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On November 19 2013 11:59 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 11:57 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 19 2013 11:52 VisceraEyes wrote:
Which interactions are you referring to? Because in my experience any and all interactions are /possible/ from scum. I don't think hes tricked me. I recognize he may not have convinced you of anything but I honestly don't think hes tricked me. Well could you weigh in on the BH/Oats thing? Because I was really just mentioning Pandain because Oats and super were arguing, but I'd really like ur input on the stuff that's going on.
BH has to die plain and simple. None of his actions have been in anyones betterment but his own. IE hes scum or assassin.
I want to say oats is scum. Super has a very decent case on him, and his responses to you and to super since have been well, shit. Rather than attempting to truly defend himself, or create a situation that people could see him as town hes acting like a complete ass. Hes being confrontational for confrontations sake and isn't trying to help anything.
I honestly think unless things shape up he has to go as part of me can see his reactions as just a pissed off townie.
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On November 19 2013 12:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Actually worst-case scenario is we lynch a Town Tracker....right?
he unclaimed saying it was a lie to save himself
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Given that I have likely been tunneling grack like I did against yamato in LXI I need to take a step back. As such I am going to start digging through filters with hopefully a clearer mind.
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Jesus fucking christ. I come home from work, after attempting to clear myself of tunnel vision and instead of finding a thread filled with happy bunnies and butterfly style of posting I get retardation at its finest. Seriously. What the fuck happened in the last few years that made people who trolled, actively played against win cons, etc... that this is considered town play and also acceptable play? Jesus.
Mattchew has done fucking nothing all game but spout bullshit and vanish into the mists. Is he being discussed for it no? Why the fuck would you, people who've been playing the game for years are allowed to do retarded shit and be ignored.
Holyflare has also done nothing fucking all game. He is harrassed for ages about not doing shit all then makes a giant post on 3 people under huge suspicion. He then goes to vote for one who apparently wasn't his top scum pick. He actively says so. Since when is lurking, only posting when pushes/analyzed, posting analysis on 3 top targets of the day, and then NOT VOTING FOR HIS TOP SCUM READ FUCKING TOWN PLAY.
On November 20 2013 05:50 Holyflare wrote:
Switch to BC then. This lynch is way too easy. Would scum really bus their team mate when alternatively people are considering BC or pandain or austincc scum? If 2 die scum kp goes to 1. I don't think they would risk that therefore it is pretty unlikely BH is actually scum or we are incredibly wrong about these reads.
That fucking logic? A guy is caught in thread, LYING ACTIVELY, trolls for days, actively doesn't help and rather than realize that scum would go "fuck this guy". BH is a Vet player. If he was town he'd have at least done something. Dropped analysis, dropped a bombshell of something to try and save himself. Is he doing that? No he gave up. But don't worry. Scum would actively not bus a teammate who got caught out completely in thread just to spare themselves 1 kp. Dont worry guys, Holyfaggot has figured the game out!
Dear fucking god people.
Hopeless1nder. Why has no one really talked about him? The guy fucking does what? Nothing? Ever? Wanders into the thread, a wild hopeless1nder appears. He uses dickall and peace. Its apparently super effective. Why? Because hes being ignored completely, not posting shit all, and skating by for it. However its not like I can blame you fucks for it because we have people who are allowed to troll/spam/be utterly useless pieces of trash cluttering the thread.
Grackerfuckingroni. You know what. Im not going to bother to make a case on this fucker. Hes scum. If any of you can name 5 fucking things hes done all game that have helped this town then Ill change that view. Seriously. Find me 5 points where he helps. The guy since being "confirmed town" has done absolutely dick fuck to help anyone. He has actively said hes not going to stop trolling ie hes going to continue being an unhelpful piece of trash. Hey though, TL towns know that being a town member is about being retardedly bad so its ok!
Pandain. Go fuck yourself. You are actively viewing me as scum for the most bullshit logic I've ever heard. If you don't realize the reasons you were told what you were was specifically because of my read of you then your fucking stupid. Seriously.
Alakslam doesnt contribute really anything. He doesn't justify his current vote at all, hell his vote swap went completely unnoticed. Hey its ok tho, the guy doesn't do shit all game but hug peoples coattails anyway. Im glad this shit is acceptable because thats how you get solid reads on people right? Let them not do shit at all and be ignored. Yep, good glad im learning something.
How about Risen? Whats he done lately other than to appear and jump onto a bandwagon, what did he do at all actually? Nothing, got yea. Im glad to see this shit is fine.
