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On October 06 2013 12:21 s0Lstice wrote:right, the WoS prius and why it makes sense I deferred a lot to hiro. Here's why: Show nested quote +On September 27 2013 11:54 s0Lstice wrote:
Vanilla Percentage
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s0Lstice 10/11 = 90.9091%
vivi57 11/13 = 84.6154%
Lazermonkey 9/11 = 81.8182%
kushm4sta 13/16 = 81.2500%
VayneAuthority 8/10 = 80.0000%
Adam4167 11/15 = 73.3333%
phagga 8/11 = 72.7273%
Johnnyspazz 8/11 = 72.7273%
mkfuba07 8/11 = 72.7273%
stop hogging all the blue, guys Really don't have a lot of experience in this area. hiro is also generally a really smart dude I found, and a super vet. He flopped around on WoS: Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 04:57 hiro protagonist wrote:
real quick before the deadline.
Most likely town: VE, WoS, Grack, Koshi, austin
null: Palmer, ryan, VA, CR.
People I once thought as town, but are now slightly scummy: SaB, Panda, Oats
Scummy: Shiao... damn, doin up this list makes me realize how little other strong scum reads I had... this going into the night after Shiao's lynch. hiro was a lil worried about being on WoS radar so he tried to muddy the waters a bit. after the deadline: Show nested quote +On October 02 2013 17:39 hiro protagonist wrote:
In regards to WoS:
yes I was wishy washy on FT. I, like you, hated how he posted "i give up" when SP flipped. Fact is if he doesn't start posting the way he did at the end of day 2, Im gonna want to lynch him.
I didnt have a scum read on you, you where leaning scum in my book. It wasnt a strong feeling, but I didnt like how when you came into the game with a "towns so bad" combined with your going along with RNG. It looked like you where trying not to contribute at the time. you have contributed alot more sense then, so I feel like you are likly town now. flip flopy, yes, but reads change.
The reason I put up my reads list is because I was catching up on the thread. after catch up some of my reads changed. Ill go into more detail come morning.
Wat.
When was hiro EVER on my radar aside from when VE told me to look at him?
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I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail.
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Ok solstice, so you say you wanted to 'try something.'
What was it exactly that you attempted to 'try,' to catch the whole scumteam?
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On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits.
Talk about it now.
Like right now.
You don't get time to try and come up with shit.
Short version.
Right now.
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The thing is solstice, it SHOULD be a regular counterclaim at this point,.
You should be brimming with information and flying off the handle because you're so enraged that Koshi would even attempt such a thing.
THat's a fucking counterclaim.
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On October 06 2013 12:31 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok solstice, so you say you wanted to 'try something.'
What was it exactly that you attempted to 'try,' to catch the whole scumteam?
HOW.
I want you to outline this 'plan' of your specifically.
'Trying something' isn't good enough. What you did makes zero sense unless you actually had a prefabricated plan in mind.
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Also I'm pretty mad because this means I was wrong about YOU TOO and my fucking towntell failed.
Ladies and gentlemen let it be known: I had zero reason to be cocky at the start of this game and I apologize.
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On October 06 2013 12:32 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now. Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this. I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that.
I can actually believe that somewhat.
Now onto your grand plan to catch the scumteam.
Go.
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On October 06 2013 12:34 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:32 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now. Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this. I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that. I can actually believe that somewhat. Now onto your grand plan to catch the scumteam. Go.
And I also eventually want to hear the long version of your thought process re: Koshi and why you had to wait to get to Koshi instead of just saying that from the start.
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What are your thoughts on Koshi now?
Is he scum or not, and why?
And again, grand scumplan.
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On October 06 2013 12:39 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:34 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:32 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
I dunno man, I've done some counterclaiming in my time but there are so many holes and farfetched fabrications in here.
If you were really the cop you would honestly be able to prove it pretty easily imo.
