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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 04:28 GMT
#3972
I'm gonna wait on Koshi and Rayn before discussing this any further.
Also VE, the King of Claims.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 04:30 GMT
#3975
CC WHY WOULD YOU CLAIM COP IM SO ANGRY AT YOU RAWR IM A NOIRE TOWN MEMBER
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 04:31 GMT
#3977
I thought of something else that's actually interesting.
Is there anyone that both Koshi and Solstice have said is scum?
We may be able to defer figuring out who is fakeclaiming and wait on more info from more flips in the meantime.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 04:31 GMT
#3979
On October 06 2013 13:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
IT WAS A JOKE MAN I SAID GUILTY ON A CONFIRMED TOWNIE OMG GET OVER IT

NO YOU CLAIMED COP IT MEANT YOU WERE TOTES SERIOUS RAWRAWRAWRAWR
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 12:34 GMT
#3988
I believe you'd better help us clear this up in any way you can.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 12:59 GMT
#3994
Koshi, that's not even remotely good enough.

The problem here is solstices counterclaim looks really good with the details and whatnot. Surely you should be able to prove why they're false? Give us some details too.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 13:20 GMT
#4004
Koshi.
Effort.
Now.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 13:46 GMT
#4010
Context koshi.
I was talking about how I was wrong about my townread on solstice.

When you do get home I really hope we get something better than what you offered so far.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 16:41 GMT
#4131
Hey Koshi.
I'm just starting to catch up now based on where I left off and I just thought I'd stop to write fuck you.
How dare you blame anything on me and saying I'm not taking a stance.
Are you fucking blind?
MY VOTE IS ON FUCKING SOLSTICE.

That is all.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 17:11 GMT
#4161
On October 07 2013 02:03 Koshi wrote:
I ll address everything when I am home. 1 hour.

Thank jeebus that VE is on my side.

Fuck this attitude.
I hate your posting this game Koshi. If you were about to be lynched because you got counterclaimed you think you'd take shit seriously.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 17:27 GMT
#4173
Simple scenario is the most likely.
Solstice is desperate so he claimed.

That's what it comes down to imo.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 18:58 GMT
#4229
Simple scenario is daaaa best
The only thing I have trouble with now + Show Spoiler +
(aside from why did a scum solstice bother doing this in the first place----probably impatience imo because I imagine it's ridiculously nerve-wracking when your survival is entirely out of your own hands---oh wait I know about that survivor lololol)
is why was Koshi not shot? Is the explanation 'because he only soft-claimed and maybe scum didn't believe him and he didn't get shot the night after that 'cause he WIFOMed them into thinking he'd be busdriving?'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:04 GMT
#4234
On October 07 2013 04:01 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 03:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Simple scenario is daaaa best
The only thing I have trouble with now + Show Spoiler +
(aside from why did a scum solstice bother doing this in the first place----probably impatience imo because I imagine it's ridiculously nerve-wracking when your survival is entirely out of your own hands---oh wait I know about that survivor lololol)
is why was Koshi not shot? Is the explanation 'because he only soft-claimed and maybe scum didn't believe him and he didn't get shot the night after that 'cause he WIFOMed them into thinking he'd be busdriving?'
Except that he got called out HARD for soft-claiming by multiple people before N2.

I can understand scum maybe not believing him, but then it's "do we think scum want grack / hiro dead more than a townie who might be cop?"

Like, even if they don't believe, if he's town he's town. At worst, they kill a townie, and they might get a cop if they believe. In townKoshi world, they took shots on grack and hiro rather than maybecop koshi.

I already explained this.
Makes more sense to shoot people who nobody was likely to protect or might have been 'other team scum.'
Neither of them looked particularly good.

The fact remains that the 'right' play here is to lynch solstice, regardless of the shitfest between them simply based on circumstance. I will admit solstice's arguments have been somewhat compelling in certain ways but given the way towns have been playing I really want to make the 'right' call here. If we are wrong and solstice was the cop then in my opinion it is more his fault than ours for trying to 'make plays' without having any idea what he was doing.

And yeah, I'm well aware that's kind of a shitty attitude and absolving myself of responsibility if I AM wrong and Solstice just screwed up, but I know what the right call is in this scenario and I'm taking it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:07 GMT
#4236
On October 07 2013 04:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 03:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Simple scenario is daaaa best
The only thing I have trouble with now + Show Spoiler +
(aside from why did a scum solstice bother doing this in the first place----probably impatience imo because I imagine it's ridiculously nerve-wracking when your survival is entirely out of your own hands---oh wait I know about that survivor lololol)
is why was Koshi not shot? Is the explanation 'because he only soft-claimed and maybe scum didn't believe him and he didn't get shot the night after that 'cause he WIFOMed them into thinking he'd be busdriving?'

