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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 05:24 GMT
#1030
On September 28 2013 14:22 Koshi wrote:
Wyy are you letting this happen WoS?

I'm not sure honestly. I'm caught up in the fun of being bad I suppose?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:06 GMT
#1147
VE....
I'm weak.
I can't do it.


##Unvote
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:06 GMT
#1148
I don't want Koshi to hate me forever.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:06 GMT
#1149
Dat tunnel Rayn. How ya doin' buddy?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:07 GMT
#1152
On September 29 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so we lynch you instead so you don't have to hate Koshi ok?

Go for it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:07 GMT
#1153
On September 29 2013 02:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Can you answer my case WoS?

Link plx?
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:08 GMT
#1154
Even though we both know how it'll end up.
I will come up with a completely coherent answer of how whatever I did you find scummy comes from town.
You'll say: "Nope nope WoS scum lynch him bros"
And I'll have wasted my time, as in every game we have this little exchange.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:11 GMT
#1157
On September 29 2013 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is it so that every post you make makes me think you are scummier and scummier. You can't even look my case up by yourself?

You want me to answer it, link it to me.
Pretty simple.
Lol in Persona it was scummy because I didn't want to bother with you, now it's scummy because I do?
You;re a super cutie.

Is there anything I can ever do that you won't find scummy when you're in retard-rayn-tunnel-mode?
I think not.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:15 GMT
#1162
On September 29 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2013 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay this is why WaveofShadow is mafia:

1) His opening posts are horrible, town!WoS is not horrible. He is promoting bad town atmosphere and that's not a thing a townie should ever be doing and he knows it. His emoness is stupid filler in his post and it's not necessary. It's faked.

2) His case one me was really bad. The things he said about me do not make me mafia, it's about last game i tunneled him and the purpose of that post is not to get me lynched (he doesn't really even try it). He is just producing "content" that serves no purpose and on top of that is wrong, the only reason for his post is "don't listen to rayn, he is bad".

3) After that he retracts from his comment about me being scum. If he is town, in the first place (as he has called me scum) he has read my posts, correct? Correct! Well what does WoS do after that. He says "no rayn is town after all". Okay. What's his next post? "Oh shit i forgot, multiple scumteams, maybe rayn is scum after all". There is no way WoS does not remember there are multiple scumteams in case he is town. In case he is town he has read my posts and a lot of my posts talk about Palmar and him not being necessarily town because of multiple scumteams in this game. Therefore, if WoS is town, he cannot "not remember the existance of multiple scumteams". This is the most damning evidence and it makes WaveofShadow scum.

ggnore



1) Not faked. Ask anyone who I talked to after I died in Noire. I admitted it was a little over the top shortly after that but I am legitimately annoyed I rolled town this game.

2) You're right that it was bad, but I was expressing my thoughts. I have zero issues doing that, as you can see from your third point. Why would I bother posting that I forgot something at all if mafia? You honestly think it's worth it for me as scum to risk people like you tunneling on something that appears fake?'

3) It has nothing to do with me not remembering the presence of multiple scumteams, it's HOW the presence of those multiple scumteams affects my read which I thought about while posting this. It was stream-of-consciousness. A scumteam in this game does not act like normal scum because they legitimately need to scumhunt, which affects the way you play. I know it would affect mine in that way.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:19 GMT
#1164
On September 29 2013 02:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 29 2013 02:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why is it so that every post you make makes me think you are scummier and scummier. You can't even look my case up by yourself?

You want me to answer it, link it to me.
Pretty simple.
Lol in Persona it was scummy because I didn't want to bother with you, now it's scummy because I do?
You;re a super cutie.

Is there anything I can ever do that you won't find scummy when you're in retard-rayn-tunnel-mode?
I think not.

I want you to be reasonable, which you are, as town. You are not being reasonable now WoS. If you are town man the fuck up, answer me and find mafia.

Don't you fucking dare tell me I haven't been scumhunting/attempting to find mafia this game.

I have scumreads on VA since nearly the fucking start, yamato has done dick all this game which means he probs scum (though it worries me slightly that he's somewhat of a popular side-wagon), FT likely scum due to his horrible opening posts.

