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On December 02 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
Well I even lied. It will happen in the Day phase and it will be announced in the thread. Should have read my role PM better. So it will be D3 soonest. Because evul scummers will have done their work then. I need the evul scummers to do their work.
If the evul scummers are nice and cuddly scummers than it will be delayed to D4.
They are probably not cuddly so on N2 somebody will be elected. You got 140 hours to prove yourself.
I have no idea what are you talking about. Why would you use any power over the invontions because you can basically do whatever you want, including your other power..
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Also:
##Vote: jcarlsoniv
I like bum's case a lot.
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Eveyone who got VT should claim VT.
The best item possible is the list check 100%.
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Because the game is about information and knowing what roles are where. I am totally in for mass claiming. Why did you claim picking the inventor if you don't want scum to know who is VT and where the roles are?
Anyways i hope you are town and if you are i hope you use the inventor role well. Don't make stupid/weak stuff. I'll protect you on N1 -> D3. So you can't possibly die. Watcher should check me on N1 so that in case i get roleblocked we can be sure that player is scum and lynch them. In case i do not get roleblocked Koshi is guaranteed to live to at least N3 and we have a lot of inventions.
That's my plan.
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On December 02 2013 19:24 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 19:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because the game is about information and knowing what roles are where. I am totally in for mass claiming. Why did you claim picking the inventor if you don't want scum to know who is VT and where the roles are?
Anyways i hope you are town and if you are i hope you use the inventor role well. Don't make stupid/weak stuff. I'll protect you on N1 -> D3. So you can't possibly die. Watcher should check me on N1 so that in case i get roleblocked we can be sure that player is scum and lynch them. In case i do not get roleblocked Koshi is guaranteed to live to at least N3 and we have a lot of inventions.
That's my plan. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I am going to make the aegis for myself on N1. I should never die and the watcher should just watch me.
Why would you not make something useful instead?
Because that does not help us finding scum, it only keeps you alive.
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No he does not want to claim who he gaveit. It can't be used before D2 and if used on D2 mafia can roleblock the target. He needs a list of townies and then he randoms the target to prevent scum from knowing who has the item.
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Trust me on this. My role is in fact fucking awesome. All i need is to prement myself from being roleblocked on N1 and everything will be good. In case i do not get roleblocked on N1 and something goes south you can lynch me.
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On December 02 2013 19:58 Koshi wrote:
What is this? Inventor should stay alive so he can make many items.
I can make that item for myself.
Why should I not?
Because i can guarantee you live on N1, D2, N2, D3. I can also guarantee you will not get roleblocked during those phases.
So what the hell is the point of making yourself immortal on N1? For the record that's not even possible because afaik you can't create items that target specifically yourself and making yourself immortal would mean you are confirmed town because if you were mafia that would maean you would automatically win the game.
So no Koshi, your plan is very dumb.
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Actually if i am alive on N3 - which i doubt - i can guarantee you live through that night aswell and don't get roleblocked lol.
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On December 02 2013 20:02 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2013 20:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 02 2013 19:58 Koshi wrote:
What is this? Inventor should stay alive so he can make many items.
I can make that item for myself.
Why should I not? Because i can guarantee you live on N1, D2, N2, D3. I can also guarantee you will not get roleblocked during those phases. So what the hell is the point of making yourself immortal on N1? For the record that's not even possible because afaik you can't create items that target specifically yourself and making yourself immortal would mean you are confirmed town because if you were mafia that would maean you would automatically win the game. So no Koshi, your plan is very dumb. Ok rayn. I shall not make the Aegis for myself. What about I make it for you? You stay alive and protect me. I make sexy aegis for you.
I we can have a watcher on me me dying and one scum outed is better than me living as immortal.
Yes you could make that for me, but that means you are making useful items only starting by N2.
N1 is the best use for the list check as as many players as possible are alive. As Kurumi said that's the best item anyone has ever invented in PYP games so if you can come up with something better feel free to suggest it. Mkaing anyone immortal is not one, and i don't even think you are allowed to do that, because as i said if you give the item to mafia they win automatically because they can't die and have a night KP.
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On December 02 2013 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
rayn, your role sounds much funner than mine.
Weljel.
Basically the other ability i got is one time use and prevents any damage done to target for 4 phases. The target gets -4 votes on themselves the next 4 phases. They can't be targeted by any abilities for 4 phases.
It's riduculously good 
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so fuck you scum for not picking my role! ^_^
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On December 02 2013 20:08 Koshi wrote:
It's an Aegis. If you die you come back alive without Aegis. So it's immortal till you lost aegis. I wonder if there are thief roles. Hmm.
Ok. No aegis then.
I shall hunt for a townie.
Look at what i just said. There is no way anyone is going to intecept you for making items. Noone can possibly kill you (besides lynching). Noone can do anything for you, no roleblock, no stealing, no intercepting. Nothing.
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Not really marv because i already claimed i'll use it on Koshi on N1. It's one time use.
If i am lying about this i would aswell claim scum. I'll be dead anyways pretty soon, scum don't wanna have me around especially if Koshi is town. And Koshi needs to make pro-town items anyways because he can't claim roleblocked. so rofl, win-win even if he is scum.
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Ahh okay. I also suggest we force everyone vote for top 2, at most top 3 candidates on D1. In that way i think the list check is most powerful.
In case someone leaves a stupid hippie vote somewhere policy lynch them immediately.
Agreed?
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God i love these mass power games when certain criteria is met.
+ Show Spoiler +When i am town
It's incredibly easy to win as town because:
1) People will mass-claim at some point. Whatever whoever says mass-claiming benefits the town.
2) Based purely on claims and power uses town has like 70% chance of winning even if you ignore the scumhunting completely (obviously not saying we should do this)
3) Scum need to be incredibly cooperative and lucky to even stand any sort of chance against a town that works together. Even if the plans are only semi-decent and there are "what if"-factors a town working together is impossible to beat for scum.
That being said i like bumatlarge's case on jcarl. Whaddya guys think?
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Actually i just looked at his past games and ended up in his TL Mafia XL filter and lol'd hard.
I totally retract from my town read on him.
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Yes that is indeed really weird. But if he got 50 KP or something why would he lie about it?
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EPT
