On October 08 2013 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You two, explain to me how is negotiating with Solstice harmful to the town?
You two, explain to me how is negotiating with Solstice harmful to the town?
If he, ya know, LIES to us.
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On October 08 2013 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 02:28 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: This seems risky to negotiate with mafia. Especially considering he could be part of either team, we can't trust him. Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 02:28 austinmcc wrote: On October 08 2013 02:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: ARAM and also writing I post where I tell you that you can make SENSE with your pushes/reads but they can still be wrong. But I don't like the way it comes out, really, and it's not currently helpful to finding scum.Why are Austin and Vayne so silent? Don't you guys have anything to say? Why? You two, explain to me how is negotiating with Solstice harmful to the town? If he, ya know, LIES to us. | ||
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On October 08 2013 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote: I already explained why I have no interest in doing any "deals" or whatever. if you want to lynch me and be disrespected like marv that's on your own time ^^ lol what? That's an odd sort of threat. What are you talking about? | ||
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On October 08 2013 02:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 02:33 austinmcc wrote: On October 08 2013 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also Austin, which of my pushes has been wrong? You were scummy on both ShiaoPi and FT. Voted them D2, were willing to vote FT D3. However, you were scummy on palmar, and seemed mixed on oats which is alright. To the extent you're pushing me, you're wrong again. To the extent you're pushing pandain scum and VA town, i THINK you're wrong, but we'll have to see flips. Only people i have been pushing this game are Palmar, Pandain, Solstice and WoS. I have never pushed you. Why are you forgetting my WoS push in the beginning of the game? WoS; When/If Solstice gives us info we analyze if it makes sense or not, and act on that. I am not saying we automatically trust him lol. Oh lol by all means I have no problem listening to him and having people attempt to barter, I'm just saying chances are I'm not going to want to go with it, as I have trust issues. | ||
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On October 08 2013 02:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: And Solstice is really stupid if he is the last banger and does not try to survive. It IS playing against his wincon. I am giving him a chance. That's not true. If he did stuff because he YOLO'd he just felt like making beeg plays on the last day on the off chance it would work, and now he's essentially conceding. Not against wincon to concede. it's up to him. | ||
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On October 08 2013 02:42 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote: I already explained why I have no interest in doing any "deals" or whatever. if you want to lynch me and be disrespected like marv that's on your own time ^^ lol what? That's an odd sort of threat. What are you talking about? ? you were in the game, only time i ever got lynched and afk while it happened. half of marv's case was that I didn't want everyone to mass claim, just because personally I feel that isn't right. It is the same sort of thing here if you think that is suspicious. Oh Basterd? HAHA yeah that lynch was pretty hilar. I agreed with you on the massclaim thing because I think it takes all of the fun out of a game (despite me having good reason not to want to massclaim in that game---I stand by if I were town I would have said the same thing). I'm not 100% certain this falls under the same category but I could see you thinking that. What I meant about the threat is, the marv 'disrespect.' Why is that a threat? | ||
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On October 08 2013 02:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 02:09 s0Lstice wrote: sorry for putting you through that Koshi, i had to do SOMETHING <3 But this post supports he in fact is... Very true. The thing is, given his scenario, I don't know if I'd be spiteful and give up other scumteam. It's not against his wincon just to give up at this point, and he may very well feel like doing otherwise simply ruins the game for other people without giving him any real chance of success (because let's be honest here. He's not survivor, we NEED to kill him to win and so does ballers). I think I'm coming to understand Vayne's PoV a little more here. In the end it's entirely up to Solstice himself and I wouldn't fault him either way. If you want to pressure him go ahead but imo he has nothing to lose here aside from maybe some perceived dignity depending on how he views giving town free info. | ||
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On October 08 2013 02:48 VayneAuthority wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 02:45 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 02:42 VayneAuthority wrote: On October 08 2013 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote: I already explained why I have no interest in doing any "deals" or whatever. if you want to lynch me and be disrespected like marv that's on your own time ^^ lol what? That's an odd sort of threat. What are you talking about? ? you were in the game, only time i ever got lynched and afk while it happened. half of marv's case was that I didn't want everyone to mass claim, just because personally I feel that isn't right. It is the same sort of thing here if you think that is suspicious. Oh Basterd? HAHA yeah that lynch was pretty hilar. I agreed with you on the massclaim thing because I think it takes all of the fun out of a game (despite me having good reason not to want to massclaim in that game---I stand by if I were town I would have said the same thing). I'm not 100% certain this falls under the same category but I could see you thinking that. What I meant about the threat is, the marv 'disrespect.' Why is that a threat? well I don't respect marv as a player after that little stunt, nothing more to it really. So I wouldn't respect rayn either if that was the reason his read changed on me. That's about it. To be completely honest, I'm willing to bet most people don't care at all about whether you respect them or not. I didn't find marv's lynch of you to be disrespectful. Shit like that happens all the time. | ||
