EPTits likely other abilities could be used on bc, saying only 1 for 2 seems kind of low. I was thinking it might be higher...
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its likely other abilities could be used on bc, saying only 1 for 2 seems kind of low. I was thinking it might be higher... Nosy Neighbour doc tracker | ||
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could die as well from this as well i mean when does this become worth it to mafia? to me it seems that if your mafia, and you make this call ss, you could possibly get BC (who may or may not have a role but is a strong player) Get 2 out of the other possible people who would come to bc that night. I honestly feel that it looks more like a 1 for 3 trade. Is BC life that worth? Or maybe this is a way to tie up docs on bc, allowing mafia to have free kp shots? when i had left yesterday, i was leaning towards scum bc. I'll have to reread, but this whole speculation makes me feel very uncomfortable with you SS. I had read your filter ss, and was feeling pretty comfortable with you till this comment. @SS why are you not more upset at VE for his lynch choice? | ||
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On November 18 2013 05:13 Onegu wrote: MadHatter has claimed and said who he has bombed... still catching up obviously... | ||
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cept this SB crap has got me caught up cause it really is confusing me.. i'd honestly like someone else to give an opinion on it besides SS Why would town SS make that statement? Why would mafia SS make that statement? What benefit does it really give town if a SB goes off on BC and at best we lose no one? at a low possibility 2 people, at high 3+? | ||
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On November 18 2013 06:23 austinmcc wrote: Talk to me about...BC and OOHCHILD. ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. Because you are poking here, I will go first. I don't like the way BC looks. I see very little effort from him D1, apart from making a good post on you and grack, but a post I think both alignments of BC could/should have made. Otherwise, he really comments on little, apart from wanting VE/SS in vests, and his reads are ... 2 that he has been going on about for a while, and poking Hiro and BH. How do you feel about him as a whole? What's the most important thing he's done after calling you and grack out? I will not say anything about OOHCHILD, and instead YOU will talk about him. Yessssssss. I also pointed out that i believed one of his attacks are policy(grack) and that either alignment could have made them, and it felt like he was not actually looking for scum. The case on myself was about a difference of opinion. From our convo, i would think its pretty clear both of us cannot be scum. I could possibly see it as a case that town bc would make, but i find it an easy case for mafia BC to make since he all ready made his case on grack which was policy. Overall it feels like a super weak start to the infamous BC. Also storr never did anything substantial on his return to sway my belief of his alignment. He didn't provide any big new pieces of information. He didn't really do anything except defend himself. Fact of the matter is he looks worse than he did before. He and grack are still my two top reads for scum. That hasn't changed and neither has done anything to change that belief. This is another post where he attacks, yet no content is provided. What happened to make me look worse? How could i look even worse when i was "scum" earlier. I see bc tunneling on 2 people and throwing out some town reads. He does try and help town to vote for VE and SS which i can agree with so he earns points for that. + Show Spoiler + On November 17 2013 07:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote: read time Grackeroni I have already harped on this guy. nothing has changed, at all. He hasn't posted anything groundbreaking, he hasn't attempted to really help the town in any way. Given that he has shown no compulsion to help even after being called out, I see no reason to think hes town. Storrzerg My read here has altered slightly in that I still think hes red, but he could end up being town. I am moving him to a null read given that if he keeps posting like he has been I am willing to say my initial read was wrong Hiro He has 0 content to his posts, insanely inactive, and i know hes capable of doing more than he is. Its possible hes just busy, but ive seen the guy lurk as red before and skate by on minimum posting standards as such I am keeping him to red until he proves otherwise Blazinghand The guy is fucking retarded. He is inactive for 24 hours, busts out with a shitty campaign post spouting horseshit, says hes gonna catch up and post then proceeds to have spotty play. He doesn't post any reads, he still defends bad play, he even then when called on it and sees his name up for a possible lynch claims tracker with the worst possible bread crumb in the world. He has done nothing useful whatsoever. I expect far more out of him than what he has given. I do think at this point barring weird fucking circumstances i can confidently say Supersoft, VE are town, yamato and artanis