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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:05 Pandain wrote: He's been making posts I really like in thread. He got super frustrated with me and Rayn for reasons I can see and appreciate now, and would have to have been a forced mindset if he was scum. Took it really personal. Apparently he was just too busy in life and didn't want to make a post yet in thread. QTs were more relaxed to him and a post in the thread would have been too definitive a statement when he wasn't really sure on everything going on. I'm pretty surprised at the plethora of people voting him who aren't in Gryffindor as he hasn't said anything then, right? Toad, why are you deciding on a man you haven't seen any posts of instead of doing actual analysis. A random lynch isn't going to gain traction and it shouldn't gain traction almost everyone has posted so far and it's a game that should be decided through analysis not random voting. Furthermore I have a soft town read on Rayne/Koshi, Koshi's posts were Koshi town and apparently Rayne agrees with my views which means even if he's scum he's working into my favor. I love StorrZerg's last post and he's town in my eyes. Which leaves these people: Sn0 Vayne Echelon Mattchew Onegu Tunkeg Palmar I-be-Pro Stutters JAT. Palmar doesn't fit into this list and is playing like his scum self. I don't like how he's attempting to hide information he has from the rest of the thread and hoping to get a last minute bandwagon, if even that. He seems sure Mocsta is scum and yet is waiting for a response, which indicates he wouldn't be sure Mocsta is scum. His play is flawed, illogical, and seems calculated and he should be voted. This is the same playstyle Palmar did in Thug Life where he acted aloof and distant. If Palmar wasn't a vet, he would be auto-lynched and the reputation Palmar has in this game suggests that he's playing exactly opposite of how he would want to as town. There are simply too many variables to make me believe Palmar is town. FoS on I-be-Pro for voting Ceph long story short: Like I said, I was really busy today with the 3 hour trainride, didn't sleep a lot because I stayed up until 4m yesterday when I had to wake up at 7am again to get to my math classes comming home to an empty fridge and all that so I haven't realy done anything today due to that and me being sleepy as fuck when it's only 22:00 over here. (Explaining what moeboats are to Oats in irc for 45 minutes straight didn't help either  )A bunch of people I might have considered voteable are unvoteable d1 due to my role so I'm going for someone I know really well because we hang out in irc a lot, because I feel comfortable reading him in a short amount of time due to that restriction of mine. | ||
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LastArgument
United States152 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:05 Pandain wrote: He's been making posts I really like in thread. He got super frustrated with me and Rayn for reasons I can see and appreciate now, and would have to have been a forced mindset if he was scum. Took it really personal. Apparently he was just too busy in life and didn't want to make a post yet in thread. QTs were more relaxed to him and a post in the thread would have been too definitive a statement when he wasn't really sure on everything going on. I'm pretty surprised at the plethora of people voting him who aren't in Gryffindor as he hasn't said anything then, right? You were on his team in LXII, correct? Browsing his filter there he does a nice line in righteous complaining, and little else. In fact it looks like he complained about being busy in life in that game too. What is the difference between that game and what he's doing in the QT? Also explain to me why a townie would be worried about making a 'definitive statement' or worry about how they look generally in this thread? Your explanations actually seem to incriminate him more, not less, so if you're somehow convinced he's town, you're not explaining it very well. | ||
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You-Know-Who
Great Britain155 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:12 Holyflare wrote: Do QT's count as activity??? To avoid being modkilled, each cycle you have to post at least once in the game thread and vote in the voting thread. Ange | ||
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:09 Pandain wrote: The people who contributed greatly earlier on in the thread were: Hopeless Last Argument Skanjabs Yamato I have town reads on all of these people and others, upon analyzing them, should confirm/deny this from their own perspective. I also would like it if someone took the time to summarize their House QT for the thread. I don't agree with hopeless at all. Neither sskanjabs nor yamato have contributed anything, they've posted but yeah, they're most likely town. | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