The only players in this game not playing like complete garbage are SS, Rayn, arguably VE and maybe artanis.
There are a few trying at least to not play like garbage. Myself in that list. However given the entire clusterfuck of this thread and how retarded virtually everyone is being, the entire scum team is likely on that list of people I just mentioned. You know why? Because town is so bloody unorganized and we currently have people trying to swap people OFF OF A CONFIRMED LIAR WHOS DONE NOTHING BEFORE OR SINCE TO A) JUSTIFY HIS REASONS FOR IT OR B) ATTEMPTING TO PROVE HIMSELF NOW.
Seriously? What motivation is there for any player to take someone they have 100% certainty is fucking scum, and goes "lets lynch someone else"
Jesus, i know ive played like ass this game, but the level of retardation going on is just fucking ridiculous.
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On November 20 2013 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BC can you tell me what your last scumgame is?
Likely storm mafia.
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On November 20 2013 07:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BC can you tell me what your last scumgame is? Likely storm mafia.
Was liar game. Just checked the database.
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On November 20 2013 07:24 OOHCHILD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 07:23 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 20 2013 07:22 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 20 2013 07:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BC can you tell me what your last scumgame is? Likely storm mafia. Was liar game. Just checked the database. weren't you scum more recently in a numbered game? also i dont get what you are bitching about because it seems like you want bh to get lynched and that is exactly what is happening
I don't think I was? I could be wrong. I know ive played like complete dog shit in a few numbered games recently.
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On November 20 2013 07:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
like his reads don't even make sense, the whole scumteam isn't going to be all the useless people. I don't even get the point of that post. Doesn't conclude anything except that he's upset with a lot of players and thinks the vets are the only ones playing well. classic bs post
Really which vets?
VE? Artanis? SS? Rayn isn't a vet in my eyes. Hell neither is artanis. VE has only because hes proved to be as has SS. BH and I are playing like dogshit, Oats is playing like ass, Coags existence is non existent, Mig is playing "well" and terrible at the same time.
AND I CAN EASILY MAKE A CASE WHY VE ISNT PLAYING WELL.
That would leave you 3 people not being bad. Go read LXI. Its a shameful game. However it should prove my point that an inactive lazy mafia team can easily win when THE MOTHER FUCKING TOWN JUST HERP DERPS AND FUCKS ITSELF.
Jesus.
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On November 20 2013 07:42 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 07:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 20 2013 07:32 VayneAuthority wrote:
like his reads don't even make sense, the whole scumteam isn't going to be all the useless people. I don't even get the point of that post. Doesn't conclude anything except that he's upset with a lot of players and thinks the vets are the only ones playing well. classic bs post Really which vets? VE? Artanis? SS? Rayn isn't a vet in my eyes. Hell neither is artanis. VE has only because hes proved to be as has SS. BH and I are playing like dogshit, Oats is playing like ass, Coags existence is non existent, Mig is playing "well" and terrible at the same time. AND I CAN EASILY MAKE A CASE WHY VE ISNT PLAYING WELL. That would leave you 3 people not being bad. Go read LXI. Its a shameful game. However it should prove my point that an inactive lazy mafia team can easily win when THE MOTHER FUCKING TOWN JUST HERP DERPS AND FUCKS ITSELF. Jesus. you haven't been reading the thread if you honestly think grack is scum, there are so many points I have brought up in his favor. That's just the tip of the iceberg. Only other game I played with you was TL mafia 2 and those don't have filters so don't really feel like re-reading it
You brought up many points in his favor? Please where are they? I need to see the enlightened posts of yours. I mean Ive seen one. but thats 1 point, not many.
Seriously, the only point you brought up that I can see in your filter is "mocstas flip cleared him" gee that didnt actually give me 5 reasons, or really a valid one.
I recognize I am one of like 2 fucking people who think grack is still scum. I just don't fucking get why people think hes town when hes done nothing but have 1 scum flip and "clear" him.
I was a town vig that game.
Als
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On November 20 2013 07:22 Grackaroni wrote:
@BC
-Was right about Mocsta and tried to push town towards him.
-wrote a case on why Koshi is scum
-dunked BH after he claimed scum
-I'm smart enough to defend Oatsmaster, who scum will 100% try to mislynch at some point in this game.
-I've Played in a way that dumb scummers thought they could exploit for a mislynch and backfired miserably.
That's 5 Things. Your turn BC to list your contributions.