Rayn nothing I will do once you've gotten like this will ever appease you. You know and I know it. So keep pushing your retarded tunnel for the rest of the day. Either people will listen to you or they won't. I don't want to turn this into Persona D1, I'd actually like to be useful for the rest of today if town is actually REALLY fucking retarded and listens to you.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:24 GMT
#1166
I've explained it about a hundred fucking times.
VA attempting to be useful in the early game = scum.
In most if not all games I've played with him, a trying VA means a scum VA (or one who contributes but his contributions are intentionally bad). A useless as shit VA likely means he's town. (See Noire)

I will admit him fucking off for the last little while causes me a bit of pause, but his reaction to me attempting to get him lynched is a scum reaction in his case because he enjoys his scum play much more so than his townplay, is proud of not having been lynched as scum and so doesn't want this to be the first time.

This is very meta-based I am well aware but I have played scum with Vayne. I am aware of how he works.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:29 GMT
#1173
On September 29 2013 02:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 02:15 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 29 2013 02:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On September 28 2013 19:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay this is why WaveofShadow is mafia:

1) His opening posts are horrible, town!WoS is not horrible. He is promoting bad town atmosphere and that's not a thing a townie should ever be doing and he knows it. His emoness is stupid filler in his post and it's not necessary. It's faked.

2) His case one me was really bad. The things he said about me do not make me mafia, it's about last game i tunneled him and the purpose of that post is not to get me lynched (he doesn't really even try it). He is just producing "content" that serves no purpose and on top of that is wrong, the only reason for his post is "don't listen to rayn, he is bad".

3) After that he retracts from his comment about me being scum. If he is town, in the first place (as he has called me scum) he has read my posts, correct? Correct! Well what does WoS do after that. He says "no rayn is town after all". Okay. What's his next post? "Oh shit i forgot, multiple scumteams, maybe rayn is scum after all". There is no way WoS does not remember there are multiple scumteams in case he is town. In case he is town he has read my posts and a lot of my posts talk about Palmar and him not being necessarily town because of multiple scumteams in this game. Therefore, if WoS is town, he cannot "not remember the existance of multiple scumteams". This is the most damning evidence and it makes WaveofShadow scum.

ggnore



1) Not faked. Ask anyone who I talked to after I died in Noire. I admitted it was a little over the top shortly after that but I am legitimately annoyed I rolled town this game.

2) You're right that it was bad, but I was expressing my thoughts. I have zero issues doing that, as you can see from your third point. Why would I bother posting that I forgot something at all if mafia? You honestly think it's worth it for me as scum to risk people like you tunneling on something that appears fake?'

3) It has nothing to do with me not remembering the presence of multiple scumteams, it's HOW the presence of those multiple scumteams affects my read which I thought about while posting this. It was stream-of-consciousness. A scumteam in this game does not act like normal scum because they legitimately need to scumhunt, which affects the way you play. I know it would affect mine in that way.

1) You know i can't do it, but fair enough.
2) Okay so why did you make a bad post without thinking it through first?
3) So how multiple scumteams affect to your read on me? And why did you go from rayn scum -- rayn town -- no, rayn might be scum?

1) Hmm...yeah I suppose you're right...I wasn't exactly considering how that might affect it. Alright well fuck that one then.
2) Stream-of-consciousness. I'm not worried about looking shitty as town, to me it's more important to get my thoughts across even if I can't explain them properly.
3) This one I can't explain. You'll just have to accept the fact that it's a bunch of stuff I thought about while I was posting all of this. I can promise you I am telling the truth, and if you want to ask me about it in postgame I can tell you then if you're genuinely curious. Marv asked me about my towntell on him in Noire and I happily obliged him once we were both dead (though I'm sort of regretting that since I STILL haven't played with scum marv before and that'll just make it harder for me lolol)

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:30 GMT
#1175
On September 29 2013 02:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS i read every scum QT of every game, always. Your read on VA is bad.

As do I.
He is scum this game.
Trust.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:35 GMT
#1180
On September 29 2013 02:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Hello everyone. Wow, Koshi seems to be putting on quite a show of "being mad". The fact that you unvote him for this WoS is totally weak. Are you really worried about Koshi's eternal hatred? Is there anything about his vitriol that he's more likely to do as town than scum? He could easily do this as scum. Get your head on your neck.

I also see the non-RNG case for a Koshi lynch. In addition to his huge anger, he's also like contributing and interacting a bit less than he did in GS Mini. That being said, I think we really have a slam dunk with yamato or potentially FT. Whatever meta reasons you guys may give for them (yamato always shits up the thread, or FT always gets mislynched D1) from an objective standpoint these guys need to be lynched. This is basically true. FT is not a realistic lynch option today, so I would like to advise all who are not on board for a Koshi lynch (for whatever reason) to join me in voting Yamato.

