here now at something what's the point when i can tomorrow convince marv and get him easily to convince ~15 people?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:55 GMT
#2547
On December 04 2013 14:51 Mocsta wrote:
Just because Marv/Sandroba are influential, certainly doesn't mean they are the end all, be all.

Further, by discussing these things now: we might be putting them in the right direction and saving them time that can be used to further refine the reads.

With Geript, I simply think its better if he addresses your case. He should be more than apt to.

Even if he is scum, thats 1 of 6.
You don't seem to think that jonny, kush or jay is scum. (Nor Marv/Sandroba)

Any leads on any of the other 5?

I don't know about jay. I have to reread him tomorrow. I don't like what he is doing (which is nothing), i just don't know if it makes him mafia.

On December 04 2013 14:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nah, the line I like to use this game, "but which of those makes them scum?".
hey rayn and geript, what do you think about Risen and Roffles?

Risen seems like town!Risen who does not give a fuck because he does not care.
Roffles could be scum, i think he's been pretty weak.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 05:59 GMT
#2550
Hey Mocsta i am not saying i will not discuss things with you, because i am more than willing to do so.
I am just saying i am not going to yell here geript is scum and get into an argument with him because i don't want to do it now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 06:02 GMT
#2553
Another thing i suggest doing is to look at what bum said. While he was lynched he is a good player and i think his reads are at least worth looking into. I was very puzzled to see VE in his scumreads. I wonder what's up with the fact that VE in fact IS a highly influential player and capable of pushing lynches. Yet he did not try to push LSB lynch but still seemed to think LSB was a better lynch than bum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 06:03 GMT
#2555
On December 04 2013 15:01 Mocsta wrote:
I think Risen is <OK>.

Hes playing pretty selfish which is why I don't mind him.

i.e. his posting about stuff thats important to him (role claims etc) and I don't really see how hes pushing a scum agenda with his posts -- which is more what I expect from him.

He said his role is self-evident, so I suppose after the night phase it may be clearer what he is based on role pick/usage.

I think this is a pretty good recap of Risen's play and the conclusion is fine too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 06:04 GMT
#2556
On December 04 2013 15:03 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Mocsta i am not saying i will not discuss things with you, because i am more than willing to do so.
I am just saying i am not going to yell here geript is scum and get into an argument with him because i don't want to do it now.
Noted. I think that is a fair position (regarding Geript).

I agree with his case breakdown though. Some of what you said is annoying as the end-user (e.g. shits on ya plan) .. but I dont see why a townie wouldnt/couldnt do that either.

I don't care about someone telling me your plan is bad in case they have something better to offer. Which geript hasn't.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 06:09 GMT
#2560
MZ what do you think of this:
I wonder what's up with the fact that VE in fact IS a highly influential player and capable of pushing lynches. Yet he did not try to push LSB lynch but still seemed to think LSB was a better lynch than bum.

Do you think VE is just lazy or does he have some other agenda of not really wanting to lynch LSB?
For me it didn't really seem like he was trying to lynch his top read.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
December 04 2013 06:14 GMT
#2563
On December 04 2013 15:08 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 15:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On December 04 2013 15:03 Mocsta wrote:
On December 04 2013 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Mocsta i am not saying i will not discuss things with you, because i am more than willing to do so.
I am just saying i am not going to yell here geript is scum and get into an argument with him because i don't want to do it now.
Noted. I think that is a fair position (regarding Geript).

I agree with his case breakdown though. Some of what you said is annoying as the end-user (e.g. shits on ya plan) .. but I dont see why a townie wouldnt/couldnt do that either.

I don't care about someone telling me your plan is bad in case they have something better to offer. Which geript hasn't.
I won't get into this too much (i.e. this is the last I will say).
To me, ppl shit on plans all the time (in real life) cos its easy.

Coming up with an alternative is always difficult, and often is what separates leaders from sheep.

I think shitting on you would be malicious if you were discredited in the process. I dont recall this happening - hence null.

It's the reasoning. Saying "plan is bad, idk how you read Koshi" achieves nothing. Does he think Koshi is scum? If Koshi is scum how is my plan still bad? I explained how my plan is not bad even if Koshi is scum. If i have missed something and am wrong why not point out where i am going wrong with then?

Making general "you're dumb" or "that won't work" is same as saying nothing. If someone disagrees with something i would expect them to tell why. That's the point of mafia.
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