Point 1 valid
point 2 is borderline but ill take
point 3 doesn't count as everyone can claim point 3
point 4 is something mafia can easily do
point 5 playing like a complete asshat is not a contribution.
So you have 2 points in your favour.
However I do love
On November 20 2013 07:26 Grackaroni wrote:
that post was actually pretty good. I just skipped ahead to the grackerfuckingroni lol.
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On November 20 2013 07:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will not support Hopeless lynch. He made a good case on Pandain and while i am starting to have second doubts on Pandain myself, his case had a lot similitaries to my case and i find that townie.
In addition to that there are people like austin who's done jack shit while chatting around and telling Holyflare not to look into his scumreads in mason QT - that's far worse than Hopeless is doing atm.
@ BC: I don't know what you consider to be a vet but i have played more games on TL than any other player in this game besides you/VE (maybe Oats is kinda close with me).
Ive played since mafia 2 off and on for years. I can easily say that I recognize your name but not for any series of accomplishments. ive never heard or seen (not saying you havent but i havent seen it) you being amazing. To be quite honest this is the first time I can honestly say I have seen you play balls hard that will stick in my mind. VE, oats, ss, bh, etc.. have all done something at some point over the years of play that makes me recognize them.
A vet doesn't need to be good, but they need to be known. You really aren't known to me thus not on my vet list. Be happy I think your not playing like fucking ass rather than I don't think your a vet.
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On November 20 2013 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC would you lynch Austin next?
He looks terrible. If he doesn't pull out anything by day 3, then yes, Id be inclined to lynch him. However, im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until then. Hes not at the top of my list of scum.
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On November 20 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 07:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 20 2013 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC would you lynch Austin next? He looks terrible. If he doesn't pull out anything by day 3, then yes, Id be inclined to lynch him. However, im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until then. Hes not at the top of my list of scum. Hmm.. Who exactly are on top of your list? Those people you brought up in your big post? I disagree with at least Hopeless for what i just said. Maybe on Grack too depending what BH flips. If BH is not scum then i could consider Grack but i think his interactions with Mocsta make him look better than most other players. For example i have no idea what supersoft is doing atm? I can't remember him trying to do anything at all tbh..
Top? Mattchew, Grack, Holy.
Hopeless looks terrible as well. He would be 4th on my list.
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On November 20 2013 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 08:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
I agree with BC that austin looks pretty bad. I mean, activity aside, he just doesn't seem like the inquisitive, information-gathering machine he typically is as town. You meant to say you agree with what i have been saying for 3 days.
to be quite honest dude. Your spam and your zeal put people off reading you. Don't be surprised if youve been ignored.
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Hey Holy. I came back from work to see 3 people swap votes. I know one of them is a big voice. I read the thread and sentiment is slowly turning to the "maybe we should lynch bh later" bullshit.
Mig and I both have commented on hopeless. He has been since day 1 I believe.
I love how me not pointing out how obviously good the bh is and how its been harped on to death already makes my post bad. However I do love how you are attempting to post. Badly mind you, but still you are attempting. Have you noticed however that you only seem to stick around when people harass you to actually you know, do shit?
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On November 20 2013 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 08:03 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 20 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:On November 20 2013 07:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On November 20 2013 07:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
BC would you lynch Austin next? He looks terrible. If he doesn't pull out anything by day 3, then yes, Id be inclined to lynch him. However, im willing to give him the benefit of the doubt until then. Hes not at the top of my list of scum. Hmm.. Who exactly are on top of your list? Those people you brought up in your big post? I disagree with at least Hopeless for what i just said. Maybe on Grack too depending what BH flips. If BH is not scum then i could consider Grack but i think his interactions with Mocsta make him look better than most other players. For example i have no idea what supersoft is doing atm? I can't remember him trying to do anything at all tbh.. Top? Mattchew, Grack, Holy. Hopeless looks terrible as well. He would be 4th on my list. Is there anything special that differentiates those people from Alakaslam, OOHCHILD and Mr.Cheesecake? I think all of those people (barring Mattchew) have made at least as good contributions than those i listed.
Alakaslam has kept to the same behaviour all game, as has kush and cheesecake. They are pure lurking in my books. Annoying as fuck and useless? Yes but consistent.
Of the other 3 mattchew strikes me as doing similar as the 3 I have differentiated from however he feels horribly wrong. His play has been bad and he feels off. The other two are different. Holy really has done nothing until prodded. He follows thread sentiment more than anything and imo opinion its bloody fake. Could I be wrong? yes. I can continue to harp on why I think grack is scum. In short the guy has actively trolled, done nothing really positive all game and continues even after people think hes town as town can be is useless.