##vote yamato77

That being said, I find the circumstances surrounding WoS's unvote of Koshi to be highly suspicious. I don't buy his reason at all. WoS, until your vote is back on Koshi I ##FoS WoS. Your lack of faith disturbs me.

Koshi isn't scum, BH. People are really quick to try and dismiss emotional reactions as faking it but I've found that is often RARELY true. We got really fucked in Bluelightz for example because of stuff DrH did when replacing out---he was legitimately pissed AND he was scum. EVeryone always thinks everyone is faking shit. If anything I'm more inclined to start believing most emotional reactions are real before they are faked.

I unvoted partially because I know were I in these circumstances I could see myself reacting the way Koshi is (and I'd probably be mad fucking pissed, as I've already stated in an earlier post), and secondly because as much as I'm really fucking aggravated with town and kinda want this RNG lynch to go through, it may just be making the shit towns situation worse, and no matter how much I try not to care, I can't fucking help it. It's going to lead to me being even more pissed by endgame probs, but so be it, that's mafia.

The slow push on yamato scares me a little. I agree he looks way more like scum yamato in this game but the fact that there's been basically no resistance at all (though maybe this is due to alternate scumteam being on board lololol) gets my hackles up.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:36 GMT
#1183
On September 29 2013 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
WoS can you elaborate on my (3). What went through your head during those posts.

I can't Rayn. I am not making it up, but I honestly cannot tell you. If that makes me scum so be it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:38 GMT
#1190
On September 29 2013 02:36 Blazinghand wrote:
No resistance to the yamato lynch? HES NTO FUCKING GetTING LYNCHED

HES NOT GETTING LYNCHEd, WHAT DO YOU MEAN NO RESISTANCE.

Dem caps.
People have been calling him scummy all game, lurkers show up and throw their votes on him and shit. The only reason he's not getting lynched is because of VE's crazy push to Koshi RNG.
If I thought I could push a lynch through today I'd push VA but nobody wants to listen to me about that, they're simply content to call me bad and move on.

lol maybe I'll throw my vote back up onto Koshi.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:40 GMT
#1194
On September 29 2013 02:39 Blazinghand wrote:
WoS put your damn vote on koshi

lol what the shit? Pushing for yamato lynch and telling me to vote Koshi.

Who's herping and derping now?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:43 GMT
#1200
On September 29 2013 02:40 strongandbig wrote:
Here's what I conclude:
1. Chairman Ray, ShiaoPi and Grack are likely scum. They all joined in the randomlynch on koshi but were all reluctant or afraid to own it. The entire point of a random lunch is that if you are doing it you lunch it's target regardless of analysis.
- ray's long post analyzing koshi but not mentioning the rng lynch just really strikes me as scummy. The point of a random lynch is to circumvent analysis on your first target, giving better odds of hitting scum, and make analysis easier on your second target because of how people reacted to the peoposed random lunch.
- grack is also super scummy from the way he shifted from "I'm pro random lunc" before it was targeted to "koshi is scum" after if was targeted without still defending random lynch. Unwilling to stick up for / defend his views when it comes down to it.
- shiaopi - little harder to analyze because he posted so little before his vote. However the whole concept of "I'm against rng lunch but pro koshi lynch" is not necessarily scummy I guess if you have a strong read on the player (strong enough that you want townies who don't agree with your scum read to vote him anyway because you're so sure you're right and they're wrong. I don't see any evidence in shiaopi's filter that his scum read is strong or even exists on koshi before he voted for him. So voting for him after/becaus he was random lynch targeted but saying you don't suppose the random lynch but having a randomly showing up scum read seems really scummy to me.

Not alignment indicative for CR. He's meganoob and as such doesn't understand that what he did looks scummy.

Can't say much regarding grack/Shiao 'cause shiao basically hasn't been around all game and I got burned on grack before so I'm not confident in my ability to read him. Mebbe I should look tho anyway.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:44 GMT
#1201
On September 29 2013 02:41 Blazinghand wrote:
I try to be helpful even once

I announce it beforehand

and this is what I get

funk being nice. asshole time

Yay!
I missed you hunny
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
September 28 2013 17:47 GMT
#1213
On September 29 2013 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I can lynch Palmar too, he's scum.

Rayn please just fucking stop.
Frenzied rayn is shit useless rayn.
Sit back, get a cup of tea or something, and start using your brain, please. Pick a scumread and stick with it with 2 hours to go imo.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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