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Seriously though I'm gonna be less mean this game, that is my plan. | ||
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On September 25 2013 14:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Truth. BH aside from Aperture what was the last game you were mean in? I'm never objectively mean, but I'm going to be like relative to my normal play less overtly aggressive. Not more passive though | ||
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Your response to anyone posting anything seems to be to swear at them and tell them to shut up. There's like no chance that's even remotely town-motivated. At this point it's just a matter of figuring out if you personally are having like a rock up your butt today, or if you're scum acting like it in an attempt to shit up the thread and hurt town activities. Seems like the latter to me. | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:45 yamato77 wrote: BH is claiming mafia in front of my eyes. and yet i don't see a vote on me??? | ||
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see yamato doesn't actually think i'm claiming scum. he's too afraid to go up against a strong town player since he is scum and knows he will lose. | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:52 yamato77 wrote: that's a singular reason among the glut of BH calling me mafia for everything I'm doing (and not doing). And btw it's actually a town tell. Oh, is shitting on everyone who tries to write anything helpful a normal thing for you? :/ Shirley you can't be serious | ||
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On September 27 2013 07:55 yamato77 wrote: You're the one shitting up the thread here. Maybe I am, but at least I'm not shitting on other players, and am introducing new ideas and trying to foster learning, growth, and harmony. The only growth you are fostering is CANCER (oh, burn!) and so you must be cut out. I am the gamma knife of justice. | ||
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I'll be back in a bit | ||
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On September 27 2013 08:09 VisceraEyes wrote: Are you not doing the bolded with the italicized? SMACKDOWN best post 2013 | ||
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On September 27 2013 13:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Third random Q: BH I want to talk with you. Where you at? Were you being serious regarding the RNG earlier? I am here. I am serious re: RNG. Consider mine a vote for RNG if we can pull it off, and if I feel like letting yamato off the hook Still don't like yamato's play interactions when I was in-thread and tbh even if he's gonna flip town it would be acceptable for me to lynch him just because this kind of play isn't acceptable. It's part "i think he's working to push a scum agenda" and part "even if he's not, we should always lynch this kind of play" | ||
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But yeah I'm thinking WoS's idea re: RNG is fine, but his presentation seems pretty emo. Cheer up emo kid! No need to be a debbie downer. If you want to frame the RNG debate in a way that it actually gains traction, don't say "town can't lynch scum D1 anyways" because people don't like to admit that about themselves. Instead, say "this is the best time we'll basically ever have for busting out some mad RNG skillzorz" also FT your objection that RNG can't truly be random is missing the real point of RNG | ||
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If you're gonna policy a guy for lurking, man up and admit it. Don't try to look like you have some serious analysis going on, FT-- you don't. | ||
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On September 27 2013 15:46 Grackaroni wrote: You didn't see the one liners? he basically claaaaimed scum. that's not a good argument at all. | ||
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Damn you, FT! Damn you! ##unvote Yamato77 ##vote FirmTofu | ||
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shit like this On September 27 2013 15:38 FirmTofu wrote: We've already discussed you quite enough. There are at least 5 other scummers out there. I'm interested in discussing as many people as possible. I'll discuss you if you end up being the #1 or #2 candidate later in the day. when of course FT has done no discussion whatsoever, contributed no ideas whatsoever, posted no thought process whatsoever... look it's one thing to take stances, peopel think that makes you town. But it REALLY DOESN'T. It's posting a thought process that does. Think about Oatsmaster from GS Mini. Why was rayne shit-mad at him? Because despite Oatsmaster having strong convictions, his thought process was opaque. It's easy for scum to drop votes, to say "X is scum" or "Y is town" because, well, it's just easy to write. Oats was town that game, but the basic idea (thought process should be shared) holds true. It's something that scum can't really do as well as town can, no matter how wiley. Even I, the squm-master, have trouble with this. Writing / faking a thought process in a coherent way is difficult. FT has not conveyed his thought process. He's just claimed credit for other people pushing grack. this is the kind of thing that scum can do very easily. Now, whether grack is scum or town isn't relevant here. Maybe grack is scum! But FT did a drive-by vote. He appropriated other people's thought process for his own. He could backtrack and we'd never know that he was making a logical contradiction. In other words, he's in the perfect position for scum to move his vote as he pleases. Vote FT! | ||
