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##Unvote ##Vote Oats at least to consolidate later votes. | ||
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His votes have been popular but that doesn't mean he is scum. That is why certain targets are popular, those people are suspicious. FT caught on to them. Furthermore he contributed his own discussion on S0lstice and CR especially the latter when they weren't being talked about. I am going to repeat this because every argument I see for him being scum doesn't point to him being scum it's just something suspicious. And hopefully good mafia players understand the difference between someone playing funkily, or suspiciously, and them playing like a scum player who is trying to kill others. On October 02 2013 05:20 FirmTofu wrote: Seriously, it's so fucking stupid how WRONG I've been about everything recently. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It's fucking frustrating. Just going to take a hiatus before I just spiral. fuck me This cannot be faked and he is not scum. I am furthermore going back to Vayne as I do believe he is scum and I believe I can get him lynched easier. Furthermore in Golden Sun Oats was retarded so I will hold off on him. On October 03 2013 05:52 VayneAuthority wrote: also I assume hiro was shot by a scumteam that thought he was on the other scumteam...time to look at who thought he was scummy. I assume we lost the cocaine covered prius/motorcycle/lethal force abilities since they seem to make more sense for a loose cannon cop This is not a town post and it does not help town to reveal where cops have been weakened. I am going to ask you all to read Vayne's filter and realize this: 1. He really has not contributed shit while normally Vayne just lurks and doesn't even appear to contribute shit. 2. A great percentage of his posts focus on night actions which makes sense from a scum mindset. 3. Given the amount of town vs. scum that we have it would make sense for Vayne to start being more aggressive now and not just sheep an FT who he wasn't even confident on before. Instead he just follows town sentimnet. Sheeping for a non-sheep player. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897&user=VayneAuthority&view=all | ||
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SnB being related to Firmtofu is flawed. On October 03 2013 07:06 VayneAuthority wrote: anyways vote for firmtofu, SnB's flip says a lot about him ##vote: Firmtofu On October 03 2013 14:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Grack reads: - Koshi town, Hiro scum, Palmar scum. Hiro reads: - not a whole lot - suspicion on Oats, SnB, Pandain, Shiao, maybe Palmar? SnB Reads like a hella bus of FT and a way to back down from Shiao. I can't believe FT lynch has had so much resistance over the entire game. OH WAIT I CAN IT'S BECAUSE HE'S SCUM Let's look at that SnB post. On October 02 2013 00:06 strongandbig wrote: These vote counts are the best thing ever. I don't like how the shiaopi wagon has just defused without anyone ever actually defending him. Wos and co have given legitimate reasons why they think ft is more likely to flip scum than shiaopi, so that's okay. Although I really don't like koshi's complete indifference to which one of the two gets lynched. What I don't see is any evidence that the people voting for vayne have actually put any reasoning into why he's a better lynch than shiaopi. Or even than FT, in some cases. ChairmanRay - you have explained why you don't want to lynch tofu, but why did you vote vayne instead of shiaopi? Why is vayne more likely to flip scum than shiaopi is? Pandain - why are you voting VA over tofu? You said earlier you thought tofu was scum and have reasons for it. Tofu - did you do that filter diving like you said you would? Why'd you unvote shiaopi and then vote vayne? Right now I'd rather lynch tofu than vayne, and will vote accordingly if necessary. The tofu case from wos is just more persuasive to me than the mini cases on vayne from pandain and ray. That said, shiaopi is my preferred lynch over either of those, and I don't understand why or how this push went away, so I'm keeping my vote there for now. Does anyone else not see a bus at all? He laid suspicion on primarily SP and the only thing he said was that FT was a good case, which scum would do anyway if they felt someone was suspicious. Laying suspicion on someone as scum doesn't actually indicate whether that person is scum or not as heavily as you guys think. Other things which I can't sum up in a convieniant title On October 02 2013 05:45 WaveofShadow wrote: Before I go, let's remind us all of a few things: Vote analysis - can't find a time where FT wasn't just voting along with popular sentiment at the time. The VA vote is HUGE evidence of this because VA was never in any real danger of getting lynched, yet FT assumed that because a whole bunch of people piled on him at once, it was safe. His reaction to the shenanigans: Apparently it's extremely confusing to FT that people decided to vote his 'scumread' rather than him. And I know I'm one to defend people's emotions and whatnot but I'm sorry, I just don't believe this. Honestly, the second quote is more believable than the first. Don't ask me why, just goin' on guts. I'm going to keep pushing VA and FT for scum until I die tonight, and then you guys can forget about my reads just like you do for every other confirmed townie! I'm not using my vest. Scum, it's your call. Apparently I'm not exactly a threat this game since people won't listen but if you're still scurred of me I'm a free range fucking turkey. Saying he votes with the majority a lot of the times isn't surprising when he was up for lynch day two and day one Yamato was suspicious and FT consistantly agreed with RNG lynch. That's shitty reasoning and you know it. It's been two days. He reacted that way because he thought he was going to get lynched and then literally in the last minute 4:59 he was saved by two vote switches. FT posting little is a myth he's posted fine for his previous meta, Vayne is a better choice. | ||
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On September 30 2013 10:17 VayneAuthority wrote: I don't see why you actually take the time to address that "scumslip" unless you have some serious inherent guilt On September 30 2013 10:21 VayneAuthority wrote: Actually there is a fairly large difference, addressing a good/strong argument is a necessity. defending yourself against a "scumslip" at a time when everybody was just bullshitting is inherent guilt. I don't know what to make of it though since as far as I can tell he is a very passive/apologetic player. On September 30 2013 10:24 VayneAuthority wrote: I'm backtracking though since for him as a player it doesn't necessarily say anything. It's better to look at the timeline of what happens http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=429897¤tpage=83#1658. He lays suspicion on HP, I call him out on it, he backtracks in very short time. He then goes AFK for 5 hours later. To me he was either trying to throw in suspicion so as to create discord but didn't actually have evidence so he backtracked, or he somehow got a conclusion and then disagreed with himself despite there clearly not being enough time for a good read of HP's filter to re-analyze HP. | ||
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On October 02 2013 04:59 Palmar wrote: We can just lynch him tomorrow Today is about making rayn look bad. | ||
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I can't believe austin you still don't see how scummy Vayne has been with absolutely shit votes with no follow-up, huge set-up speculation which honestly can't be done unless you have inside knowledge, backtracks, no actual content despite 8 fucking pages of filter , and the such. How can you think he's objectively a better lynch then a Palmar who honestly I think might just be retarded. | ||
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