i have strong leanings on being town. Now i finally see some BC that has started to change. He has changed his view on myself, yet i don't see why. I'm not sure what changed, cause he goes from storr scum for "newby card + rng" then "even more scum for recent post, no idea what this post is or posts" , and then to null because ???? Can't read much into his grack opinion, other than town bc would jump on grack and so would scum Hiro has to fall in the same spot with grack. AKA BC just jumping on a lurk. (Hiro ends up replaced i think) BH, this maybe better in terms of looking for scum. Yet it still feels like an easy jump that is less based on BH being mafia and more BH being trolly Overall i don't see much from BH int terms of scum hunting and his change in view seems to lack reason. Maybe im expecting to much of him, but im leaning Scum on BH. in short BH has only jumped on weak lynches, thown some town reads, changed his mind about myself with no real reason. | ||
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Seems to give an honest read about ryane. I don't understand why he thinks yamato is obvious town. Maybe he has played with yamato a lot, seems like it so possibly an easy read regardless of alignment. I do like the pressure he applied to ryane early, yet i can't say i like how often he says "super" with out giving what changed his mind or what made that read a "super town" read. His big red reads + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2013 19:39 OOHCHILD wrote: Mig StorrZerg hiro protagonist austinmcc Risen yamato77 Alakaslam BlazingHand i can explain any of these. probably only a good idea to ask for those explanations if you think for some reason im scum though I don't like how he ends it, and i really don't like why he doesn't give even the smallest amount of reasons for his reads. On November 17 2013 04:15 OOHCHILD wrote: Are you delusional? It's because you have literally no chance of becoming mayor. unless someone influential pushes it very hard (not me. I have not even caught up yet). In which case I would join them in voting you. this post is just ironic, since he said he wanted to vote BC or SS to ride the vet for mayor. He gives little opinions on people leaning town now. On November 17 2013 04:42 OOHCHILD wrote: I think mig is town because of this quote intelligent townie pressure on bc. also mig isn't trying to look town at all, which means he is probably town. Seems to be a change in play style, possible because he was called out on giving lack of reason for his posts. Also feels the need to say he had a strong read on skan, cause of "meta" personally i can't read to much into these reasons with out something to look at or something more. On November 17 2013 14:08 OOHCHILD wrote: prob not relevant but tweak, skanjab ,masoned me I missed this before, this does explain his strong read on skan. So overall, im Null on OOHCHILD. overall he feels kinda townie, but when i look more into the reasons for his reads i just fee a lack of something... Maybe its just the way he posts, and this is what he does. OOHCHILD i would like you to post more detail with your reads so i can get a better read on you. | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:36 Blazinghand wrote: this would be a great reason to call me scum if I did any of these things, but I definitely haven't been active enough to do any of that. I've made like 3 posts this game that should be BC not BH EBWOP my mistake, should be obvious mistake bh lol | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:36 Blazinghand wrote: this would be a great reason to call me scum if I did any of these things, but I definitely haven't been active enough to do any of that. I've made like 3 posts this game bleh i put your name wayyy more that i thought >< Now i finally see some BC that has started to change. He has changed his view on myself, yet i don't see why. I'm not sure what changed, cause he goes from storr scum for "newby card + rng" then "even more scum for recent post, no idea what this post is or posts" , and then to null because ???? Can't read much into his grack opinion, other than town bc would jump on grack and so would scum Hiro has to fall in the same spot with grack. AKA BC just jumping on a lurk. (Hiro ends up replaced i think) BH, this maybe better in terms of BC looking for scum. Yet it still feels like an easy jump that is less based on BH being mafia and more BH being trolly Overall i don't see much from BC int terms of scum hunting and his change in view seems to lack reason. Maybe im expecting to much of him, but im leaning Scum on BH. in short BC has only jumped on weak lynches, thown some town reads, changed his mind about myself with no real reason. i think i fixed it this being the latter part | ||
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On November 18 2013 07:36 Blazinghand wrote: this would be a great reason to call me scum if I did any of these things, but I definitely haven't been active enough to do any of that. I've made like 3 posts this game well want to be active now  Thoughts on yamato? BC? | ||