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The random lynch will be on player whose number is the post number that this post is (not in the thread, but the post # for TL). You can find the post number by mouse-overing the "#" in the upper right corner of this post. Take that number in Mod 19. 1 = koshi, 2 = VE, etc, down the player list, until you get to 0 = grackaroni. There, we've got a random lynch. WE'RE USING THE NUMBER FOR THIS POST. THIS POST THATI S BEING MADE. THE OVERALL TL #, NOT THE # IT IS IN THREAD. | ||
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now you guys can stop complaining about there being no RNG. seriously though vote FT. | ||
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On September 28 2013 02:40 Grackaroni wrote: I am in full support of this random lynch. then vote. | ||
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I gave up on RNG. But anyone who's serious about it now, you better freaking vote Koshi, or shut up about it. | ||
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you think I was paying attention to every post that was happening on TL and somehow managed to time my post so it would be a multiple of 19 + 1 exactly so it would land on Koshi? | ||
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On September 28 2013 02:50 Koshi wrote: Yeah that's not going to be the case Oats... But is it true? How do you see the number? right click the # in the upper right of the post, and click "copy link location". The way TL works, these links go to an absolute post #, which then redirects to a thread number with a relative post number within that thread. I used the absolute TL post number, which goes up too fast to be tracked by someone like me. It's RNGed. If you favor an RNG lynch, you favor a koshi lynch. done. | ||
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On September 28 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote: Why is Koshi scum, Shiao And grack, do some reading. I said I support RNG lynch, and therefore despite me having a townread on Koshi, if people were willing to do so I would vote Koshi simply because RNG said so. I guess you don't really support an RNG lynch if you're not voting Koshi right | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:01 FirmTofu wrote: Explain this to me BH. If RNG isn't practically applicable in this game, what use is it to discuss it? You want to spend time discussing what we would do if we were able to truly randomly decide a lynch? What purpose does that serve? all of my "wat" | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:04 Koshi wrote: So is this shitty thing really random? http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dsri/modular-inversion-answer.php?n=19854962&p=19 Why no answer here? And I have been giving in numbers and it doesn't seem all equal. But I guess it is? you don't know what mod is do you mod is like "do the division,then what's the remainder? so if it were post #23, 23 mod 19 = 4, we lynch SnB. If it were post #40, 40 mod 19 = 2, we lynch VE. Get it? | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:06 Koshi wrote: Well I agree I am total rng. But really. Do I have to make a list and tell you that this shitty thing isn't random. Um, taking the randomly generated post number mod 19 is completely random. | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:05 FirmTofu wrote: Of course it is a shit vote. I wanted ShiaoPi to contribute. It has served its purpose from what I can tell of ShiaoPi's filter. It provided the impetus for a contributing ShiaoPi. That, in itself, is reason enough to justify my actions. I knew my "reasoning" was weak at best. Consider my motivations of my action; consider the result I am trying to get. the result? Dude, Shiaopi was in thread for like literally an hour. I bet you could have just waited 12 more hours and he'd still have posted more, just because more time has elapsed. what, were you waiting for a post like (this) or (this) to show that he's not posting short posts? Come on, man. | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:07 FirmTofu wrote: Can someone explain to me how we can randomly choose a lynch target? Please, enlighten me. read the thread | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:12 Koshi wrote: Ok let me try this rng thing with THIS post. 19855202 mod 19 is 12. that being said, no rerolls! sorry. | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:16 Koshi wrote: Mine says 8. Anyway rng lynch is now proven to be antitown. So plz stfu about it = thx! no, yours doesn't say eight. you're really really bad at math. https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=19855202 mod 19 | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:17 WaveofShadow wrote: What about my post just before that one? I explained it a little better. I don't normally like voting people simply based on meta Vayne, but in your case I'll make an exception. BH enough with the RNG, if you've dropped support for it can you help out find scum somehow? Or is your goal to shit up the thread? 'Cause I know what kind of BH likes to do that. If you're trying to make me stop talking by threatening me, you can only expect me to talk more. I DO NOT BOW TO THE DEMaNDS OF TERRORISTS NATIONS The point of the RNG discussion is: I fairly RNGed Koshi. from now on, anyone who claims to really support RNG needs to start convincing people to vote Koshi, or they need to stop supporting RNG and scumhunt (ie, vote FT). that's it. | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:19 Koshi wrote: http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~dsri/modular-inversion-answer.php?n=19855202&p=19 Mine says eight I tell you. And it is from Princeton. Also. I am pretty good at math. clearly not, since you're using a modular inversion instead of modulo... | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:24 Koshi wrote: The good thing is that after this game people won't RNG anymore when I am in the game cuz I got proof. And I am in all the games. >implying people ever actually RNG lynch | ||