I don't see someone who is believed to be town by so many actively not help. Every fucking townies dream should be get confirmed and attempt to kill mafia left and right. not luck out and get confirmed then fuck around like a dbag
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On November 20 2013 08:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
BC your thoughts on the following players:
Coagulation, Stutters, Mr.Cheesecake.
Likely Asassin, modkill and useless to talk about, lurker whos a null read
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On November 20 2013 08:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Why is Coag a likely Assassin? That's a random ass read.
I don't see him being scum or town. His scum play from my experience is more active and dbagish, whereas his town play is semi useful lurker douche. Hes not really doing anything at all ever like he doesn't care.
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On November 20 2013 08:18 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2013 08:08 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Hey Holy. I came back from work to see 3 people swap votes. I know one of them is a big voice. I read the thread and sentiment is slowly turning to the "maybe we should lynch bh later" bullshit.
Mig and I both have commented on hopeless. He has been since day 1 I believe.
I love how me not pointing out how obviously good the bh is and how its been harped on to death already makes my post bad. However I do love how you are attempting to post. Badly mind you, but still you are attempting. Have you noticed however that you only seem to stick around when people harass you to actually you know, do shit? That's not really true, BH does this shit as town and scum it just proves he doesn't want to play/doesn't have time to play. It's a wasted lynch today because he won't do ANYTHING. Tomorrow is a double lynch and I think we have a great chance to lynch scum today if we lynch into you or pandain. After hopeless made his post on pandain I feel like he's upped himself a bit to at least a null for now and so I'm not sure about him and people have just said useless oats just means useless oats not exactly scummy so I'm off him too. That only leaves you/pandain/bh, of those 3 I think the best chance we have of finding scum is to lynch you or pandain to at least reveal associative tells for tomorrow's double lynch and increase our chances of finding more scum. BH can be lynched any time but his lynch won't reveal anything. Why NOT just do it tomorrow and go after the people that you pushed in your post? Do you actually believe anyone is a scum tell other than the people you claim to be lurky? Nobody has really harassed me today, I was away for pretty much 40 hours and returned with my big post (including mason chats with austin that make him look sneaky in regards to mocsta etc) so your point is pretty much invalid.
No. You know why? Because all the people actively talking are doing a good job of at least attempting to contribute and doing real work. Why is pandain one of your bigger reads? You analyzed hopeless and oats as your other two main ones and now they are fully off the radar? A guy who wasn't on your radar now is?
Also do you know how scummy you are with what you just said? BH's lynch wont reveal anything? If he dies now and flips scum it makes you look like shit. Anyone trying to save him if he flips anything but town look terrible. His flip also gives any insight to his like 1 and only read. Seriously. The guy is scum and it drops scum KP by 1. And you want to keep him around to lynch elsewhere and keep scum kp at 3. Seems to me like your scum.
On November 19 2013 20:08 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 19 2013 20:03 Koshi wrote:On November 19 2013 20:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 19 2013 19:49 Koshi wrote:On November 19 2013 04:54 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I want to see what HF does when he isn't the center of attention. If he goes afk I'm willing to reconsider my read on him. If he doesn't, there'll be new material to consider. Can we put him on the backburner for now? D: Bolded the important part for you. I was totes referring to that as well. Imagine rayn was right on D1 and even I ignored him. I will have to perform sudoku. Ah okay, I thought you were being silly for a moment. I don't want to reconsider HF, that'd require effort. Please report in 
On November 19 2013 19:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Speaking of HolyFlare, where's he been? He hasn't posted for like 36 hours. Me no likey.
Just saying. You magically appeared after being called out
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On November 21 2013 03:47 Mig wrote:
Ok so Pandain/thrawn/SS/Skan/LM/austin are all masons?
SS masond VE and BC
Pandain masond SS and ?
Thrawn masond BH and Rayn
Austin masond HF and ?
LM masond Yam and Koshi
Out of those 5 I really doubt they are all town. Looking forward to seeing the logs with SS/BC/VE/Pandain.
Pandain/BC why did you not tell the rest of the town that super had masond VE?
You are missing 2 masons from that list btw.
Given that VE has flipped and i was wrong on him.
I masoned him day 1, masoned SS day 2. SS masoned me day 1, and VE day 2 (never knew for sure he did this btw)
Pandain masoned ss day 1 and me day 2.
The other mason you are missing is grack who claims to have mason'd BH day 1 no idea day 2.
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