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(I didn't. I was just super pissed.) | ||
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On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? I'm sort of curious myself. If solstice is a banger couldn't he theoretically lie and say he's not since our goal is inevitably to lower KP? Or am I not considering something? | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 03:00 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 02:54 s0Lstice wrote: On October 08 2013 02:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Sol, how is it? Deal or no deal? Your choise. gimme a bit im still turning over possibilities. what is the plan if I agree? I'm sort of curious myself. If solstice is a banger couldn't he theoretically lie and say he's not since our goal is inevitably to lower KP? Or am I not considering something? If he says he is not a banger we lynch him. If he is not he is 100% our best chance to hit mafia, noone comes even close. Wat. So now we don't care about reducing KP tonight? | ||
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Maybe didn't bank on Rayn's 'make a deal' scenarios? Solstice could very well be wasting our time right at the end right now and have no intention in considering a deal. Anyway carry on. | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: well he is dumb if he doesn't try, but i can't make him.. I've already explained why that isn't true and isn't fair. (What was dumb imo was the payphone in the first place...) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What if FAKE PAYPHONE AND CC SCUM WITH SOLSTICE | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:14 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + Then we'll find out with flipOn October 08 2013 03:13 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: well he is dumb if he doesn't try, but i can't make him.. I've already explained why that isn't true and isn't fair. (What was dumb imo was the payphone in the first place...) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What if FAKE PAYPHONE AND CC SCUM WITH SOLSTICE Not entirely because CC could still be baller if Solstice MCB Sucks for CC he lynches scum and still goes under the microscope. Although i guess it's the same for you Austin. lol these 2x scumteam games----you can be a town hero and people dont (and shouldn't) give a shit | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 03:19 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 03:14 austinmcc wrote: On October 08 2013 03:13 WaveofShadow wrote: Then we'll find out with flipOn October 08 2013 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: well he is dumb if he doesn't try, but i can't make him.. I've already explained why that isn't true and isn't fair. (What was dumb imo was the payphone in the first place...) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What if FAKE PAYPHONE AND CC SCUM WITH SOLSTICE Not entirely because CC could still be baller if Solstice MCB Sucks for CC he lynches scum and still goes under the microscope. Although i guess it's the same for you Austin. lol these 2x scumteam games----you can be a town hero and people dont (and shouldn't) give a shit WoS explain this? Cause Austin helped lynch Palmar and he is by no means confirmed town? | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey WoS, why did you not realize what i was doing? 'Cause I didn't? lol Rayn have I ever caught on to your little plays? NWM? Persona? | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:30 s0Lstice wrote: rayn you need to stop lying as town if you're town I'd say this but Rayn is probably the ONLY person I have ever seen this kindof thing work for in the past. | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:30 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + s0lstice isn't dumb either. The whole thing wasn't gonna go anywhere.On October 08 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because Pandain actually figured out what i was doing. Most likely. Because he is not dumb. And yeah wait a minute wtf? i didn't think it was gonna go anywhere either...? What exactly WERE you trying to do here? | ||
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I already said I wasn't moving my vote from Solstice and it certainly didn't appear as though anyone else was. | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:33 austinmcc wrote: Show nested quote + PEER INTO THE DEPTHS OF MAN'S SOUL.On October 08 2013 03:32 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 03:30 austinmcc wrote: On October 08 2013 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: s0lstice isn't dumb either. The whole thing wasn't gonna go anywhere.Because Pandain actually figured out what i was doing. Most likely. Because he is not dumb. And yeah wait a minute wtf? i didn't think it was gonna go anywhere either...? What exactly WERE you trying to do here? Trying to do where? When I ask Pandain why he wouldn't kill the last remaining MCB? See what Pandain's reasoning was. When I don't try to lie to s0lstice and tell him he can win? Save my breath because he'll figure it out. When I ask s0lstice why he claimed cop? Try and figure out why. I meant Rayn. Because I did the same stuff you did. (Except of course I had him voted from the start and was going to lynch him all day and wasn't trying to get town to lynch someone else. ) :D | ||
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On October 08 2013 03:33 s0Lstice wrote: Show nested quote + On October 08 2013 03:31 WaveofShadow wrote: On October 08 2013 03:30 s0Lstice wrote: rayn you need to stop lying as town if you're town I'd say this but Rayn is probably the ONLY person I have ever seen this kindof thing work for in the past. this is why he will keep doing it : / i am a firm believer in no lying as town Me too. Which is why I never do. Hell I barely lie as scum/3P. | ||
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