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all of my "wat" | ||
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I am not in favor of the RNG lynch on koshi. I think we should lynch FT. I did, however, roll the dice for the RNG in a fair and clear way. The post number Mod 19 method is foolproof and random. Koshi was randomly selected. I did this so that people would have to take stances wrt RNG. Now it's not "an RNG lynch" we're talking about, it's "the koshi rng lynch" so people actually gotta man up and take stances. This generates information. People have to have reasons. As someone who has a mild suspicion scum might try to hide behind the _concept_ of an RNG lynch, by making it real I know i can flush it out. | ||
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On September 28 2013 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote: Again, as one of the primary proponents of RNG today, when did I ever attempt to opt out of town discourse? Did anyone actually do this? If so, where? As the other primary proponent, I never attempted to opt out either. but the fact that the concept exists WITHOUT HAVING RNGED SOMEONE is bad. In fact, multiple people (not sure if you) said "yeah, I like RNG lynch but looks like we can't RNG anyone so I guess my support for it is meaningless" WELL YOU GUYS JUST GOT PUNKED. | ||
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like honestly I could have rnged at any time but first yamato then FT seemed like a better idea to me than rnging a lynch. I figured I'd defuse the whole "rng" situation by actually rolling the dice so that people would get on my FT wagon. just like how a policy lynch seems like a good idea until you have a scumread, so too the rng lynch seems. also yeah FT is obviously trying to appease me, very funny FT | ||
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On September 28 2013 04:32 VisceraEyes wrote: Explain your FT suspicion to me as if you thought I was an idiot, which shouldn't be hard given that you expect me to believe this bullshit. So basically, I view a good way of distinguishing town from scum as "town can do some things more easily than scum can". Obviously, you would probably expect town to be promoting a good town environment, pushing reads, and taking strong stances. However, scum can also do these things. A skilled scum player (say, myself) could easily push reads and take strong stances. So how do we tell a scum player from a town player? Well, a big part of this is the player's mindset. It's one thing to make a push. But it's another thing to make a well-reasoned push. Scum can easily fake "X is scum", but not as easily fake "X is scum and here's my thought process as to why it happened!" because faking a mindset and chain of logic is inherently more difficult. When town players (most of the time) have a scumread, in their mind there is a REASON for it. This reason naturally comes through because they explain it to other townies in an attempt to get their target lynched. This explanation and reasoning is called a "push" or "case" most of the time. FT, in dropping his vote on Shiaopi (and dropping some mad suspicion on grack), did not show his mindset, his reasoning, his case. Someone astutely noted that given what FT has said, grack would be the natural vote! FT was very suspicious of grack and actually gave reasons (albeit shitty reasons) why grack might be scum. However, instead, with almost no explanation, FT voted ShiaoPi. When questioned on it later, he said, On September 28 2013 03:05 FirmTofu wrote: Of course it is a shit vote. I wanted ShiaoPi to contribute. It has served its purpose from what I can tell of ShiaoPi's filter. It provided the impetus for a contributing ShiaoPi. That, in itself, is reason enough to justify my actions. I knew my "reasoning" was weak at best. Consider my motivations of my action; consider the result I am trying to get. and earlier when questioned about his grack suspicion and asked for reasoning, he said, On September 27 2013 15:41 FirmTofu wrote: You can, and you will. I'm going to actually go to bed now. ^_^ and he never followed up. His only follow-up on return (besides backtracking his shiaopi vote, a VERY EASY thing for him to do since he provided no reasoning) was... On September 28 2013 03:30 FirmTofu wrote: ##vote: Koshi I'm keeping my word here. BH's solution to the RNG problem is quite inventive. I will double check if it was truly random, but if it was I'm sticking with Koshi. 30% are pretty good odds. BH, why aren't you voting Koshi? On September 28 2013 03:38 FirmTofu wrote: Absent and defending me. Everytime that's happened, he's been scum. and of course calling me town. Where's his grack suspicion? Did he drop it for the RNG vote? Admittedly, he stated support for the RNG vote earlier, so the fact that he cast his vote for the RNG isn't terrible. But he scolds town to continue scumhunting, and does not do it himself. Where's the pressure on Rayne and Grack, his two supposed scumreads? Where's the attempt to hunt scum? Where's the accountability? There is none. FT is scum. | ||
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On September 28 2013 04:53 VisceraEyes wrote: I'd rather you just say that you'll vote Yamato with me if Koshi doesn't get the support it so rightly deserves. I'm down for a yamato lynch. | ||
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On September 28 2013 05:00 VisceraEyes wrote: Then I don't care if you lied about RNG. ^^ ._. no lies happened noob | ||