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don't think you responded, i know i took a while :/ | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:00 austinmcc wrote: You get slight townpoints for half of your view of BC being in relation to his post on yourself? For whatever reason, I kind of like that you're focused on why he's attacking you and why you think he's wrong about you. In my head, you're trying to figure out why he's wrong about you. If you were scum, then he's correct, and maybe you fight his read and call him scum or whatever, but you KNOW he's right and so I don't think you can put quite as much emphasis on his read. Minor though. Minor points. The rest is...stuff I agree with but was also already in thread. Not a lot to do with it  k, well i know im town. As far as your read on OOHCHILD...I'd like to see more? You lay out some clear thoughts on him, but end up null leaning town. What, out of the things you identified, do you think is MOST important out of everything he's done? The early bits? His read post? His saying he was masoned with skan? Either most important as far as getting a read on OOHCHILD or most important as far as him contributing to the game as a whole. (i have null read on him, i wouldn't say im leaning town on him) I find reads more important, the fact that he has "super town reads" with lack of reason concerns me. His "mafia" list with "only question me if you think that i am mafia" just seems really freaken weird to me. His early play makes me think he is mafia, His latter play does seem changed. Because he does at least quote something and inserts a reason, i can't say its much of an upgrade from saying "X person is leaning town" The mason bit doesn't really mean much to me. He had no way of knowing VE would lynch skan, so he had no reason to defend skan harder, skan just fell in with "a town read" So i can't see him earning points off that either way right now. Also, he doesn't explain his reads. What's the one you LEAST agree with? If you had a toddler and he had a toddler, would you pit your kid against his kid in a kidfight to the death, where the strength of each toddler would be based on the correctness of your read on the person in question? ... which one are you sure he's wrong on and you feel different, sure enough you'd risk your real or hypothetical kid's life? My issue with this is, he just has red check or green check. If i had to i would put my green read on you vs his red read on you (but he changes it to Super town with out reason so i can't use this fight) So i will go to Yamato I would pit my leaning town read on yamato to his red read. My fake toddler would win hands down because yamato has been town. (Personally i find myself agreeing with yamatos thoughts and the direction he is pushing this night against VE mostly. I still like SS ) | ||
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I can agree with gracks early play being terrible. I can agree and have said i can agree to many of your lynch targets. My issue is i don't feel your push on any of these guys as an alignment push from a town bc or a mafia bc. As far as who between us has more town reads or scum reads, I don't see how this matters in the slightest. As far as diverting anything that could save your life, if your town im sorry. I don't feel you deserve to be saved for the reads you have gave. You stated earlier something along the lines of "Make us earn our mayor spots" I think the same could be applied to medic saves. Austin helped explain the situation about calling out medic saves, and i can understand that now. At the time, with how i felt about you leaning mafia, and what SS said, it felt wrong. I still feel your leaning mafia. That post did nothing at all to change my mind. | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:19 Koshi wrote: Hmm. We were talking about Mattchew? I was talking about StorrZerg. I would say Storrzerg = scum. Mattchew = Lurky lurk lurk why? do you have reason? or did i just miss your post | ||
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On November 18 2013 08:54 Alakaslam wrote: Use quote Storrzerg that came out of the wild blue sky and I can't tell what you are talking about http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=434275¤tpage=129#2572 My bad here.. needed to take a bit before answering it... | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:04 OOHCHILD wrote: pretty useless list with zero research behind it... poe scummers BloodyC0bbler Mattchew Coagulation Hopeless1der Stutters695 Mr. Cheesecake LoneMeow Alakaslam yes... why don't you put some thought into a few? I suggest BC, Mr. Cheesecake, Alakaslam | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:05 Grackaroni wrote: You guys are all fools lol. I write out reasons for Koshi being scum and then you all just continue complaining about trolling and keep discussing a role claim from yesterday. If BH is scum he will show it in his posts. Frankly I liked his breadcrumb yesterday. lynchbait is lynchbait | ||
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On November 18 2013 09:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Why am I not in any list? I feel left out  who are you? Sorry i don't think i have gotten around to getting a read on you. Ill go do that | ||
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