Mostly i don't like the fact that he posts in QT and not in thread. When i tell him to go post in thread instead of the QT what he does? Posts more into the QT about how shitty my/Pandain's scumread on him is. That's not how you prove your towniness, all this could be well if he just posted here, gave some thoughts about something. Instead he has been only defending himself and continuing doing the same thing he's been called out for. His last post in the QT implies he is reading the thread. It's been 2,5 hours. I am waiting for some amazing analysis from him. -rayn | ||
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raynpelikonoshi
Cayman Islands1087 Posts
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You-Know-Who
Great Britain155 Posts
Day 1 Vote Count Cephiro (3): Skanjab1s (0): Mattchew (0): VayneAuthority (2): yamato77, Hopeless1der, Sn0_Man (1): StorrZerg raynpelikonoshi (2): supersoft, Blazinghand yamato77 (1): Skanjab1s Hopeless1der (0): Palmar (2): Grackaroni, Pandain Currently Cephiro is set to be lynched. Deadline is in . Remember: Voting is mandatory and has to be done in the Voting Thread. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
I am also confused by Toad's vote: On October 18 2013 04:36 I-be-Pro wrote: I like the Cephiro vote. Guy is usually a really quircky ##grab tornado-guy who's funny and all that shit. Not the most collected guy, certainly can't handle being mafia and is overwhelmed by it everytime I saw him play mafia either in IRC or in here. He usually was overwhelmed as town as well, he's posting a bunch more and doesn't make a lot of sense as town as well but I don't see that yet. Not enough ##vote Ceph Cephiro is overwhelmed as both alignments but he's more sure that he is leaning scum over other people in the thread that have actively posted and interacted with other people? At the current rate he's going he will be warned/killed because he doesn't meet activity requirements. It seems like an easy place to park a vote. Also, if a role inhibits you for voting people you actually thought could be scum then why would that be any different for Cephiro?? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:16 I-be-Pro wrote: long story short: Like I said, I was really busy today with the 3 hour trainride, didn't sleep a lot because I stayed up until 4m yesterday when I had to wake up at 7am again to get to my math classes comming home to an empty fridge and all that so I haven't realy done anything today due to that and me being sleepy as fuck when it's only 22:00 over here. (Explaining what moeboats are to Oats in irc for 45 minutes straight didn't help either )A bunch of people I might have considered voteable are unvoteable d1 due to my role so I'm going for someone I know really well because we hang out in irc a lot, because I feel comfortable reading him in a short amount of time due to that restriction of mine. But he hasn't posted anything in thread. On October 18 2013 05:18 LastArgument wrote: You were on his team in LXII, correct? Browsing his filter there he does a nice line in righteous complaining, and little else. In fact it looks like he complained about being busy in life in that game too. What is the difference between that game and what he's doing in the QT? Also explain to me why a townie would be worried about making a 'definitive statement' or worry about how they look generally in this thread? Your explanations actually seem to incriminate him more, not less, so if you're somehow convinced he's town, you're not explaining it very well. My reasoning is that he has defended himself enough in a genuine and logical fashion to justify him not being lynched today. If he starts to suck in thread and therefore become suspicious, then we can lynch him. Today is not going to be that day unless he posts that he's scum or something. Other people, however, have posted more and therefore have revealed their intentions in a clearer light then what can be discerned for Ceph. As for his being scared, if you come into thread without fully reading the thread and write a bullshit response, then that haunts you the entire game whether your town or scum. I'm under the impression that he hadn't read the thread fully at that time and he has, according to him, "a life" | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:05 Pandain wrote: Palmar doesn't fit into this list and is playing like his scum self. I don't like how he's attempting to hide information he has from the rest of the thread and hoping to get a last minute bandwagon, if even that. He seems sure Mocsta is scum and yet is waiting for a response, which indicates he wouldn't be sure Mocsta is scum. His play is flawed, illogical, and seems calculated and he should be voted. Please, point me to where I said I was trying to hide information in order to get a last minute bandwagon. I'm hoping mocsta shows up in the thread again before the deadline. And please, also show me where I said I was sure Mocsta is scum. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:25 Palmar wrote: Please, point me to where I said I was trying to hide information in order to get a last minute bandwagon. I'm hoping mocsta shows up in the thread again before the deadline. And please, also show me where I said I was sure Mocsta is scum. On October 18 2013 01:08 Palmar wrote: To me, what mocsta did should be no-questions-asked policy lynchable. But I'm in no rush, let's hear WHY he did it. On October 18 2013 00:58 Palmar wrote: That would be preferable. I'll explain why the question is important once Mocsta explains exactly WHY he claimed miller. Hiding information, why would you do that from town. I see no reason for a policy lynch of Mocsta unless you think he's also scum. By last minute I mean you are banking on waiting for Mocsta to respond which could be hours from now, and is last minute in the context of this mafia game. Do you have opinions other then that hopeless is "maybe town" and Mocsta which you are hiding until he answers? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:24 Pandain wrote: But he hasn't posted anything in thread. [...] And if you read my post about him you'll see how that is exactly why I'd be okay with lynching him. He is a very quirky guy who doesn't give a shit about wether he's right or not, or wether he's catched up on the thread or wether he understood something someone else said, he'll comment on that either way. He'll look overwhelmed and won't make sense but he'll comment on it. As mafia he is overwhelmed in the fashion I see happening here. Not posting at all, being scared to come out in the open and all that. I don't see a reason at all why he should be fine to discuss in his QT but won't do so in here if he was a townie (especially considering who he is). I don't like the palmar lynch d1 out of nowhere despite me not liking Palmar right now. That can wait and I completly agree with Syllo, most people who are being active make a terrible target atm, maybe with the exception of hopeless but I seem to be the only one thinking that his "helpfulness" is faked or for the sake of posting. So yeah Cephiro lynch makes an awful lot of sense here. | ||
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LastArgument
United States152 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:24 Pandain wrote: My reasoning is that he has defended himself enough in a genuine and logical fashion to justify him not being lynched today. If he starts to suck in thread and therefore become suspicious, then we can lynch him. Today is not going to be that day unless he posts that he's scum or something. This is nowhere near good enough reasoning, and I don't trust your judgement enough to even consider deferring to you. If Cephiro is town, he can come and demonstrate it; otherwise he can die. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:28 Pandain wrote: Hiding information, why would you do that from town. I see no reason for a policy lynch of Mocsta unless you think he's also scum. Policy lynches are called policy lynches for a reason, they're enforced irrelevant of whether there is substantial evidence to lynch someone. Think about lurker lynches for example. There is usually not enough hard evidence to construct a solid case against them, but we lynch them anyway. This is the same thing. And I'd simply like Mocsta to reply to my question without me influencing the answer by explaining how I expect him to reply. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:32 LastArgument wrote: This is nowhere near good enough reasoning, and I don't trust your judgement enough to even consider deferring to you. If Cephiro is town, he can come and demonstrate it; otherwise he can die. You don't even have any reasoning because you aren't in Gryfinndor. For all you know me/rayn are greatly exagerrating what Cephiro did in thread, or putting things in the wrong context. Why is your vote of him who you have no objective evidence of better then looking into other people and actually analyzing them? | ||
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I-be-Pro
Azerbaijan97 Posts
On October 18 2013 05:31 supersoft wrote: what do you guys think about syllogisms lack of contribution. Some people talked about him being a slowstarter earlier. toad? Palmar? I'm fine with him right now. I'm almost certain we have a mafia-vet in your QT though The lack of contribution isn't something that's concerning me comming from him. The questions he's asking are most times decent enough and they fit his style. And I really don't see a reason to even discuss syllo d1. If he doesn't die n1 we can start talking about him d2. We wait about syllo and see what to do about him later. | ||
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