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On September 28 2013 05:04 VisceraEyes wrote: You lied about supporting RNG. Don't deny it it's explicit in your posts. I don't care, I'm just saying you're a liar. Embrace it. I didn't lie about shit and you're a dirty liar for calling me a liar. | ||
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btw if we end up rando lynching Koshi i take all credit as king of the rando lynch | ||
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On September 28 2013 06:12 yamato77 wrote: You policy voted me. Since when is that a good way to find mafia? Right now I think you're full of shit. vote me or can it. | ||
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i don't see a vote | ||
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On September 28 2013 06:22 yamato77 wrote: We all know me voting for BH right now doesn't do much. He won't do anything different, and I won't have my vote to slap someone else with that might. If I feel like he needs to die, it will happen. Oh, sure, that's a great reason. NOT | ||
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so are you saying i'm town or what | ||
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TTY hat one is truly goal I believe with you mrcc your words are inspire. let's make history together. I am in for a penny a shilling and a point manly history time ##unvote ##vote koshi I love turned | ||
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On September 28 2013 14:12 Pandain wrote: I feel like we're sacrificing logic for glory hmm yes Palomar speaks the truth [b]##Unvote/[b] I must meditate on this fontnight | ||
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On September 28 2013 14:32 Oatsmaster wrote: I think your read on me will be stupid and incompentent town that is really lucky. YOU GOT THE FIRSTPART RIGHT | ||
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I also see the non-RNG case for a Koshi lynch. In addition to his huge anger, he's also like contributing and interacting a bit less than he did in GS Mini. That being said, I think we really have a slam dunk with yamato or potentially FT. Whatever meta reasons you guys may give for them (yamato always shits up the thread, or FT always gets mislynched D1) from an objective standpoint these guys need to be lynched. This is basically true. FT is not a realistic lynch option today, so I would like to advise all who are not on board for a Koshi lynch (for whatever reason) to join me in voting Yamato. ##vote yamato77 That being said, I find the circumstances surrounding WoS's unvote of Koshi to be highly suspicious. I don't buy his reason at all. WoS, until your vote is back on Koshi I ##FoS WoS. Your lack of faith disturbs me. | ||
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On September 29 2013 02:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: BH, if you are town, read this. You are not playing, you are coaching, in this very game. And that's bad. you're bad | ||
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HES NOT GETTING LYNCHEd, WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO RESISTANCE. | ||
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"but WoS isn't getting lynched how can you even-" "herp derp it's raising my hackles" ughhhhhhhhhh why did i even wake up today | ||
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I announce it beforehand and this is what I get funk being nice. asshole time | ||
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If I am scum I would shoot rayh 100 percent tonight. I always shoot loud players who oppose me. I know I am town therefore there is at least one scum team that doesn't have rayne on it. I'm talking to you guys. please shoot rayne tonight. he's annoying me and im tired of reading his posts. it will make me look bad when he gets nked potentially netting you guys a mislynch. consider it! | ||
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PS at dentist so expect four phosts | ||
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and I don't suppose you're down for a wos swap | ||
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On September 29 2013 04:36 WaveofShadow wrote: If yamato flips town I get the feeling I should be looking at you first. hue | ||
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also yamato you got waht you deserved! I'd lynch you again! | ||
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btw scummy looking townies don't use your vest tonight in case the cops cocaine you. "oh no bh is coaching here" stuff it it's important to say that | ||
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What's scummy isn't coaching, it's coaching instead of scumhunting. It's coaching in an attempt to look like contributing when you're not. Coaching is completely normal town behavior. It's coaching alone that isn't. So yeah suck on that coach-sayers | ||
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On September 30 2013 01:48 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah you're right. Palmar is way too much of a dumbass to be able to come up with town reads as scum. You have correctly identified my thought process and my alignment. it's possible you are being sarcastic here but palmar is actually a pretty good player | ||
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On September 30 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote: I find myself in a catch 22 where if I contribute people will think I'm scum and if I don't contribute I am a good "policy lynch" I wonder why towns are doing poorly lately... just contribute and fuck da police | ||
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1) FT still an okay lynch 2) rayn probably scum if i'm alive i'll be going after him 3) palm town | ||
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