I think both scumteam sacced KP last night? That was the wisest thing for them. Apparently not though, as VE was shot and solstice telephoned CC (unless they are both in the same scumteam, but that's practically impossible). lol, dumb scum.

I have a theory on Solstice's actions, but it doesn't really matter, because we'll lynch him either way.

If solstice is last banger then he could have had 1.5 KP, shot VE and used telephone. Mere speculation but that's what I think is possible.

I don't think 3rd banger saccing KP was a good call last night because he wants as many people dead as possible as soon as possible so that he actually has a chance at winning----except then he called CC.

I REALLY hope I'm not wrong about CC being town btw, because that just opens up a whole new can of worms after today's flip.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#4238
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:09 GMT
#4241
Oh and once all this is done, I'm done trying to protect CR on newbie status.
CR is my next lynch after this. I have asked him to contribute numerous times and he has flat-out avoided shit altogether. Worse than Austin avoiding my read of him which at least he eventually addressed to some degree.

If he cared about this game he'd be here and posting---the spotlight is off him now and he's gone.
Pandain too.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#4244
On October 07 2013 04:09 s0Lstice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:01 austinmcc wrote:
On October 07 2013 03:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Simple scenario is daaaa best
The only thing I have trouble with now + Show Spoiler +
(aside from why did a scum solstice bother doing this in the first place----probably impatience imo because I imagine it's ridiculously nerve-wracking when your survival is entirely out of your own hands---oh wait I know about that survivor lololol)
is why was Koshi not shot? Is the explanation 'because he only soft-claimed and maybe scum didn't believe him and he didn't get shot the night after that 'cause he WIFOMed them into thinking he'd be busdriving?'
Except that he got called out HARD for soft-claiming by multiple people before N2.

I can understand scum maybe not believing him, but then it's "do we think scum want grack / hiro dead more than a townie who might be cop?"

Like, even if they don't believe, if he's town he's town. At worst, they kill a townie, and they might get a cop if they believe. In townKoshi world, they took shots on grack and hiro rather than maybecop koshi.

I already explained this.
Makes more sense to shoot people who nobody was likely to protect or might have been 'other team scum.'
Neither of them looked particularly good.

The fact remains that the 'right' play here is to lynch solstice, regardless of the shitfest between them simply based on circumstance. I will admit solstice's arguments have been somewhat compelling in certain ways but given the way towns have been playing I really want to make the 'right' call here. If we are wrong and solstice was the cop then in my opinion it is more his fault than ours for trying to 'make plays' without having any idea what he was doing.

And yeah, I'm well aware that's kind of a shitty attitude and absolving myself of responsibility if I AM wrong and Solstice just screwed up, but I know what the right call is in this scenario and I'm taking it.


WoS don't be doing this. This is driven in part by the 'oh fuck' moment if you lynch Koshi and it was me lying after all. You have to ignore the stakes, because it clouds judgement.

You keep saying that Koshi's side is the simpler one. That is not as clear as you are saying it is. Think back again on how ludicrous what is happening right now is if I am scum. There is no simple explanation here, both sides require some kind of craziness. Like I told you earlier, I think you know the right answer. This game makes a lot more sense with Koshi scum, Oats is back on the table etc. You MUST Be feeling the unease that something was not quite right and THIS IS THE ANSWER.

This is completely not true. The less crazy explanation is you felt like going YOLO or trying to WIFOM us here with a 'well why would scum ever do this?' More crazy is a scum Koshi fakeclaiming cop that early and expecting not to get counterclaimed.

Yes I am feeling the unease regarding Oats and the Koshi/Rayn confirmation and whatnot but I have also been wrong a lot this game. I have no choice but to defer to what I believe the right plays are, and the people who have been doing better than me this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#4245
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:13 GMT
#4247
On October 07 2013 04:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rayn can you explain to me why you didn't bother playing the game until your butt buddy Koshi came under fire?

I have tried to lynch Palmar every single day in this game. If you guys do not listen to me, then i can't do anything about it.

After the Palmar lynch where were you?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 06 2013 19:16 GMT
#4251
On October 07 2013 04:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay hold on hold on.

Would not a scum s0L have to have sacrificed KP to payphone Cheese? That doesn't make any sense at all does it? Think about it - that means that they're trading one of their members (if they're wrong about Cheese being scum) while at the same time losing out on KP, in exchange for what?

If payphone is 0.5 then no. He could have had 1.5 KP.

How? Both teams have 1KP, which doesn't round up. If he sac'd KP then he couldn't have shot.

If he got 0.5 KP from an earlier night where he shot Hiro. (Becuse if he's a banger it would have had to be him who did that, while the other team shot SnB)
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