I don't think I've ever seen a counterclaim fail from the person who is telling the truth and you look like you're going to fail. That's because your mind is already made up. Also, this isn't a typical counter-claim, we haven't talked about Koshi yet. Like I said earlier, cool your tits. Talk about it now. Like right now. You don't get time to try and come up with shit. Short version. Right now. Again, I don't have a fucking clue how to play blue. I don't really know how to act, my importance to town, and all that. I'm saying this not because I'm complaining, but because it should explain to you the weirdness of this. I didn't counter claim Koshi because I ended up thinking that he was town fake claiming to protect me. It really boils down to that. I can actually believe that somewhat. Now onto your grand plan to catch the scumteam. Go. It's not that difficult really. I don't have to do much except act like scum. Do you disagree that the scum teams should be highly interested in coordinating at this time? I wanted to capitalize on that and act through coordinating night hits for the future as well as possible mislynches/votes. It wouldn't take much to get the other scum members, and if he is the 1, then hey at least theres 1 confirmed scum.
Yes I do disagree with that and I explained it to Austin as such. Solo scumteam atm cannot win if he outs himself. It is literally IMPOSSIBLE. If he hides he at least has a shot. Simple as that.
Now as for the rest of this...why in the everloving FUCK would a scumteam whose wincon is to destroy the other scumteam agree to any of that? That's so goddamn stupid I can't believe you're suggesting it.
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On October 06 2013 12:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
koshi retracting the cop claim is the only way I dont vote s0lstice today. He led us to believe that koshi/VE/rayn were all confirmed for half the game if he was cop and thats no bueno.
And if he does retract that copclaim and is town we are probably going to lose.
I swear.
I fucking swear people fakeclaiming as town.
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On October 06 2013 12:44 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
There's NO WAY koshi is fakeclaiming as town. THAT'S BULLSHIT. KOSHI IF YOU ARE FUCKING FAKECLAIMING AS TOWN PLEASE GTFO FOREVER.
He COULD be faking as scum, but i refuse to believe it.
Pretty much this.
Honestly given how people play these days, Solstice's suggestion is actually way more likely to me if Koshi is town fakeclaiming than scum fakeclaiming.
I just really don't see the advantage to saccing a scum member to out the cop like that.
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Alright here is my stance right now.
If Koshi comes back and he admits to fakeclaiming, we lynch him.
End of story.
Even if it means we lose.
This loss will be entirely on his head as town and he will know why.
I don't even give a fuck if people think that's scummy.
If he doesn't admit to fakeclaiming then:
a) He is VT and afraid of losing us the game due to my stance above---however when we lynch solstice instead we will lose anyway and it will still be his fault.
b) He is actually cop and solstice is scum yay gg.
c) He is scum and ??????????????????????
Somebody replace the ???? for me because all I can come up with is FUCK
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On October 06 2013 12:52 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 12:48 s0Lstice wrote:On October 06 2013 12:44 austinmcc wrote:
This is kinda neat. how in the fuck are you enjoying this : / I've been enjoying this game so far. And now it's crazy speculation and team setup and figuring out who is telling the truth or whether it even matters. And there's this weird half-benefit where if you're ACTUALLY a cop, then you're basically doing what I kept/keep doing when I get blue roles, and I find that kinda neat.
I find it kinda fucking retarded.
Although I must say I am really enjoying this game immensely.
The only thing that could ruin it for me right now isn't even losing. It's losing to a town fakeclaim.
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I think right now we need Koshi to comeback and confirm a few things for us.
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Nah looking through Koshi's filter----would be fucking ingenious scumplay if he faked everything since his claim.
I don't think I've ever seen ingenious scumplay.
Keeping it simple: solstice is scum. End of story.
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On October 06 2013 13:03 austinmcc wrote:
Least believable thing about this whole deal is that WoS would turn down a cocaine-covered Prius.
lol why?
I don't believe anyone would use that on me.
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On October 06 2013 13:06 s0Lstice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2013 13:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nah looking through Koshi's filter----would be fucking ingenious scumplay if he faked everything since his claim.
I don't think I've ever seen ingenious scumplay.
Keeping it simple: solstice is scum. End of story. Koshi is not dumb. Also if he is scum, he has a QT. This is lazy thinking WoS.
Nope.
It's simple thinking.
One thing I have learned from all of my paranoia is that pretty much every damn time the simple answer is the right one.
Occam's Razor ftw.
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On October 06 2013 13:14 s0Lstice wrote:
Whatever, at least when I flip you'll lynch Koshi.
Please don't derp yourselves out of this like I derped the claim situation.
I need a smoke ill brb.
Nope.
Not enough rage.
Gave up too easy.
Man I'm just picturing myself in this scenario and I'd be SO ANGRY
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